2027 Recruiting

[Bunsen82]

You call it "negativity".
I call it "objectivity".

Its irrational. You still haven't been able to reconcile Caitlin losing in the 2nd round in 2022. Its no different than this year and arguably we had a worse roster -

Czinano - Ava push
Warnock - Hannah push
Martin - Stremlow/McCabe Martin
Gabbie- Feuerbach Gabbie
Caitlin - Chit Chat Caitlin

Upsets happen - get over it - that is being realistic. If you are a fan cheer on these girls and stop being a tool. Right now you have shown no signs that you are fan of the team. Only that you want Jan fired. I unblocked you to see you are up to the same sh*t from a month ago. Seriously dude give it a rest. You can be pessimistic, we know, maybe they will outperform your expectations.

As I said a month ago - this roster will be better than last year. Faison is a very nice depth piece and we appear to be stating she is a F.

 

[iThinkiWill]

You call it "negativity".
I call it "objectivity".

That’s where you are mistaken. You are conflating the two. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. They are not two different sides of the same thing. Objectivity is not the opposite of negativity. Positivity is. Subjectivity is the opposite of objectivity. In other words, you can be both objective and negative simultaneously.

I urge you to resolve yourself to a more positive point of view. I know it’s not easy (very few good things are), but it is worth it. Trust me. I know. You will feel better if you let go of your grief. Good luck.

 

[Anon1750875978]

That’s where you are mistaken. You are conflating the two. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. They are not two different sides of the same thing. Objectivity is not the opposite of negativity. Positivity is. Subjectivity is the opposite of objectivity. In other words, you can be both objective and negative simultaneously.

I urge you to resolve yourself to a more positive point of view. I know it’s not easy (very few good things are), but it is worth it. Trust me. I know. You will feel better if you let go of your grief. Good luck.

Grief??????
That's funny.
Like, really funny.

 

[iThinkiWill]

Grief??????
That's funny.
Like, really funny.

Glad I could help Mitchll. You are on your own now. Good luck

 

[o_Terrykohawk]

Interesting that several womens bb recruiting websites do not list Iowa for Destiny Manyawu. Weird, given that her brother is here.

 

[Anon1764183948]

Interesting that several womens bb recruiting websites do not list Iowa for Destiny Manyawu. Weird, given that her brother is here.

Not that weird. I didn't go to the same University that my sisters went to. I went to Iowa. One didn't go, the other went to UNI and the other went to what is now Missouri State.

Savvy Swords will start at Kentucky this year. Syla plays at Michigan.

Sienna Betts chose UCLA after Lauren chose Stanford. She was initially upset when Lauren decided to transfer her to "her" school, but kept her UCLA commitment.

 

[Hawkangler]

Interesting that several womens bb recruiting websites do not list Iowa for Destiny Manyawu. Weird, given that her brother is here.

Not totally surprising. These young women want to play. With McKenna coming in as a five star PF, she may not feel she will get a lot playing time. Actually, as athletic as McKenna is and since she is a three level scorer, she could play the three.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Not that weird. I didn't go to the same University that my sisters went to. I went to Iowa. One didn't go, the other went to UNI and the other went to what is now Missouri State.

Savvy Swords will start at Kentucky this year. Syla plays at Michigan.

Sienna Betts chose UCLA after Lauren chose Stanford. She was initially upset when Lauren decided to transfer her to "her" school, but kept her UCLA commitment.

Actually Lauren Betts transferred to UCLA in April of 2023. Sienna Betts didn't verbally commit to UCLA until November of 2023, 7 months after Lauren had already transferred.

Center Lauren Betts leaves Stanford, will transfer to UCLA

Lauren Betts, a 6-foot-7 center who was the No. 1 recruit in the ESPN HoopGurlz 2022 rankings, announced on social media Tuesday that she is transferring from Stanford to UCLA after playing in 33 games this season for the Cardinal.

www.espn.com

Sienna Betts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[UpstreamHawkeye]

Interesting that several womens bb recruiting websites do not list Iowa for Destiny Manyawu. Weird, given that her brother is here.

