2022 CWS changing up the starting and ending days …

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

this year vs years past.
Will start on Friday/Saturday vs Saturday/Sunday for opening rounds and start the Championship series on Saturday with potential to end on a Monday vs Wednesday.

 

[MSUDC11]

As a fan I like it, but I do wonder what the coaches think . The days off under the previous format could be a huge equalizer, with this new schedule your chances of coming back to win through the losers bracket are DRASTICALLY diminished.

Take Ole Miss/Auburn for example. The loser of the game would have to play Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday (and win each game) just to make the Finals with a totally depleted pitching staff.

Starting 2-0 seems more important than ever with this schedule.

 

[patdog]

I'm sure the coaches loved the crutch of multiple days off. This is a much better format.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

I'm sure the coaches loved the crutch of multiple days off. This is a much better format.

I disagree.
Having some days off somewhat similar to the MLB WS is the way to determine an absolute a true Champion as can be.
This new format - better have a All Star BPen!!
Not a Fan !

 

[onewoof]

Vegas taking odds on # of UCL injuries

 

[patdog]

They do need to add a day off before the championship series. In MLB, World Series teams play up to 7 games in 9 days. In the current CWS, a team could play 8 games in 9 days if they're in the bracket that starts late. Add a day off and that's 8 games in 10 days, which is about right.

 

[GTAdawg]

For what it’s worth, Cohen was a big supporter of the condensed schedule. Lobbied for it.

 

[missouridawg]

Had the condensed schedule happened last year, would we have have even won the CWS?

I don't think Bednar gets 3 starts, which is the main reason we won.

 

[dawgstudent]

Someone with a better baseball mind than me explain the regionals and CWS to me - you setup a team all year to play best 2 out of 3 but when you get to regionals and the CWS - you have to have more arms than any other time of the year.

I wish there was a way to make it work where your roster can be used like it has all year.

 

[MSUDC11]

Someone with a better baseball mind than me explain the regionals and CWS to me - you setup a team all year to play best 2 out of 3 but when you get to regionals and the CWS - you have to have more arms than any other time of the year.

I wish there was a way to make it work where your roster can be used like it has all year.

I’m not sure what can be done about the CWS but I know there are supporters for making the Regionals two weekends. Basically instead of 16 hosts you’d have 32. 1 seeds host 4 seeds and 2 seeds host 3 seeds, best of 3 series, winners play each other in another best of 3 series, then you move onto the Super Regionals where the format is the same as it is now from there on.

 

[Smoked Toag]

I'm sure the coaches loved the crutch of multiple days off. This is a much better format.

Agree. It's closer to mirroring the season and regionals. I didn't like teams being able to ride a pitcher to a title (which is kinda what we did too).

 

[Smoked Toag]

Someone with a better baseball mind than me explain the regionals and CWS to me - you setup a team all year to play best 2 out of 3 but when you get to regionals and the CWS - you have to have more arms than any other time of the year.

I wish there was a way to make it work where your roster can be used like it has all year.

Not necessarily.....you play weekday games, so generally up to 5 games in a week. I don't mind a mix.

 

[8dog]

I love this format. It tests teams in different ways, forces them to strategize pitching decisions and creates parity while still giving teams that did well in the regular season and advantage and for the most part encouraging them to play hard all year. They have discussed in the past 3 straight weekends of 3 games series to set the Omaha field. But that taxes your starters another weekend, requires schools to host more games, and requires an extra weekend of a season that already has calendar issues.

 

[patdog]

Regional play absolutely needs to be broken up into 2 rounds. Too many games in too short a time. Teams are being pressured to bring pitchers back on 2 days rest.

 

[ronpolk]

Agree. It's closer to mirroring the season and regionals. I didn't like teams being able to ride a pitcher to a title (which is kinda what we did too).

That’s true but the flip side is you get down to the title and instead of having Bednar vs Rocker (2 1st round talents) for the national championship, you get 2 guys nobody knows. I can understand wanting to condense the schedule but I like the rest because it gives both teams the ability to put the best pitchers on the mound.

