“Kentucky's Will Levis: Backup QB and unnoticed transfer to top NFL draft prospect”
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Absolutely makes too much sense for the "Blame it on Franklin" crowd.
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I like the way you think, you'd make a terrific guidance councilor
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Hi Wade, haven't talked to you in a long time. Do you still reside in Lehman? Daughter on tract to enter college? I wish you and your daughter all of the good luck and success in the world.
Yours, Tom
Great to read from you Tom!
I am well thank you. I mostly stick to the wrestling forums, but do lurk over here from time to time.
Faye is a Sr at LL and will be valedictorian. She committed to the reigning Field Hockey National Champion Northwestern Wildcats!
She just had her helmet repainted..
I am well thank you. I mostly stick to the wrestling forums, but do lurk over here from time to time.
Faye is a Sr at LL and will be valedictorian. She committed to the reigning Field Hockey National Champion Northwestern Wildcats!
She just had her helmet repainted..
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How are you and the family? I miss your gang at the games.
Our fun game against Dr. Frank's crew is Oct 5. I don't expect a LL victory over Sem, but Faye always has a bunch of epic saves against them.
Why does no one take into account improvement can happen? See hurts for example
Great to read from you Tom!
I am well thank you. I mostly stick to the wrestling forums, but do lurk over here from time to time.
Faye is a Sr at LL and will be valedictorian. She committed to the reigning Field Hockey National Champion Northwestern Wildcats!
She just had her helmet repainted..
Sounds wonderful for you and your young Princess....again, all the sucess for you and yours
Tom
Kelly and wife are taking me to Wills Eye Hospital in Philly shortly for a 3pm appointment.
Ultimately, while it could have been nice for Penn State to produce a QB that succeeds in the NFL (IF that ultimately happens), it was more important for Penn State to have a QB with a better chance to succeed on our team. Levis has had his moments at Kentucky, but it doesn't seem like he definitely would have elevated our team if he was our QB.
The quote comparing Levis and Allen reminds me so many other quotes comparing players based on physical attributes. How many guys were built like Dan Marino, had strong arms, and quick releases, but weren't in the same universe when it came to playing the position? A good to very good college RB who weighed 200 lbs and was under 6' tall was like Emmit Smith, except he had nowhere near the talent for the game. I've heard the phrase "he has all the tools" used for too many times when the "tools" in the discussion didn't include the ability to play the sport at the highest level.
I like Will Levis and think he would have done a fine job at PSU. I also think that the issues in his game would have earned him the ire of many PSU fans and those issues will make it difficult for him to live up to the hype in the NFL. On the flip side, if he develops, he'll have a good career. I wish him the best.
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The real question is would the PSU offense last year and this year be better with Levis at QB?
Certainly last year would have been better after Clifford got hurt. But the lack of a run game and iffy OL play impacts both guys.
I don’t know about this year. Levis wouldn’t have won anymore games to date.
Levis is a bad Wentz. Wish him well but...smh. I get that the NFL drafts on physical stature etc. but don't see starting, productive NFL QB with Levis.See the link below. From the article:
”LEXINGTON, Ky. -- Rich Scangarello was sitting in the San Francisco 49ers' team hotel meeting room last season on the eve of their game against the Arizona Cardinals.
The LSU-Kentucky game was on the big-screen TV in the room, and Scangarello and others from the 49ers' organization, including general manager John Lynch and assistant GM Adam Peters, were watching while waiting for meetings to start. Kentucky quarterback Will Levis was putting on a show, throwing for three touchdowns and running for two more in a 42-21 win.
Scangarello, then the 49ers' quarterbacks coach, turned to Peters and said, "Who is this quarterback? He's pretty good. I need to make sure he's on my radar going into the offseason."
Little did Scangarello know the offseason would lead to his hiring as Levis' offensive coordinator at Kentucky, and it didn't take Scangarello long to figure out what kind of talent he was inheriting in Levis, who has gone from a backup at Penn State to one of the NFL's hottest draft commodities seemingly in a flash.
On his Big Board for the 2023 draft, ESPN's Mel Kiper has the 6-foot-3, 235-pound Levis rated as the No. 4 player overall and the No. 2 quarterback behind Ohio State's C.J. Stroud.
One NFL personnel director, who has scouted Levis extensively and seen him live this season, told ESPN he sees a lot of Josh Allen in Levis in terms of arm strength, athletic ability and physical size.”
Will Levis' unexpected path from backup QB and unnoticed transfer to big-time NFL prospect
After going from a run-first backup QB at Penn State to leader of No. 7 Kentucky, Will Levis' next giant leap could be as a top pick in the NFL draft.www.espn.com
F*ck us.
Just saw Mel Kiper's early season CF QB rankings for the next NFL draft on another board and - in order - he has......
1.) CJ Stroud
2.) Will Levis
3.) Bryce Young
Keep in mind, things could change bigtime during the course of the season but right now he's high on Levis
1.) CJ Stroud
2.) Will Levis
3.) Bryce Young
Keep in mind, things could change bigtime during the course of the season but right now he's high on Levis
High praise to have Levis ahead of Young, and also highly questionable.
