“Purpose, agility, opportunity: President Bendapudi shares vision for Penn State”

PSU Mike

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So it’s wrong for the flagship state university to attempt to become more diverse in its recruitment of students and faculty to more adequately reflect the population of the citizens of Pennsylvania? They’re not all white suburban heterosexual Christians.
Not with that attitude …
 

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And don’t force a more diverse university community (students and staff) to achieve arbitrary metrics. Student admissions and hiring should still be merit-based.
Of course - don’t assume that gay people are less qualified than straight people. Why would you? Or that Hindus are less qualified than Baptists? Sheesh….there are a lot of racist undercurrents being expressed here. DEI has absolutely nothing to do with lowering standards. Penn State’s student body and employees should reflect the population of all of the people of Pennsylvania, plain and simple.
 
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See the link below. From the article:

“Vision includes focus on student success; research excellence; land-grant impact; diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging; and internal operations; presidential vision and goals will support framework for University's next strategic plan”

”UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi today (Feb. 27) shared her vision for the future of the University — a vision defined by building steadfastly on Penn State’s purpose, enabling agility across the institution to respond to ever-changing needs, and leveraging the University’s many strengths to realize strategic opportunities.

“Focusing on our purpose, increasing our agility and leveraging our opportunity will be the core drivers of the future of our great University,” Bendapudi said. “We must build on our legacy as Pennsylvania’s only land-grant university and our foundational purpose of serving our commonwealth, our nation and our world. We must be agile to meet the needs of our students, an evolving workforce, the commonwealth and, indeed, humanity. We must rise to meet the opportunities before us, to continue preparing our students for lifelong success, to continue solving the world’s most pressing problems through cutting-edge research, and to continue living our 21st-century land-grant mission.”

Using these as her guiding principles, Bendapudi has identified five key goals for the University to work toward over the next five academic years:


  • Enhance student success
  • Grow interdisciplinary research excellence
  • Increase land-grant impact
  • Foster diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging
  • Transform Penn State’s internal operations“


We’re screwed. 😞
What is student success? Graduating with a degree in a low demand field and tons of debt?

Re: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.... I believe in equal opportunity and I like seeing a diverse student body. That said I'm a lot more concerned about preparing students for the workforce in fields with high demand. I care a lot more about my doctor being competent than I do about their sexual preference or skin color. I think our priorities are out of whack.
 
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What is student success? Graduating with a degree in a low demand field and tons of debt?

Re: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.... I believe in equal opportunity and I like seeing a diverse student body. That said I'm a lit more concerned about preparing students for the workforce in fields with high demand. I care a lot more about my doctor being competent than I do about their sexual preference or skin color. I think our priorities are out of whack.

Penn State laughs at competence.
 
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Of course - don’t assume that gay people are less qualified than straight people. Why would you? Or that Hindus are less qualified than Baptists? Sheesh….there are a lot of racist undercurrents being expressed here. DEI has absolutely nothing to do with lowering standards. Penn State’s student body and employees should reflect the population of all of the people of Pennsylvania, plain and simple.

Actually PSU made the argument that DEI leads to lower standards. I doubt they even realized how racist, and I do mean truly racist, their statement was. So your statement is simply wrong.
 
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DEI has absolutely nothing to do with lowering standards. Penn State’s student body and employees should reflect the population of all of the people of Pennsylvania, plain and simple.
Sadly I think you're wrong. That's exactly what you're doing when you eliminate things like standardized tests and fill positions based on DEI instead of competence.
 

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Sadly I think you're wrong. That's exactly what you're doing when you eliminate things like standardized tests and fill positions based on DEI instead of competence.
I never said they should be filled instead of competence. That’s where you’re wrong. That’s a misconception of DEI. Competent minorities of ALL types should be included. It’s a public university. Are you assuming that standards for minorities need to be lower? Why? Which minorities? Blacks? Gays? Indians? Catholics? West Virginians? Well maybe West Virginians….
 