 

[Smoked Toag]

Regional play absolutely needs to be broken up into 2 rounds. Too many games in too short a time. Teams are being pressured to bring pitchers back on 2 days rest.

Well they should be developing them in the midweek. The max games you can play in a regional loser's bracket is 5. No reason you can't develop that during the year. 4 should be minimum. We should move the beginning of the season back (to help northern teams) and require everyone play Tuesday and Wednesday games.

College pitching coaches really are the absolute worst. They do zero development.

 

[Smoked Toag]

That’s true but the flip side is you get down to the title and instead of having Bednar vs Rocker (2 1st round talents) for the national championship, you get 2 guys nobody knows. I can understand wanting to condense the schedule but I like the rest because it gives both teams the ability to put the best pitchers on the mound.

Theoretically your aces should go in the opening rounds, then again in the championship series if you get there, rather than 3 times like Bednar and Rocker did. That would fix that. But of course, I'm not naive, and realize these coaches are still going to try and use them 3 times in this condensed format too.

They need to institute pitch count rules or something, and days rest based on number of pitches. MLB has the charts, not sure why it's not used at all levels of baseball.

 

[8dog]

Which would kill some of the interest. So much fun to watch a 4 push a 1 seed. That would be gone.

 

[patdog]

5 games in 4 days is ridiculous. MLB never plays more then 3 games in 4 days in their postseason and they carry 12 quality pitchers on their staffs.

 

[MSUDC11]

That’s true but the flip side is you get down to the title and instead of having Bednar vs Rocker (2 1st round talents) for the national championship, you get 2 guys nobody knows. I can understand wanting to condense the schedule but I like the rest because it gives both teams the ability to put the best pitchers on the mound.

To be fair, we only got Rocker vs Bednar because it went to a Game 3. We could have won or lost in two games without ever getting to throw Bednar. Game 2 was one of those “guys nobody knows” games with Houston Harding vs Christian Little.

 

[8dog]

Yes. It’s supposed to be harder if you go to the loser’s bracket. Plus college baseball has a larger roster.

 

[patdog]

College baseball has only 11.7 scholarship players. And you're asking them to play a schedule even MLB doesn't come close to in the postseason. It's pretty stupid, and dangerous to pitchers arms.

 

[Smoked Toag]

College baseball has only 11.7 scholarship players. And you're asking them to play a schedule even MLB doesn't come close to in the postseason. It's pretty stupid, and dangerous to pitchers arms.

Institute pitching limits. Problem solved.

 

[Smoked Toag]

Which would kill some of the interest. So much fun to watch a 4 push a 1 seed. That would be gone.

Why? Not following here.....do you mean in the regional final?

 

[8dog]

The 11.7 is irrelevant. Its one weekend. Its not that big of a deal. Plus only 16 of the teams MAY have to play 5 in 4.

Edited: they would still have a postseason roster limit. Not sure what that is exactly.

 

[8dog]

No. In the opening game of a regional. 4s push 1s all the time and make things so interesting (see the 2018 Tally regional and 2014 Lafayette) I think that would be gone if the bottom 16 teams now had to beat them in a 3 game series. But as set out above there are other issues with 3 rounds of 3 games series.

 

[Smoked Toag]

No. In the opening game of a regional. 4s push 1s all the time and make things so interesting (see the 2018 Tally regional and 2014 Lafayette) I think that would be gone if the bottom 16 teams now had to beat them in a 3 game series. But as set out above there are other issues with 3 rounds of 3 games series.

Oh OK I gotcha. We actually agree. Think maybe there was a reply to the wrong post in there somewhere.

 

[bddawg]

5 games in 4 days is ridiculous. MLB never plays more then 3 games in 4 days in their postseason and they carry 12 quality pitchers on their staffs.

Are talking about omaha? Nobody has to play 5 games In 4 days. It's possible to play 4 games in 5 days.

 

[patdog]

In the regionals. Not Omaha. A team coming out of the losers bracket has to play 5 games in 4 days.