Will made the move he had to make for himself....and he's doing great. It only hurt PSU when Cliff got hurt at Iowa.
I doubt he's a top 10 draft pick.
I doubt he's a top 10 draft pick.
That is 100% correct. Levis was given starts and playing time while at Penn State but he never demonstrated he was better than Clifford while he was here. Not in my mind. I wish Will all the best at Kentucky and acknowledge he’s doing very well there but I also think he‘s being over hyped. I do not think he has Josh Allen ability.
The counter to that is did the PSU staff tailor its offense and play calls to Will's abilities? And that's a fair question to ask seeing him play well in another system. If there's one recurring question with QB play, it's this staff's ability to modify the system and calls to the talent on hand.
Except Clifford's epically bad pick 6 put the team in the position that Clifford had to orchestrate that great comeback drive. That was probably the best and worst of Clifford in half of a quarter.
What abilities did Josh Allen demonstrate in college that Will Levis has not?
Levis was given minimal reps and not entrusted with PSU's "real" offense while he was here ... he was mostly a runner ... the on-field comparisons aren't particularly fair, in this light. One was deemed the starter, got starter reps, had the offense blended in with his abilities ... and the other was thrust in in an "emergency" situation and not really given the keys to the car. Even then you could see Levis had more natural arm talent, better composure and more athleticism than Clifford, who was already a "seasoned vet" in comparison.
What don't you see in Levis? What did you see in someone like Josh Allen in college that differentiated him from a guy like Levis?
Ah, I saw a beautiful long ball, with "touch." He didn't just launch it ... didn't need to because he had arm strength to spare. That's actually why I'm very high on him ... some guys with big arms just friggin launch the ball and who knows where it's going ... he had shape and direction to his long ball (along with his running ability) that gives me hope that he'll develop the more accurate medium range passing game and decision-making he'll need to succeed in the NFL. With rawer talents, it's always a crapshoot if they'll pop, but the ceiling was definitely WAY up there, and the floor was pretty high.
Was going to post the same thing. Allen is the new poster child for having all the tools come together with pro coaching. Problem is, for every one Josh Allen, there are hundreds of Tim Couches.
I’m watching the Dolphins-Bengals game tonight. How f*cked up is T
osu? They had Joe Burrow, an ohio kid. They chose dwayne haskins as their starter and allowed Burrow to transfer to lsu. We know how that turned out.
Tosu is ridiculous.
osu? They had Joe Burrow, an ohio kid. They chose dwayne haskins as their starter and allowed Burrow to transfer to lsu. We know how that turned out.T
osu is ridiculous.In all fairness to OSU, Burrow broke his hand when battling with Haskins which set him back. It was discussed during the OSU-ND game when the cameras showed Burrow in the stands with 2023 OSU QB commitment - he was recruiting for OSU and still loves the schoolI’m watching the Dolphins-Bengals game tonight. How f*cked up is T
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Yea, I've also read that Burrow visits a few of the OSU practices - he loves that place for some reason. But you are correct about the broken hand setting him back - maybe that's why he holds no ill will against OSU. Besides, Haskins went on to shatter a ton of B1G records in his one year of starting.
My brother is friends with Burrow's father - Jim - from their Nebraska days and the Burrows are all in on OSU. Joe actually graduated from OSU in just 3 years - he's a very smart kid. Well, I guess he's not a kid any more
I hope he does well. I'm having some fun because this place can't go a week without a Will Levis thread. It's predictably used as a club by the "Franklin Always Sucks" crowd. It shouldn't be, because it's possible for both parties to have made the right call, but here we are.
Absolutely! When WL left, it was pretty apparent to most that SC was the better QB. In hindsight, WL appears to have the higher ceiling (injuries haven’t helped SC), but that doesn’t mean that Franklin’s choice was wrong at the time.
I'm pro Will Levis and pro James Franklin. Franklin just made a mistake here. We don't always get everything right, and that's OK. It's possible to support someone, generally, and still disagree with specific stances/decisions. I think with the JoePa worship, this fan base lost sight of that. Heck, nowadays the country as a whole has lost sight of that.
The most impressive thing about Will Levis' development this year is that he's taken a big jump even while: 1. he has a horrendous OL that leaves him running for his life, and 2. he's making a concerted effort to be more of a drop back passer. We all know he can run, but this year he's staying in the pocket (or at least behind the line of scrimmage, once the pocket breaks down) and taking his lumps as his sieve of an OL allows defenders through. And he's still improving in Comp% and YPA.
And he’s played two G5 teams and an FCS team…not exactly murderer’s row. And he’s stayed in the entire game for all of these and throwing TD passes from the one yard line when up by three TD’s. If he was our QB, he’d be getting killed on this board for doing what he’s doing (and he would have gotten killed last year as well).
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