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Of course - don’t assume that gay people are less qualified than straight people. Why would you? Or that Hindus are less qualified than Baptists? Sheesh….there are a lot of racist undercurrents being expressed here. DEI has absolutely nothing to do with lowering standards. Penn State’s student body and employees should reflect the population of all of the people of Pennsylvania, plain and simple.
Define “reflect.”
 
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Of course - don’t assume that gay people are less qualified than straight people. Why would you? Or that Hindus are less qualified than Baptists? Sheesh….there are a lot of racist undercurrents being expressed here. DEI has absolutely nothing to do with lowering standards. Penn State’s student body and employees should reflect the population of all of the people of Pennsylvania, plain and simple.
So does your formula wrt the student body apply to the 40+% who are out-of-state?
 

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More DEIBs paying out-of-state tuition. Win-win!
Let me get this straight, Bob. PSU admits under-represented minorities from out of state so that their proportion of the entire student body equates to that of Pennsylvania. Do I have that right? Since something similar works for automobiles, I guess it will work in this case.
 

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Let me get this straight, Bob. PSU admits under-represented minorities from out of state so that their proportion of the entire student body equates to that of Pennsylvania. Do I have that right? Since something similar works for automobiles, I guess it will work in this case.

Something like that. As long as the underrepresented (and people who look like them) can pay, they’re in. Check the DEIB box and fill the coffers. Win-win.
 

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Let's see. On one side there are those who believe that race should not be a factor in admissions decisions. On the other there are those who beleive that it should be. On which side are the racists? Don't bother responding; we already know your answer.
Don’t tell me what to do racist. Aren’t you late for your KKK meeting?
 

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1. If you force DEIB for the sake of achieving certain metrics (visible and for appearances), you likely will increase your DEIB make-up. However, when admissions and hiring practices are so heavily focused on DEIB, you may not get the best talents.

2. If you don’t force DEIB, and you focus on merit above all, then you may get the best talents but may not increase your DEIB make-up. Then you are characterized as not focusing on DEIB, possibly as being anti-DEIB, and likely as being racist.

Society today more than ever judges by appearances. We have to visibly support DEIB, which means we have to force it, which means it has be as important as or more important than merit. We must get the DEIB numbers up for the dashboard. Merit is secondary. Is this how a university should function?
 

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Zero about out of control tuition costs and an ever growing bloated administration.
Agreed - but then again we all know tuition as well as room & board will continue to have yearly increases over this time span and through eternity for that matter.
 

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1. If you force DEIB for the sake of achieving certain metrics (visible and for appearances), you likely will increase your DEIB make-up. However, when admissions and hiring practices are so heavily focused on DEIB, you may not get the best talents.

2. If you don’t force DEIB, and you focus on merit above all, then you may get the best talents but may not increase your DEIB make-up. Then you are characterized as not focusing on DEIB, possibly as being anti-DEIB, and likely as being racist.

Society today more than ever judges by appearances. We have to visibly support DEIB, which means we have to force it, which means it has be as important as or more important than merit. We must get the DEIB numbers up for the dashboard. Merit is secondary. Is this how a university should function?
You're getting close, Bob, but step back a second. Is there an objective, beyond improving metrics, of all of these DEIB initiatives?
 

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Don’t tell me what to do racist. Aren’t you late for your KKK meeting?

"...the U.S. News rankings undermine these efforts by deploying a methodology that functions to exclude minoritized communities from gaining access to and participating in legal education and the profession, among other negative impacts."

Talk about real racism.
 

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"...the U.S. News rankings undermine these efforts by deploying a methodology that functions to exclude minoritized communities from gaining access to and participating in legal education and the profession, among other negative impacts."

Talk about real racism.
There is plenty of it- on both sides of the political spectrum. But not every attempt to correct the errors of the past is racism.
 

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Enhance student success <----- is this finally a goal, or a spit shine?
Grow interdisciplinary research excellence <------ an upgrade from mediocrity?
Increase land-grant impact <------ I guess I'll have to read it to understand
Foster diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging <------ "We Are" 'woke'
Transform Penn State’s internal operations“ <--------- If this means the BOT---- yeeeaaaah!
Wondering if the “woke” agenda includes football and basketball recruiting??? Hmmm. She has to say that to get her research money from the Fed. It’s mandatory.
 

