“Native American group calls on Commanders to rename team Redskins: 'Cannot erase history'”

[BobPSU92]

Native American group calls on Commanders to rename team Redskins: 'Cannot erase history'

A Native American group has put the pressure on the Washington Commanders to change its name back to the "Redskins." More than 80,000 have signed their petition.

www.foxnews.com

 

[LionJim]

Just want to point out that changing a team’s name isn’t “erasing history.”

List of Super Bowl champions - Wikipedia

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[BobPSU92]

Just want to point out that changing a team’s name isn’t “erasing history.”

List of Super Bowl champions - Wikipedia

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Certainly true.

 

[Tom_PSU]

I preferred when they were called The Washington Football Team. That didn’t offend anyone except those that actually wanted to watch good football.

 

[AvgUser]

Just want to point out that changing a team’s name isn’t “erasing history.”

List of Super Bowl champions - Wikipedia

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Yes it does erase history.

That’s why we’ve shut down Christoper Columbus
That’s why I have no idea what are Indians and Redskins
Does anyone really know what an Eskimo is these days

OUr minds have been completely whitewashed









Heavy sarcasm here

 

[CVLion]

What have we renamed Christopher Columbus to, to erase him?

Chris Sh*tcity?

 

[Midnighter]

Native American group calls on Commanders to rename team Redskins: 'Cannot erase history'

A Native American group has put the pressure on the Washington Commanders to change its name back to the "Redskins." More than 80,000 have signed their petition.

www.foxnews.com

These folks seem a bit nutty. The biggest issue with 'Redskins' or 'Indians' is that it's too broad in scope - for every Native group (NAGA) who supports the names/logos there are others who don't (National Congress of American Indians). The best way to use a Native name IMO is to be specific (Seminole, Sioux, Apache, etc.) and get an agreement or approval from said Tribe/Nation. I still think some of the best logos in sports were/are Native - Redskins (terrible name, outstanding logo), Illini, Indians (their logo was terrible but their uniforms were terrific). There are still the Blackhawks, Chiefs, and Braves out there too. Either way, I don't see Washington going back to Redskins.

 

[BobPSU92]

These folks seem a bit nutty. The biggest issue with 'Redskins' or 'Indians' is that it's too broad in scope - for every Native group (NAGA) who supports the names/logos there are others who don't (National Congress of American Indians). The best way to use a Native name IMO is to be specific (Seminole, Sioux, Apache, etc.) and get an agreement or approval from said Tribe/Nation. I still think some of the best logos in sports were/are Native - Redskins (terrible name, outstanding logo), Illini, Indians (their logo was terrible but their uniforms were terrific). There are still the Blackhawks, Chiefs, and Braves out there too. Either way, I don't see Washington going back to Redskins.

As an Illinois grad, I miss the Chief.

 

[BW Lion]

I’ve never been comfortable with the “Commander” name.

It seems so authoritarian, perhaps even white elitist in origin

 

[PSUJam]

As an Illinois grad, I miss the Chief.

Eff Illinois.

 

[PSUJam]

Yes it does erase history.

That’s why we’ve shut down Christoper Columbus
That’s why I have no idea what are Indians and Redskins
Does anyone really know what an Eskimo is these days

OUr minds have been completely whitewashed









Heavy sarcasm here

I had a Native American studies class my senior year at PSU. I remember much more from that class than I do from classes for my major.

 

[manatree]

Still think that they should have gone with the Beltway Bandits.

 

[LionJim]

I had a Native American studies class my senior year at PSU. I remember much more from that class than I do from classes for my major.

Funny how that works. My own favorite class at Penn State was Organic Chem. I failed it the first time (goofed off) then buckled down and really got into it.

 

[Bison13]

Funny how that works. My own favorite class at Penn State was Organic Chem. I failed it the first time (goofed off) then buckled down and really got into it.

On a similar note for me, I remember all my friends telling me how much harder OChem was compared to regular Chem. I barely got a C in Chem (lazy/slacked off as a 1st semester fresh) and then got an A in Ochem and was tutoring kids in my class.

 

[PSUJam]

Funny how that works. My own favorite class at Penn State was Organic Chem. I failed it the first time (goofed off) then buckled down and really got into it.

Historically, there was a heavy Native American presence in the area where I grew up and we would find arrowheads while farming every so often. That drew my interest as a kid and sparked a curiosity to take the class as an elective.

 

[LionJim]

Historically, there was a heavy Native American presence in the area where I grew up and we would find arrowheads while farming every so often. That drew my interest as a kid and sparked a curiosity to take the class as an elective.

Oh, yeah, Lenape tribe in my area. Neshaminy is a Native word.

Neshaminy Creek - Wikipedia

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[Nitt1300]

As long as they continue to lose to the Eagles, I don't care what they call themselves.

 

[manatree]

I had a Native American studies class my senior year at PSU. I remember much more from that class than I do from classes for my major.

Did your class touch on the local Tudek Site or Houserville Site? I believe most of the actual site research was done in the 70s & 80s. The Tudek site is wedged in between football parking fields and the Houserville site is just down the road.

