Yes, it’s not an ideal situation for university leadership, but the upside is that policymakers are now paying attention to the cost of tuition and trying to do something about it. It will be absolutely back breaking to try to unravel years of building a bloated administrative structure at PSU but it needs to start somewhere. Ironically, those same legislators will cry bloody murder if PSU tries to close a branch campus in their district.
“Penn State president pledges accountability, urges lawmakers to approve 2023-24 funding | Opinion” (Neeli opinion piece)
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I've think you're on to something. A process of "loaning" money to students for specific colleges/majors and offering loan forgiveness similar to those that are offered to students who work for public entities could be worked out for those who live and work in PA. Lots of details would need to be worked out but it could be done. I also think you could leverage this type of package to attract the best and brightest high school students, particularly out-of-state students.. The number of years required to live and work in PA would have to carefully chosen in order to get benefits, but I think this would be successful.
Many States already have programs similar to what you suggest but rather than loan forgiveness, they offer scholarships to, for example, the top 5% of high school grads to attend state universities (and you could add on major in high demand occupations). This wouldn’t help with respect to where they accept employment naturally but often employers locate where the talent is located, at least over the long term.
Performance based could be achieving diversity goals and not making education better or more affordable.
And the money from that comes from where? The state. It would have to be done for every state school. Carved out of PSU's appropriation? Don;t imagine the administration would be happy with that.
PSU will accept money from anyone. Diversity and inclusion.
Read it again. It absolutely will include "DEIB"
No one knows what the final "dashboard" will look like, and where any emphasis may lie (my guess would be a heavy emphasis on the gaslighting, but time will tell) - but dollars-to-dimes DEIB metrics will be a significant component.
Those are the metrics Neely mentions have been put in place in other states and are part of the model she is proposing. What I am saying is that the controller of the money — the Pennsylvania General Assembly — is most concerned about fiscal responsibility and controlling tuition.
Though, personally, I wouldn't even want to venture a guess as to what the folks in Harrisburg are most concerned about (and there may not be a consensus). I would hope a significant emphasis would be on the items you mention (and I think it should be, and maybe it is) - but I would hesitate before betting the mortgage money on it.
All Penn Staters encouraged to speak up in support of University's state funding
”UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Penn State’s Office of Government and Community Relations is encouraging all Penn Staters to speak up and voice support Penn State’s 2023-24 state appropriation, which is now more than three months past due.
The advocacy campaign through Advocate Penn State urges support for the 7.1% funding increase proposed by Gov. Josh Shapiro in his inaugural budget. The increase would be Penn State’s first increase in state funding since a 2% bump in 2019-20.
All Penn Staters are encouraged to go to advocate.psu.edu to participate in the most recent advocacy campaign to show support for state funding, which allows the University to offer a significant in-state tuition discount to more than 42,000 Pennsylvania resident Penn State students.
Advocate now!“
”UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Penn State’s Office of Government and Community Relations is encouraging all Penn Staters to speak up and voice support Penn State’s 2023-24 state appropriation, which is now more than three months past due.
The advocacy campaign through Advocate Penn State urges support for the 7.1% funding increase proposed by Gov. Josh Shapiro in his inaugural budget. The increase would be Penn State’s first increase in state funding since a 2% bump in 2019-20.
All Penn Staters are encouraged to go to advocate.psu.edu to participate in the most recent advocacy campaign to show support for state funding, which allows the University to offer a significant in-state tuition discount to more than 42,000 Pennsylvania resident Penn State students.
Advocate now!“
That effort was launched a while ago. Either PSU didn't get the response it hoped for or it ain't working.
don't be silly- it will be entirely smoke, mirrors, and spin
Honestly though, we deserve to be burned down again. The football team is winning too many games, the basketball team is starting to be competitive. I hate us.
Of course! Nothing bad can happen with that.
It has ceased to be a state university. That is the issue. Start there and then look at the issues facing this university. At 39 percent from out of state/international at University Park, it’s clear that we tied the university to out of state tuition while asking the PA legislature for more money. Here at UNC, the school has 16,500 undergrads and it’s a state mandated population that cannot go below a 81% in-state student population. Contrast that with the bloat and quiet corruption at PSU not to mention tuition at 2x or more than UNC.
OBVIOUSLY.
, unc does not share PSU’s commitment to DEIB. Therefore, PSU laughs at unc.Spot on, sir. Sadly the PSU apologists on here won't acknowledge these facts, they just expect the state to write bigger checks.
PSU is state-related. I don’t know if that limits PA’s oversight. Does PA mandate a percentage in-state student population for schools in the state system?
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Yes, being a "state-related" does limit the amount of control the Commonwealth exercises over PSU. How that differs from a state (owned) school is complicated and varies from state to state. Basically, if Harrisburg wants something from PSU (control, information, etc). and PSU doesn't want to provide it, it can tell Harrisburg to pound sand (which it has done). The only leverage Harrisburg has is the amount of the state appropriation and so we find ourselves where we are.
I figured as much. Penn State needs that wiggle room.
Presumably, schools in the state systems can’t wiggle.
And it pays a steep price for that wiggle room.I figured as much. Penn State needs that wiggle room.
Presumably, schools in the state systems can’t wiggle.
The People's Republic of Chapel Hill laughs at PSU's DEIB press releases. Trust me. We have a little petrie dish down here where we continually try social engineering each week. While a nuisance, its tried with less bluster and press releases than Neeli's regime.OBVIOUSLY.
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