WVU 2023 Football schedule is unusual. Open at Penn State and then....

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home to Duquesne and then home to Pitt.
early season couch burning practice game vs. Dukezney. The Pitt date is unusually early. Thought that was some kind of rivalry for the 14 fans of each school?
 

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early season couch burning practice game vs. Dukezney. The Pitt date is unusually early. Thought that was some kind of rivalry for the 14 fans of each school?
A good friend of mine, and Pitt grad, did some calculations based upon size of student body and number of living alumni. Given the large disparity in both between Penn State and Pitt, the attendance for Pitt is about what one would expect. He is also quick to point out the "14 fans", as you say, who show up for Penn State basketball games. To me its no big deal either way. People can spend their hard earned dollars any way they choose.
 
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A good friend of mine, and Pitt grad, did some calculations based upon size of student body and number of living alumni. Given the large disparity in both between Penn State and Pitt, the attendance for Pitt is about what one would expect. He is also quick to point out the "14 fans", as you say, who show up for Penn State basketball games. To me its no big deal either way. People can spend their hard earned dollars any way they choose.
Yet we should play a home and home with Pitt and WVU? Really?
 

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A good friend of mine, and Pitt grad, did some calculations based upon size of student body and number of living alumni. Given the large disparity in both between Penn State and Pitt, the attendance for Pitt is about what one would expect. He is also quick to point out the "14 fans", as you say, who show up for Penn State basketball games. To me its no big deal either way. People can spend their hard earned dollars any way they choose.
Pitt sells out every home game. They just happen to have 50k fans that come dressed as a yellow seat!
 

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I certainly would not suggest that. I have no desire to play either school. I'd much rather play a Texas, or Tennessee, or Clemson.
We have a similar dynamic down here in Carolina @fairgambit

UNC has to play ECU and App and no one can explain how either game helps UNC. It's the lesser programs' super bowl of course. In PSU's case, the economics are unbelievably tilted one way. WVU doesn't spend any money in State College. Why play them? Pitt makes us buy additional tickets to see PSU at Pitt. None of it makes sense for PSU. Let Pitt play WVU and Duquesne and throw in Chatham College (do they have a team?).
 
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Actually, WVU has a pretty rabid fanbase.
I think they spent $49.00 in State College the last time they came into town.

Rabid? holy shiat, maybe they are in Morgantown when they are smashing up stuff but they were scared to travel into State College and spend.
 

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I think they spent $49.00 in State College the last time they came into town.

Rabid? holy shiat, maybe they are in Morgantown when they are smashing up stuff but they were scared to travel into State College and spend.
Before the series ended in 1992 I attended 27 straight Penn State/WVU games, home and away. I can attest to their passion. While I have no desire to resume the series, I always enjoyed my trips to Morgantown and I never had a problem with their fans, home or away. I saw no evidence of their frugality. When I saw them in town they were spending freely.
I might add that in 27 years I only saw 2 losses so that may have colored my view of the "rivalry".
 
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Before the series ended in 1992 I attended 27 straight Penn State/WVU games, home and away. I can attest to their passion. While I have no desire to resume the series, I always enjoyed my trips to Morgantown and I never had a problem with their fans, home or away. I saw no evidence of their frugality. When I saw them in town they were spending freely.
I might add that in 27 years I only saw 2 losses so that may have colored my view of the "rivalry".
Can’t we all just agree that they were a FUN bunch. Frankly if someone is offended by a toothless, drunken, horde of frenzied fanatics. Either in SC or Morgantown then you probably shouldn’t attend college football games.
 

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Can’t we all just agree that they were a FUN bunch. Frankly if someone is offended by a toothless, drunken, horde of frenzied fanatics. Either in SC or Morgantown then you probably shouldn’t attend college football games.
In 40 years of Penn State Season tickets, including over 100 road games, I find most fan bases are pretty much the same. Like us, they are mostly good people, passionate about their school, with some real a*holes mixed in. In many ways over 4 decades, I enjoyed the road trips more than the home games. Only once did I feel threatened, by some drunken Syracuse fans, and I've seen worse by some of our own in Beaver Stadium. Football Saturdays are a diversion from the realities of life, and I think most fans, regardless of school, realize that. At any game, if you want trouble you will likely find it. If you want a good game experience, home or away, it is there for the taking.
 

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In 40 years of Penn State Season tickets, including over 100 road games, I find most fan bases are pretty much the same. Like us, they are mostly good people, passionate about their school, with some real a*holes mixed in. In many ways over 4 decades, I enjoyed the road trips more than the home games. Only once did I feel threatened, by some drunken Syracuse fans, and I've seen worse by some of our own in Beaver Stadium. Football Saturdays are a diversion from the realities of life, and I think most fans, regardless of school, realize that. At any game, if you want trouble you will likely find it. If you want a good game experience, home or away, it is there for the taking.
See we agree on everything. You just phrased it differently.
 

