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From the below list, the players that Howie needs to resign:

- Zack Braun
- Milton Williams
- Mekhi Becton

I'm on the fence about Josh Sweat. He's not super productive, but the flip side is we don't have a lot of depth at DE.

I hope they can resign Kenny Gainwell. It's tough to be a backup to Saquon, but the Birds used him a good bit, and he seemed to thrive in that situation.

Rick Lovato is well regarded as the LS. I guess it's a matter of what they can fit in as to whether they can re-sign him.

Oren Burks did an excellent job in relief of Nakobi Dean. And Dean, by tearing a ligament in the first round of the playoffs, may not be ready to go at the start of next season. In that context, I hope they can resign him, but he's not as high a priority as the others I've listed.

Avocet Maddox had a huge play in the Super Bowl. And he seems to have adjusted well from going to the starting slot CB to being a backup. I guess it's a combination of $$ and whether he wants to find a starting roll, as to whether or not they can bring him back.

@s1uggo72: your thoughts on the backup OL guys?

 
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From the below list, the players that Howie needs to resign:

- Zack Braun
- Milton Williams
- Mekhi Becton

I'm on the fence about Josh Sweat. He's not super productive, but the flip side is we don't have a lot of depth at DE.

I hope they can resign Kenny Gainwell. It's tough to be a backup to Saquon, but the Birds used him a good bit, and he seemed to thrive in that situation.

Rick Lovato is well regarded as the LS. I guess it's a matter of what they can fit in as to whether they can re-sign him.

Oren Burks did an excellent job in relief of Nakobi Dean. And Dean, by tearing a ligament in the first round of the playoffs, may not be ready to go at the start of next season. In that context, I hope they can resign him, but he's not as high a priority as the others I've listed.

Avocet Maddox had a huge play in the Super Bowl. And he seems to have adjusted well from going to the starting slot CB to being a backup. I guess it's a combination of $$ and whether he wants to find a starting roll, as to whether or not they can bring him back.

@s1uggo72: your thoughts on the backup OL guys?


well imo the guy with the least leverage of that group is Becton. Tyler Skeen is ready to go, I even think Jake Driscoll could start at RG. So imo hes not make or break, I'd rather see them take that money to sign Milton Williams. That said I think he knows what is out there, and if anyone is taking a home town discount, it would be him. I think Fred Johnson is probably the top reserve and played well for both Lane and Malita when they were out. I think Fred knows what is out there too, and likes being in the league. I think Fred though would be an upgrade for who's in KC or Cinncy. I think the rest of guy will sign team friendly deals, or we go elsewhere and we find somebody that will. Lets face it, a bunch of those guys last year signed deals elsewhere for bigger money and couldnt wait to get back, ie Driscoll.

I think Sweat signing with Drew might be good for the Eagles, he and Howie seem to get things worked out. TO wouldnt listen to anyone.
 
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Hmmmm Eagles win the Super Bowl and the 2025 power rankings come out on ESPN and they are 4th!! Behind the Chiefs, Bills, Lions. Surprised they didn’t put the Commodores in front as well
 
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A few post season thoughts.

Earlier in the season, I second guessed the Jalen Hurts contract. I wondered if he was really the franchise QB that the contract warranted. I was wrong. I'm not saying he is a top 5 NFL QB (maybe he is?), but make no mistake, he is a legit super bowl caliber QB and he proved it. I really couldn't be happier for him and look forward to more good years.

I also second guessed Nick at times. I'm still not convinced that he isn't more a benefactor of an incredible roster than a great coach, but I saw significant improvement over the season and dude is officially a super bowl champ.

Which brings me to Howie. This dude has been lambasted and mocked by some over the years as a glorified fantasy football player. Since emerging from relegation during the Chip Kelly era, he has built 3 legit super bowl teams and won 2. Botch a WR draft (Jefferson)? make up for it by getting AJ and drafting Smith. Glaring weakness at LB and DB? draft 2 studs at CB and pick up Zach Baun. It's time to ask the question if he is the best GM in the NFL. In fact, is it even a question?
 

