2025 Wrestlers movement; portal

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I am sure coaches didn't approach him. What coach would say no? Obviously wants to come and buy into system.
Ryder was/is a very hyped prospect. At worst an AA contender. Handled Arnold (i know, who hasn't) in freestyle.
 
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I am sure coaches didn't approach him. What coach would say no? Obviously wants to come and buy into system.
But is he a fit into the culture? That is what keeps this team together. I like Ryder and this doesn’t seem to give him much choice, but to leave. He spent the last two years in SC waiting for his chance.
 
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But is he a fit into the culture? That is what keeps this team together. I like Ryder and this doesn’t seem to give him much choice, but to leave. He spent the last two years in SC waiting for his chance.
There was a poster on here who basically said we turned Rocco way at some point. No idea if true.

Maybe Ryder or Mirasolas have been leaving and we just didn't know. Who knows. I'm all for the best team, but this seems a little weird.
 
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There was a poster on here who basically said we turned Rocco way at some point. No idea if true.

Maybe Ryder or Mirasolas have been leaving and we just didn't know. Who knows. I'm all for the best team, but this seems a little weird.
I had heard in the past that Rocco had a reputation coming out of high school. I don’t have specifics, that’s all I got. He also was a bit of a punk to Barr in the Pittsburgh Wrestling Classic a few years ago. I have to be honest. I don’t really like the feel of this. This one feels different. I trust Cael and Co., but Ryder seems to have done everything right to get a spot in the lineup, including moving to State College and training with the NLWC his senior yr of HS (like Haines and Kasak). He’s a highly talented kid with a U20 world silver medal on his resume. He made three world teams in the past (2 bronze and a silver). He won the Southern Scuffle this year pretty easily, while beating two ranked wrestlers. I don’t get it, unless there is something we don’t know? Maybe el-jefe has some insight?
 
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Trust the coaches. They know what is best for the team. Everyone has their opinion, but only one man's opinion counts. No one is guaranteed a spot. Starocci is not your ideal psu wrestler attitude wise, though he has gotten better this year. For the record I am all in on Ryder, and feel they can do without welsh. They also would have survived without ono.
 

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I wanted a big man in the portal; I was thinking a center or power forward.

Bring him in and let him compete. Probably doesn’t cost a lot, if anything, to get him into the room. Then it is up to him.
 

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I had heard in the past that Rocco had a reputation coming out of high school. I don’t have specifics, that’s all I got. He also was a bit of a punk to Barr in the Pittsburgh Wrestling Classic a few years ago. I have to be honest. I don’t really like the feel of this. This one feels different. I trust Cael and Co., but Ryder seems to have done everything right to get a spot in the lineup, including moving to State College and training with the NLWC his senior yr of HS (like Haines and Kasak). He’s a highly talented kid with a U20 world silver medal on his resume. He made three world teams in the past (2 bronze and a silver). He won the Southern Scuffle this year pretty easily, while beating two ranked wrestlers. I don’t get it, unless there is something we don’t know? Maybe el-jefe has some insight?
I kinda had the same feel about Welsh in HS. Can't remember how much of that was specifically him, vs how much was Waynesburg -- they've had their share of guys who shall we say would fit in at Rutgers Fight Club.

Word is that Welsh approached PSU, not vice-versa -- kinda like Max Dean did. If so, and the coaches are OK with his personality/fit with the team, then you don't turn him away. (BTW, apparently he and Michael Mocco were both in Bo Nickal's suite at NCAAs.) Worst case, he doesn't fit and finds himself back in the portal.

Really like Ryder as a prospect, but he has not earned the job. Therefore he has not earned the right to stave off an import. (And even if he did ... Davis didn't block Ono.) For that matter, Welsh has not earned the job yet either. He'll have to beat out Ryder, and it's not a given. If Ryder loses the spot, he has a year to work his way down to 174 as Levi's successor. He'll be better for it.
 

