That’s 2 weeks in a row they have looked absolutely horrific. We just can’t stand around and let that be acceptable. This is the worst defensive line in Miss State Bulldog history. You have to let Lebby be the coach. Nobody gets a pass. that performance was inexcusable. Turner sucks. Let Lebby fire his *** Monday morning. Send that loser packing. Burn it to the ground and let the walk-ons play.
You have to fire the DL coach Monday morning, right?
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I think we've had enough coaching turnover for awhile. We're just gonna have to ride this one out.
Yeah, ain’t nobody gonna work for someone that does that crap.
That is never the right answer. Of course we can't fire him this week. But unless there's some drastic improvement, we probably will need to clean house at least on the defensive side of the coaching staff.
…at the end of the season.
Are you gonna get anyone better if you only give them one season to turn things around?
We knew this defense was gonna be bad, why are we acting like the coaches could magically make them into something they're not?
Did you watch us continue to use 3 down lineman while ASU got 10 yards every play? Or how many of our defensive players were confused multiple times a drive? That is 100% on coaching.
It's a talent issue not a coaching issue.
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No offense, but this is the most insanely ridiculous argument I’ve ever heard. Are you going to get better by keeping bad coaches for 2 or 3 years instead of firing them when you realize your mistake? That thinking is what gave us the 2003 season under Sherrill and 5 long years of Felker & Croom.
It’s a talent issue AND a coaching issue.
Not saying it isn't both, but I think David Turner has done pretty well with D-linemen in the past. Unless you're talking about scheme then maybe I could completely agree with you. But it may look better with better talent. Gonna be hard to sell our D to any portal prospects for next year if we don't figure out how to $pay up$ or get a lot better quickly.
Failed recruiting by the last couple staffs has completely left a void of talent in several spots. RB is the worst I can remember, DL is worse than that. OL isn't far behind those two either and then you've got or injuries and a DC who wants to play a 3 high safety look and not fill up the box when some white kid is hammering us on the ground. It took the team and staff a full half to adjust. Maybe we've gotten that out of our system now but talent is the greatest problem. Our recruiting isn't getting it done at all.
I did and I didn't like it any better than you but I don't think Lebby had a line of experienced coordinators busting down his door for our job. If he cleans house he's not getting any better quality coaches at this point.
Running game on both sides of the ball are going to be an issue, but I think we already knew that. Teams now have a blueprint on us….stop our running game and run it down our throats. How many D linemen did we actually have dressed? Our safety had 17 tackles. Im thinking we were limited in making adjustments by the lack of bodies to throw in on the DL
Negative. It's both. It was obvious in thr 1st quarter that we needed to adjust. We didn't.
I agree that our talent level is very low, but I find it hard to argue that it was simply recruiting when we had so many take the portal out of Starkville.
I think a lot of the DL is just that we aren't very good there. Coaching may be terrible also, but if you have bad players coaching isn't going to make a huge difference.
It's the OL. Sub par talent. Pounders and Minor are not the players that they were promoted to be. They're G5 players.
This type of take is why our fanbase just stays so behind.
There are multiple things that led up to what happened last night, and David Turner is down the list of those things.
There are multiple things that led up to what happened last night, and David Turner is down the list of those things.
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