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Most schools schedule two cupcakes to start their season before they play their big OOC game. OTOH, WVU schedules two big OOC games before playing their cupcake.
 
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See we agree on everything. You just phrased it differently.
Well, I'm not on board with the "toothless, drunken" part, but other than that, yes, we agree. I will tell you that I saw some very fine looking women in Morgantown through the years and none were lacking teeth. Also, by my observation, their percentage of drunken fans is about the same as ours.f11091d240dbaa885e17924296d00e9c.jpg
 

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We have a similar dynamic down here in Carolina @fairgambit

UNC has to play ECU and App and no one can explain how either game helps UNC. It's the lesser programs' super bowl of course. In PSU's case, the economics are unbelievably tilted one way. WVU doesn't spend any money in State College. Why play them? Pitt makes us buy additional tickets to see PSU at Pitt. None of it makes sense for PSU. Let Pitt play WVU and Duquesne and throw in Chatham College (do they have a team?).
My ex-wife is a Chatham grad (and UPenn veterinarian). Never thought I'd see the day when Chatham would find its way into a PSU football discourse.
 

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My ex-wife is a Chatham grad (and UPenn veterinarian). Never thought I'd see the day when Chatham would find its way into a PSU football discourse.
I think they run the Wing-T to perfection. Pitt is scared of them. ;)
 

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Makes sense to me. They are going to get beat up in their first game and then then play two city stiffs to recover. Smart scheduling.
I have friends in Morgantown and the consensus there, and nationally, is that West Virgina will struggle to win 6 games in 2023. Pitt will not be one of them.
 

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I have friends in Morgantown and the consensus there, and nationally, is that West Virgina will struggle to win 6 games in 2023. Pitt will not be one of them.
Don't underestimate Narduzzi. He is capable of losing to anyone. He could easily tank against a bad WVU team.
 
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Don't underestimate Narduzzi. He is capable of losing to anyone. He could easily tank against a bad WVU team.
Yes, he can lose to anyone. But he can also beat anyone as he proved in 2016 when he gave National Champion Clemson its only loss and also beat us (#7 in final AP poll).
 

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In 40 years of Penn State Season tickets, including over 100 road games, I find most fan bases are pretty much the same. Like us, they are mostly good people, passionate about their school, with some real a*holes mixed in. In many ways over 4 decades, I enjoyed the road trips more than the home games. Only once did I feel threatened, by some drunken Syracuse fans, and I've seen worse by some of our own in Beaver Stadium. Football Saturdays are a diversion from the realities of life, and I think most fans, regardless of school, realize that. At any game, if you want trouble you will likely find it. If you want a good game experience, home or away, it is there for the taking.
Disagree with a similar amount of PSU games - home and away. PSU fans have a reputation of among the nicest in all of sports.
 

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Disagree with a similar amount of PSU games - home and away. PSU fans have a reputation of among the nicest in all of sports.
Then we shall disagree... agreeably.
Let me add that others also disagree with the "niceness image". Below are a few examples. There are more out there. I'm sure there are also other articles and surveys attesting to our angelic qualities.
I realize writers may have agendas, surveys can be skewed, and I would not say our fans are worse than others. I will continue to maintain, based upon my experience, that we are about the same.



 

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A good friend of mine, and Pitt grad, did some calculations based upon size of student body and number of living alumni. Given the large disparity in both between Penn State and Pitt, the attendance for Pitt is about what one would expect. He is also quick to point out the "14 fans", as you say, who show up for Penn State basketball games. To me its no big deal either way. People can spend their hard earned dollars any way they choose.
Did you point out Fair that Pitt is in the middle of a metropolitan area of 2.2 million residents that is known for its love and passion for football? Compared to State College's metro population....
 
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People can spend their hard earned dollars any way they choose.
I can’t believe that I missed this, and I’m calling BS. You damn well know where you want people to spend their hard earned money. Exclusively on your cheap, poorly made, worthless, overpriced, non returnable and often unsafe dangerous products. Have a rainbow 🌈 day.
 
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Did you point out Fair that Pitt is in the middle of a metropolitan area of 2.2 million residents that is known for its love and passion for football? Compared to State College's metro population....
His counter would likely be that most fans at Penn State games come from outside the State College area. I would then say that shows our alums are more passionate because they are willing to travel a distance to attend games. He might then say that Penn State has 450,000 more living alums than Pitt and more than double the students so percentage wise the crowds are similar. His final argument would be Pitt fans are less enamored of football and more so of opera, ballet, and the symphony. That would be the clincher. ;)
 
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