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So it’s wrong for the flagship state university to attempt to become more diverse in its recruitment of students and faculty to more adequately reflect the population of the citizens of Pennsylvania? They’re not all white suburban heterosexual Christians.
Doesn’t apply to football recruiting but that’s not her objective. What’s Krafty say.
 

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There is plenty of it- on both sides of the political spectrum. But not every attempt to correct the errors of the past is racism.
It's not racism. But if the leaders of our institutions of higher learning believe that these efforts are major contributions to address the race problem in the US, they are seriously delusional.... but it wouldn't be the first time.
 
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There is plenty of it- on both sides of the political spectrum. But not every attempt to correct the errors of the past is racism.

I didn't say anything about politics. PSU's statement that DEIB is leading to lower rankings and/or is incompatible with high rankings is the real problem as it maligns everyone who makes up those groups. It is tremendously condescending to them, and yes, racist in its view of their abilities.
 
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I don’t know the answer to this but perhaps someone has the actual data. It would be interesting to see the academic rankings of the Big10 schools according to the percentage of non white students. And also to see the rankings specifically identifying the percentage of black students. Perhaps Barry has some data he can correlate to enlighten us about whether increasing minority enrollment decreases academic standards as some seem to feel it could.
 
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I don’t know the answer to this but perhaps someone has the actual data. It would be interesting to see the academic rankings of the Big10 schools according to the percentage of non white students. And also to see the rankings specifically identifying the percentage of black students. Perhaps Barry has some data he can correlate to enlighten us about whether increasing minority enrollment decreases academic standards as some seem to feel it could.

If by some you mean yourself and psu leadership then you are spot on. Woodrow Wilson would be proud of you.
 

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Among the 14 Big Ten Universities, ten have seen a decline in the percentage of Black degree-seeking undergraduate students. They are:

……Michigan State University, from 8.88% in 2002 to 7.67% in 2021.
  • Northwestern University, from 6.04% in 2002 to 5.90% in 2021.
  • Ohio State University, from 8.09% in 2003 to 7.16% in 2021.
  • Pennsylvania State University, from 4.11% in 2003 to 4.09% in 2021.
  • Purdue University, from 3.60% in 2008 to 2.6% in 2021.
  • Rutgers University, from 8.23% in 2002 to 6.48% in 2021.
  • University of Illinois, from 7.56% in 2004 to 6.42% in 2021.
  • University of Maryland, from 13.01% in 2008 to 11.77% in 2021.
  • University of Michigan, from 7.83% in 2002 to 3.99% in 2021.
  • University of Wisconsin, from 2.18% in 2002 to 2.03% in 2021.


Four universities - Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Michigan - saw a decrease in the absolute number of Black undergraduates pursuing degrees at their schools during this period.

Among the four universities (Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota and Nebraska) experiencing a percentage gain in Black undergraduates, only the University of Minnesota saw a substantial increase, adding 744 Black students over the 20 years, increasing their percentage of undergraduates from 3.96% in 2002 to 5.95% in 2021.

Most of the increases in minority enrollments have been attributed to Latino students.
 

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Tied to Penn State’s strategery:

”UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — As part of a data-driven and holistic approach to fostering greater diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB) across the University, Penn State has launched a new DEIB dashboard that tracks metrics related to DEIB across the University.

This new tool supports Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi’s goal to enhance DEIB across the University through a metrics-driven strategy focused on improving DEIB-related outcomes, especially for Penn Staters from underrepresented or historically marginalized groups, in an accountable and demonstrable way. Advancing DEIB across Penn State is one of Bendapudi’s five central goals as part of her vision for the University, which outlines steps and metrics for determining success.“



For f*ck’s sake.

so now DEI is DEIB? How long until more letters are added?
 

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So I was was raised in a Russian Orthodox religion and now a single father raising two teenagers on my own. I have MANY hispanic friends and I work with everyone with MBA's.
Soo . . . I'm thinking: DEIBLTQORSFRCHMBA
 
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