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So apparently BOTH AJ and Anthony Ferrari are in the portal. Speculation is both may be going to Iowa State. Hawkeye fans have to be melting down.
Fredo was back in the portal approximately 5 minutes after arriving at LIU.

Dresser pretty clearly wants AJ. Don't know if he would take Fredo too.

Also not sure Iowa fans are all that broken up about it. Most have accepted that the AD won't let AJ back in, and they never feel threatened by ISU.
 

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Just stop.

Cael believes in Cole as a HWT.

And why on earth would the highest returning 197 placer deliberately choose to move up when he doesn't have a terrible cut?
I dont know Boys get bigger as they age too many variables at play even for other teammates ------- you tell us where it all fits because if what you say is true about HWT if this welsh stuff is true there appear to be no room at the inn for someone

sometimes your star right fielder moves to first base
 
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I kinda had the same feel about Welsh in HS. Can't remember how much of that was specifically him, vs how much was Waynesburg -- they've had their share of guys who shall we say would fit in at Rutgers Fight Club

Word is that Welsh approached PSU, not vice-versa -- kinda like Max Dean did. If so, and the coaches are OK with his personality/fit with the team, then you don't turn him away. (BTW, apparently he and Michael Mocco were both in Bo Nickal's suite at NCAAs.) Worst case, he doesn't fit and finds himself back in the portal.

Really like Ryder as a prospect, but he has not earned the job. Therefore he has not earned the right to stave off an import. (And even if he did ... Davis didn't block Ono.) For that matter, Welsh has not earned the job yet either. He'll have to beat out Ryder, and it's not a given. If Ryder loses the spot, he has a year to work his way down to 174 as Levi's successor. He'll be better for it.




Last year’s final vs Carter… clean match until a shove of the head when the action was stopped OOB with 8 seconds left. I remember Carter saying he quickly decided not to respond, as he didn’t want it to end that way.

That’s the only Welsh match I have seen.
 
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I dont know Boys get bigger as they age too many variables at play even for other teammates ------- you tell us where it all fits because if what you say is true about HWT if this welsh stuff is true there appear to be no room at the inn for someone

sometimes your star right fielder moves to first base
There is already no room at the inn for multiple guys. The Cunningham boys may never see the starting line up. Davis may never start again. List goes on.
 
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I kinda had the same feel about Welsh in HS. Can't remember how much of that was specifically him, vs how much was Waynesburg -- they've had their share of guys who shall we say would fit in at Rutgers Fight Club.

Word is that Welsh approached PSU, not vice-versa -- kinda like Max Dean did. If so, and the coaches are OK with his personality/fit with the team, then you don't turn him away. (BTW, apparently he and Michael Mocco were both in Bo Nickal's suite at NCAAs.) Worst case, he doesn't fit and finds himself back in the portal.

Really like Ryder as a prospect, but he has not earned the job. Therefore he has not earned the right to stave off an import. (And even if he did ... Davis didn't block Ono.) For that matter, Welsh has not earned the job yet either. He'll have to beat out Ryder, and it's not a given. If Ryder loses the spot, he has a year to work his way down to 174 as Levi's successor. He'll be better for it.
Agree with all, including the last paragraph. I just hope everyone involved is patient and lets it all play out.
 

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Last year’s final vs Carter… clean match until a shove of the head when the action was stopped OOB with 8 seconds left. I remember Carter saying he quickly decided not to respond, as he didn’t want it to end that way.

That’s the only Welsh match I have seen.

Welsh gave Barr a little extra shove after their Pittsburgh Wrestling Classic match also, if I remember correctly.
 
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I am interested in the kids that have been to 3 colleges, do they even end up getting a degree?
 

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So you have MatScouts and Mineo reporting its a done deal to Penn State. Now this Basch guy is saying it’s not. ?????????
 

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Maybe Welsh was just putting it out there that he was coming here to get a bigger bag to go elsewhere?
 
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