 

[PSUJam]

Did your class touch on the local Tudek Site or Houserville Site? I believe most of the actual site research was done in the 70s & 80s. The Tudek site is wedged in between football parking fields and the Houserville site is just down the road.

Not sure? As I said it was my senior year so I called off drunk a lot and went to the Cafe or Skeller for a liquid lunch.

 

[psuro]

Sure we can erase history. We can also re-write history to fit our needs. We should write how naming the team The Redskins was "good for them and gave them something to be proud of."

 

[leinbacker]

These folks seem a bit nutty. The biggest issue with 'Redskins' or 'Indians' is that it's too broad in scope - for every Native group (NAGA) who supports the names/logos there are others who don't (National Congress of American Indians). The best way to use a Native name IMO is to be specific (Seminole, Sioux, Apache, etc.) and get an agreement or approval from said Tribe/Nation. I still think some of the best logos in sports were/are Native - Redskins (terrible name, outstanding logo), Illini, Indians (their logo was terrible but their uniforms were terrific). There are still the Blackhawks, Chiefs, and Braves out there too. Either way, I don't see Washington going back to Redskins.

Do the Irish approve of Notre Dame mocking them as aggressive little white people?

 

[leinbacker]

I’ve never been comfortable with the “Commander” name.

It seems so authoritarian, perhaps even white elitist in origin

They should have called them Rear Admiral Lower Halves.

 

[Midnighter]

Do the Irish approve of Notre Dame mocking them as aggressive little white people?

All Irish? Dunno. Me? Sure.

 

[psu31trap]

Since a petition was initiated to reinstate the Redskin name to Washington can they piggyback Cleveland on this same petition? Please drop the painful and ever so unpopular name "Guardians" as I believe the people of Cleveland have suffered enough. Bring back to the Cleveland Indians (minus the logo).

 

[Nitt1300]

Since a petition was initiated to reinstate the Redskin name to Washington can they piggyback Cleveland on this same petition? Please drop the painful and ever so unpopular name "Guardians" as I believe the people of Cleveland have suffered enough. Bring back to the Cleveland Indians (minus the logo).

Until they straighten out the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the people of Cleveland have NOT suffered nearly enough.

 

[ApexLion]

I had a class in Native American chemistry but don't remember much.

 

[Woodpecker]

I had a class in Native American chemistry but don't remember much.

 

[SurgeOne]

On a similar note for me, I remember all my friends telling me how much harder OChem was compared to regular Chem. I barely got a C in Chem (lazy/slacked off as a 1st semester fresh) and then got an A in Ochem and was tutoring kids in my class.

OChem is a subject that either really clicks or is a complete miss. Not many in the middle

 

[Grant Green]

Do the Irish approve of Notre Dame mocking them as aggressive little white people?

If they were the notre dame drunk Irish, Micks, potatoe eaters, etc, then probably not.

 

[LionJim]

If they were the notre dame drunk Irish, Micks, potatoe eaters, etc, then probably not.

I guess there’s a reason there aren’t any professional sports teams named the Dead Rabbits.

 

[Grant Green]

I guess there’s a reason there aren’t any professional sports teams named the Dead Rabbits.

No but that's a great band name!
Ooh, and the Plug Uglies too.

 

[Nits1989]

This is an interesting twist. If there’s support for it, go back to the iconic name. Did Native Americans demand that they change the name, or was it some woke people?

 

[troutrus]

My dad used to tell us that the Eagles were originally called the Frankford Yellow Jackets, and how bunches of people were pissed about the name change to Eagles.
Turns out that wasn’t the case, but if they had kept the same name they could have claimed the 1926 NFL Championship.

Frankford Yellow Jackets - Wikipedia

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[Train027]

Just want to point out that changing a team’s name isn’t “erasing history.”

List of Super Bowl champions - Wikipedia

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Removing all references to George Preston Marshall is erasing history. Orwell called it becoming an unperson.

 

[LionJim]

Marshall is in the Hall of Fame.

George Preston Marshall - Wikipedia

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[leinbacker]

Just want to point out that changing a team’s name isn’t “erasing history.”

List of Super Bowl champions - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Where is Jim Brown on this list?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/career-rushing.htm

 

[LionJim]

Where is Jim Brown on this list?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/career-rushing.htm

The New Browns were granted custody of the Old Browns records.

 

[troutrus]

Seems the Commander name is treating them well at this point in time.
First in NFC East

NFC East	W	L	T	Pct
Washington	1	0	0	1.000
Philadelphia	0	1	0	.000
Dallas	0	1	0	.000
NY Giants	0	1	0	.000

 

[LionJim]

Seems the Commander name is treating them well at this point in time.
First in NFC East

NFC East	W	L	T	Pct
Washington	1	0	0	1.000
Philadelphia	0	1	0	.000
Dallas	0	1	0	.000
NY Giants	0	1	0	.000

Lol, it’s not the name, it’s Danny Snyder the ******* ******* selling the team.

I don’t know just how well the non-WFT fans understand this: Dan Snyder is a ******* *******, a truly horrible person, a total POS.

 

[leinbacker]

The New Browns were granted custody of the Old Browns records.

So history wasn’t deleted, just changed.