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Agree with everything ^. I’ll say Franklin = Hurts. Franklin cause of the new playoff format and Hurts cause of the ring. Both lifetime free passes from me. As for coach meat, i love him very much. Howie imo is the best executive in any sport
Wait n see:

 
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Agree with everything ^. I’ll say Franklin = Hurts. Franklin cause of the new playoff format and Hurts cause of the ring. Both lifetime free passes from me. As for coach meat, i love him very much. Howie imo is the best executive in any sport
Wait n see:

would love to see him in green, but I think it will take more than 2 late 1st round draft picks. Eagles will need to replace Lane Johnson soon.
 
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would love to see him in green, but I think it will take more than 2 late 1st round draft picks. Eagles will need to replace Lane Johnson soon.
Assuming Cleveland agrees to trade Myles, they’ll be seeking two first rounders and a high-ceiling player on a rookie deal from a team like the Eagles. Think Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell or similar.

I think you’re right in saying it’s an extremely long shot. Max Crosby is a much better shot, IMO.
 

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Assuming Cleveland agrees to trade Myles, they’ll be seeking two first rounders and a high-ceiling player on a rookie deal from a team like the Eagles. Think Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell or similar.

I think you’re right in saying it’s an extremely long shot. Max Crosby is a much better shot, IMO.
Better shot, but probably still more than pick #32 in next year's draft right?
 

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Assuming Cleveland agrees to trade Myles, they’ll be seeking two first rounders and a high-ceiling player on a rookie deal from a team like the Eagles. Think Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell or similar.

I think you’re right in saying it’s an extremely long shot. Max Crosby is a much better shot, IMO.
I am not trading Smith and especially Quinyon Mitchell! the greatest thing about Mitchell is, you never hear his name called. The reason is, they dont think the ball his way!!! Think Dion as a pup where they said he took away 1/3 of the field , thats Mitchell
and I aint taking Max Crosby either, fwiw. Heck I think you could bring back Riddick at half the price.
 

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I am not trading Smith and especially Quinyon Mitchell! the greatest thing about Mitchell is, you never hear his name called. The reason is, they dont think the ball his way!!! Think Dion as a pup where they said he took away 1/3 of the field , thats Mitchell
and I aint taking Max Crosby either, fwiw. Heck I think you could bring back Riddick at half the price.
Reddick would be interesting provided he was open to reasonable money. He could be productive on that DL.
 
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I am not trading Smith and especially Quinyon Mitchell! the greatest thing about Mitchell is, you never hear his name called. The reason is, they dont think the ball his way!!! Think Dion as a pup where they said he took away 1/3 of the field , thats Mitchell
and I aint taking Max Crosby either, fwiw. Heck I think you could bring back Riddick at half the price.
That's funny. After the super bowl, I thought, man you didn't hear Mitchell's name all game. Can't get a much better compliment for a CB. Maybe that is why KCs first option was always covered (and second option was Mahomes getting sacked).
 

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Reddick would be interesting provided he was open to reasonable money. He could be productive on that DL.

We've never gotten a definitive explanation of what happened with Reddick, beyond that he wanted a new deal for mega money. The fact that the Birds knew they'd be weaker at DE if they traded him, and they still did, suggests to me that either they weren't enamored of his play against the run, or they didn't think he was a positive influence in the locker room. I could be misinterpreting the situation, but I really don't see Reddick back with the Birds, even if he was born and raised in the Philadelphia region.
 

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Why would he have to lobby hard to make him OC? Hes the HC he should make the call End of discussion

I don't know that Nick has complete control of the process.

Last year, after Brian Johnson was let go, the Birds interviewed 3 candidates:

- Kellen Moore, who they hired
- Kliff Kingsbury, who became the Commanders OC
- Jerrod Johnson, the Texans' QB coach

It will be interesting to see if they stay in-house, or also interview some elite guys from outside the organization.
 

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I don't know that Nick has complete control of the process.

Last year, after Brian Johnson was let go, the Birds interviewed 3 candidates:

- Kellen Moore, who they hired
- Kliff Kingsbury, who became the Commanders OC
- Jerrod Johnson, the Texans' QB coach

It will be interesting to see if they stay in-house, or also interview some elite guys from outside the organization.
I agree he might not have complete control but I will say he should I mean the HC picking his staff should be an absolute right. Why do I think BB was never a serious candidate in Philly? You think he’d let Howie n Geoffrey pick his staff??