Do they not list Iowa because they feel Manyawu has low interest in Iowa? I believe Iowa offered her and she visited Iowa.

Edit: Kyle's article states she has not visited Iowa yet.

 

[Hawkangler]

Do they not list Iowa because they feel Manyawu has low interest in Iowa? I believe Iowa offered her and she visited Iowa.

Edit: Kyle's article states she has not visited Iowa yet.

She took an unofficial to Iowa. There are pictures posted earlier in this thread.

 

[iThinkiWill]

Not totally surprising. These young women want to play. With McKenna coming in as a five star PF, she may not feel she will get a lot playing time. Actually, as athletic as McKenna is and since she is a three level scorer, she could play the three.

Yes, and I would think that Faison could play 4 situationally as well. I think her, McKenna and Journey more or less fit the description “position-less” hybrid forward/wing.

As the roster now stands, I believe McKenna would start at the 4. However that could change if Iowa can close the deal on the rumored transfer portal forward. My personal favorite, (the one that keeps popping up in my crystal ball) is still uncommitted. So I am still hoping.

 

[Todd-Mar....]

Yes, and I would think that Faison could play 4 situationally as well. I think her, McKenna and Journey more or less fit the description “position-less” hybrid forward/wing.

As the roster now stands, I believe McKenna would start at the 4. However that could change if Iowa can close the deal on the rumored transfer portal forward. My personal favorite, (the one that keeps popping up in my crystal ball) is still uncommitted. So I am still hoping.

Nation Williams?

 

[iThinkiWill]

Nation Williams?

In the portal. Grad transfer. They typically take longer to decide and commit. Her transfer status is “hush hush” and is still considered a “long shot”. But I am still hoping.

 

[Stenderam1991]

In the portal. Grad transfer. They typically take longer to decide and commit. Her transfer status is “hush hush” and is still considered a “long shot”. But I am still hoping.

Who??!

 

[iThinkiWill]

Who??!

*****2026-27 Transfer Portal News***** - Page 46 - Forums

Let the fun begin

www.on3.com

Post # 1811

 

[Hawkangler]

Thought I would update with possible prospects for 2027 and portal needs. If nobody hits the portal, we have four open slots. I would expect Jan to bring in two from the portal to replace Kylie and Taylor's skillsets.

We would probably have two if not three spots the following year with #41 Jada Seubert CG committed. My hope is #32/#35 Destiny Manyawu a 6'3" PF/C, very athletic and # 46 Mya Wilson a 6'1" CG/SF.

#10 Nation Williams or #1 Kaleena Smith are long shots. Have not heard much about Madi Mingery or Harper Dunn so very unlikely.

CG Brinley Altenburg and #42 F/C Addison Medeck could also be in play.

Hope the women have a strong post season to keep the talent level coming to Iowa City.

The past four pages of posts have gotten off the 2027 class recruiting track so I thought I would repost my post 247.

Seubert is only commit so far, Altenburg to the Huskers.

Someone mentioned Manyawu has not listed the Hawks as one of her finalists. Not sure if that's true.

Really hoping we can get Wilson, we'll need a SF when Whiting leaves after next year. Did see a thread about Migneri visiting schools that was behind a pay wall, not sure Iowa is still in the mix. No word on Medeck.

Still think Williams is a long shot but I give Jan credit for trying.

Maybe Hawkbuck has some insight on others.

 

[SimonaMeow]

Actually Lauren Betts transferred to UCLA in April of 2023. Sienna Betts didn't verbally commit to UCLA until November of 2023, 7 months after Lauren had already transferred.

