2024 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

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It's way too early to give up on Davis. He was rushed to the bigs and is now paying the price.
 
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At what point do we say that, "Henry Davis did not live up to expectations?"
Never should have been the number one overall pick. They knew they could get him cheaper so they took him. Was an average catcher but could hit unfortunately the Pirates minor-league system doesn’t develop anybody so the poor kid is now worse.
 

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Moves made, wins continue, hard to watch with the Olympics driving the viewing this week and next, but hey! Fun Times!
 

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Cruz is so overrated. Tired of hearing about his potential. Singlehandedly lost the game tonight. Three errors blowing a four run lead, and of course, the usual strikeouts. The guy is no shortstop. He had five errors in this three game series alone.
 
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Cruz is so overrated. Tired of hearing about his potential. Singlehandedly lost the game tonight. Three errors blowing a four run lead, and of course, the usual strikeouts. The guy is no shortstop. He had five errors in this three game series alone.
He may be pressing just a little too hard. There will be options in other positions opening up as well once McCutchen retires.
 

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He may be pressing just a little too hard. There will be options in other positions opening up as well once McCutchen retires.
You may be right on this. I never thought he was a shortstop, yet he insisted on playing the position and the Pirates acquiesced. Why, I don't know. His strong arm would be better suited for the outfield. It seems to be more of a detriment in the infield.
 
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You may be right on this. I never thought he was a shortstop, yet he insisted on playing the position and the Pirates acquiesced. Why, I don't know. His strong arm would be better suited for the outfield. It seems to be more of a detriment in the infield.
Could be a decent first baseman while Tellez becomes the DH.
 
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You may be right on this. I never thought he was a shortstop, yet he insisted on playing the position and the Pirates acquiesced. Why, I don't know. His strong arm would be better suited for the outfield. It seems to be more of a detriment in the infield.
He could be a good shortstop if someone would work with him on fundamentals. He relies too much on that elite arm to get him out of trouble. But he allows the ball to play him rather than attacking it and his footwork is atrocious. We're in August and I'd have thought Pirates coaches would have gotten this cleaned up by now.
 
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He could be a good shortstop if someone would work with him on fundamentals. He relies too much on that elite arm to get him out of trouble. But he allows the ball to play him rather than attacking it and his footwork is atrocious. We're in August and I'd have thought Pirates coaches would have gotten this cleaned up by now.
Exactly. They’ve allowed him to get by on just using his elite athleticism and arm. He probably should step in and be the centerfielder, but they don’t really have anyone else who can fill the void at shortstop right now.
 

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Needed that one last night, brutal schedule coming up, need to get that momentum rolling in right direction once again.
Ultimately, I don’t think they’ll get into the playoffs, but it was nice to see the GM go after it a little bit. They’ve now got a couple bats who are better than what they had previously and to me the best part about this season is finding a true starting catcher in Bart.
 
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I for one am glad that they didn't deal the young pitchers. You can never have too many pitchers. I'd like to see them call up chandler and ashcroft as relievers down the stretch. It'll help manage their innings and give them a taste on the majors. Next season young guys who are ready, but don't win a starting spot can be relievers to get more experience and pop into the rotation when I juries hit. Bats are a lot easier and cheaper to find in the FA market than top 1st, 2nd and 3rd pitchers.
 
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I’m looking forward to Jones getting back. Skenes-Jones-Keller is a nice combo at the top of the rotation.
 

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Ultimately, I don’t think they’ll get into the playoffs, but it was nice to see the GM go after it a little bit. They’ve now got a couple bats who are better than what they had previously and to me the best part about this season is finding a true starting catcher in Bart.
And today's outcome is a perfect example as to why. I don't know why they let Cruz bat against a left handed pitcher with the tying run on third with one out. Predictably, he struck out.
 
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And today's outcome is a perfect example as to why. I don't know why they let Cruz bat against a left handed pitcher with the tying run on third with one out. Predictably, he struck out.
I would’ve let Cruz hit as he has been swinging a good bat recently. My issue was a lot of things goes back to poor fundamentals. Shelton doesn’t seem to know when the bunt and when they do, they can’t get the bump down. He doesn’t seem to know when to run, and makes questionable decisions defensively with where to play guys and doing things like hitting the cut off man. I was actually surprised he used a pinch hitter and a pinch runner late in the game today. He needs to do more of that.

They need to do some thing about Holderman in the bullpen. He was very good early on this year, but has definitely had a rough time of it since the All-Star break.
 
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Get swept by SD after giving up another 9th inning lead. This occurrence is not new as Bednar gives up multiple free walks and Cruz makes another key error.

They are a team of whatever it takes right now, just not in a good way.
 

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If not, very close. In any case, not much will change until they get a new owner. And that isn't gonna happen.
Its a shame, because other than the play on the field :rolleyes: taking in a Pirates game is a nice experience.

Easy to get to and park.
Lots of tailgating going on (when the weather is nice)
Great location for pre and post-game - bars, restaurants, walks along the river, easy access to dahntahn.
The stadium, of course, is wonderful - great sightlines and views.

Had the pleasure of taking in what may prove to be the Pirates last win of the year (I kid.... probably :) )
when they beat the Snakes two weeks ago. Even with the lengthy rain delay, was a very nice experience.
 
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Long time coming. If he succeeds out there, it may get his mind off things and help him at the plate.
 
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Well I guess they’ll give him at least one game to DH and watch how not to play CF as Bae drops a fly ball and Cubs end up scoring twice with two out.

Have him learn the position in games this year while the are already realistically eliminated.
 

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From flirting with a playoff berth at the break to being 10 games out of the wildcard today. And being on the wrong end of a combined no-no. What a tease the Buccos were.
 

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We are back and kicking ***. This team has the makeup to finish with a .500 record. Kansas City, you are next!
 

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