Your top 5 coaches at State all time
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Well lets start off my (and most everyody else) list by getting Morehead (sp), Croom, Arnett, Lemonis, Rick Ray, and Howland out of contention..........
Babe McCarthy
Allyn McKeen
Ron Polk
Dan Mullen
Jackie Sherrill
Allyn McKeen
Ron Polk
Dan Mullen
Jackie Sherrill
In terms of personal favorites.
Emory (if only for the last 5 games of the 1980 regular season)
Dan (if only for the first 6 games of 2014 and the Gator Bowl win over Michigan)
Ron the FIRST (Thunder and Lightning years)
Jackie (the SEC Championship game and some really fun 17n wins)
Richard (the final four run)
But BABE and McKEEN are still the TOP when it comes to greater and sustained success.
Emory (if only for the last 5 games of the 1980 regular season)
Dan (if only for the first 6 games of 2014 and the Gator Bowl win over Michigan)
Ron the FIRST (Thunder and Lightning years)
Jackie (the SEC Championship game and some really fun 17n wins)
Richard (the final four run)
But BABE and McKEEN are still the TOP when it comes to greater and sustained success.
1. The Kang
2. The Pirate
3. Cousin Eddie (he would be higher if he wasn't always angling to leave)
4. Richard Williams
5. Rick Stansbury (the early years)
2. The Pirate
3. Cousin Eddie (he would be higher if he wasn't always angling to leave)
4. Richard Williams
5. Rick Stansbury (the early years)
I don't know if this is sport specific, but here it goes.
Football only:
1. Jackie Sherrill
2. Allyn McKeen
3. Dan Mullen
4. Bob Tyler
5. Darrell Royal or Emory Bellard
All other sports combination:
1. Babe McCarthy
2. Ron Polk
3. Vic Schaefer
4. Jackie Sherrill
5. Allyn McKeen
Feel free to butcher this up LOL
Football only:
1. Jackie Sherrill
2. Allyn McKeen
3. Dan Mullen
4. Bob Tyler
5. Darrell Royal or Emory Bellard
All other sports combination:
1. Babe McCarthy
2. Ron Polk
3. Vic Schaefer
4. Jackie Sherrill
5. Allyn McKeen
Feel free to butcher this up LOL
Good list - I'd maybe sneak in Richard Williams somewhere. Don't know who I'd replace though.
Babe McCarthy
Ron Polk
Dan Mullen
Vic Schaefer
Chris Lemonis (DS needs posts)
Ron Polk
Dan Mullen
Vic Schaefer
Chris Lemonis (DS needs posts)
Not a lot to argue about on your list, but I wouldn't put Darrell Royal there on his Mississippi State time alone. He was only here for 2 seasons and had 12-8 overall record, a .500 record in the SEC, and wasn't substantially better than the season immediately before and immediately after.
Now, as far as lifetime achievements of coaches that ever coached at State, he'd have to be up there.
Had Ron Greene stayed more than one year, that would have been a really good basketball era.
I understand that completely about his Mississippi State time. He just wasn't here long enough, but when you factor in his lifetime achievements he's up there. I feel like if we would have kept him longer, then we would have seen the fruits of his labor at Mississippi State and not elsewhere.
In no order:
Ron Polk
Jackie Sherrill
Dan Mullen
Vic Schaefer
John Cohen (yall need to separate your minds between Cohen the coach and Cohen the AD)
Ron Polk
Jackie Sherrill
Dan Mullen
Vic Schaefer
John Cohen (yall need to separate your minds between Cohen the coach and Cohen the AD)
His 150-160 record at Murray and Indiana State after he left seems to bring this into question.
1. Dan Mullen
2. Richard Williams
3. Jackie Sherrill
4. Ron Polk
5. Vic Shaefer
Receiving votes - Babe McCarthy, Allyn McKeen, Chris Lemonis, Chris Jans, John Cohen, Rick Stansbury
I need to redo. Forgot about Schaefer.
2. Richard Williams
3. Jackie Sherrill
4. Ron Polk
5. Vic Shaefer
Receiving votes - Babe McCarthy, Allyn McKeen, Chris Lemonis, Chris Jans, John Cohen, Rick Stansbury
I need to redo. Forgot about Schaefer.
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I can't do this without going OT and mentioning Top 5 Maroon Tide Football Coaches.
1. Dodd Lee
2. Calvin Triplett
3. T.D. "Dobie" Holden
4. Cody Stogner
5. B.D. Bagnall
1. Dodd Lee
2. Calvin Triplett
3. T.D. "Dobie" Holden
4. Cody Stogner
5. B.D. Bagnall
Food for thought...
McCarthy's last two seasons at State, just following the 1963 Season of Change, were 9-17 and 10-16. After a terrible season at GW, he did have some nice teams in the ABA before passing too young at 51.
Sherrill, as most here will remember, finished his State tenure with 3-8, 3-9, 2-10 records winning 3 SEC games over those seasons and leaving the program in very rough shape.
McCarthy's last two seasons at State, just following the 1963 Season of Change, were 9-17 and 10-16. After a terrible season at GW, he did have some nice teams in the ABA before passing too young at 51.
Sherrill, as most here will remember, finished his State tenure with 3-8, 3-9, 2-10 records winning 3 SEC games over those seasons and leaving the program in very rough shape.
He left because there was friction between him and Tyler, who was also AD at the time.
1. Babe McCarthy
2. Ally McKeen
3. Ron Polk (grudgingly) - Polk II ruined him for me
4. Vic Schaefer
5. Dan Mullen
2. Ally McKeen
3. Ron Polk (grudgingly) - Polk II ruined him for me
4. Vic Schaefer
5. Dan Mullen
What?!? No Bob Boyd?***
Hard to cut to 5, so going with half a dozen:
McCarthy
Williams
Sherrill
Polk
Mullen
Schaefer
Hard to cut to 5, so going with half a dozen:
McCarthy
Williams
Sherrill
Polk
Mullen
Schaefer
Al Schmidt deserves mention here. Track coach for 25 years.
Won two Natty's at FSU with the women's team before State.
Coached 39 All Americans, 35 SEC Champs and 4 National Champions at State. And is apparently a really good dude.
Won two Natty's at FSU with the women's team before State.
Coached 39 All Americans, 35 SEC Champs and 4 National Champions at State. And is apparently a really good dude.
Shocked to not see cannizaro and cohen on the list, since all credit is given to them for the natty
1. The next coach after this one
2. The next coach after this one
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5. The next coach after this con
Leach (the wit, the wisdom, and a future HOF coach)
Sherrill (taught us we could win)
Vic
Cohen the Coach, not Cohen the AD
Dopey Dan (it was the best of times. it was the worst of times)
Polkie should be on the list but in hindsight he underachieved.
Sherrill (taught us we could win)
Vic
Cohen the Coach, not Cohen the AD
Dopey Dan (it was the best of times. it was the worst of times)
Polkie should be on the list but in hindsight he underachieved.
Lets prime the pump for the 5 worst coming up next after this I would guess:
1) Arnett
2) Morehead
3) Rick Ray
4) Croom
5) Bob Boyd
1) Arnett
2) Morehead
3) Rick Ray
4) Croom
5) Bob Boyd
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