Center Lauren Betts leaves Stanford, will transfer to UCLA

Lauren Betts, a 6-foot-7 center who was the No. 1 recruit in the ESPN HoopGurlz 2022 rankings, announced on social media Tuesday that she is transferring from Stanford to UCLA after playing in 33 games this season for the Cardinal.

www.espn.com

Sienna Betts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The timing of the signings ended up in that order.

However the broader point was about whether siblings want to necessarily follow each other. Sienna herself has stated she chose UCLA to not be at the same place as Lauren originally. She was initially unhappy at Lauren's decision to transfer there.

She was initially pondering to NOT come after Lauren decided to transfer there because she was hesitant to want to follow her sister. She purposefully didn't have Stanford as one of her top choices originally because she did not want to play at the same school of her sister.

What's it like for UCLA's Sienna Betts to play with her sister Lauren? We asked her

Sienna Betts wanted to make UCLA women's basketball her thing. Then her sister Lauren transfered to play for the Bruins. Cue the sisterly banter.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Jonesy5960]

I wonder how many freshmen Jan wants to bring in for next year. You'll likely have 4 juniors, 3 sophomores, and a freshman in the regular rotation this coming year. If everyone stays, and you add Seubert that's 9 players already coming into 2027 which is where we stand today. Unless it's a high level 5 star player that the staff feels can contribute right away, it makes adding more freshmen in 2027 somewhat problematic in terms of resource allocation. Those freshmen probably want to get paid, so holding onto players that aren't playing right now is kind of a thing of the past, and if someone does leave the roster, the portal is a more effective means of plugging any holes in the roster.

 

[NORTHSTAR]

The timing of the signings ended up in that order.

However the broader point was about whether siblings want to necessarily follow each other. Sienna herself has stated she chose UCLA to not be at the same place as Lauren originally. She was initially unhappy at Lauren's decision to transfer there.

She was initially pondering to NOT come after Lauren decided to transfer there because she was hesitant to want to follow her sister. She purposefully didn't have Stanford as one of her top choices originally because she did not want to play at the same school of her sister.

What's it like for UCLA's Sienna Betts to play with her sister Lauren? We asked her

Sienna Betts wanted to make UCLA women's basketball her thing. Then her sister Lauren transfered to play for the Bruins. Cue the sisterly banter.

www.usatoday.com

Lauren definitely cut in to Sienna's minutes.

 

[citizenHawk1]

I wonder how many freshmen Jan wants to bring in for next year. You'll likely have 4 juniors, 3 sophomores, and a freshman in the regular rotation this coming year. If everyone stays, and you add Seubert that's 9 players already coming into 2027 which is where we stand today. Unless it's a high level 5 star player that the staff feels can contribute right away, it makes adding more freshmen in 2027 somewhat problematic in terms of resource allocation. Those freshmen probably want to get paid, so holding onto players that aren't playing right now is kind of a thing of the past, and if someone does leave the roster, the portal is a more effective means of plugging any holes in the roster.

Probably nothing to it, but the one thing I thought was interesting about the short Cory Brada interview the other night, was Jensen not tossing in a nod/mention to high school recruiting and that balance. She generally always throws in a mention to that, but didn't even bring it to play. Yeah, probably nothing to garner from that, but maybe it's drifting in the heat of the portal, or drifting in general with a '27 class.

*People (people) will lose their minds if/when she were to only bring on one freshman in a class again.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Probably nothing to it, but the one thing I thought was interesting about the short Cory Brada interview the other night, was Jensen not tossing in a nod/mention to high school recruiting and that balance. She generally always throws in a mention to that, but didn't even bring it to play. Yeah, probably nothing to garner from that, but maybe it's drifting in the heat of the portal, or drifting in general with a '27 class.

*People (people) will lose their minds if/when she were to only bring on one freshman in a class again.

High school recruiting is becoming secondary to roster retention and portal acquisitions in the strategies of most programs today. Skinnier rosters and fewer HS recruits will become the norm at places like Iowa where 4 of the top 9 players will be transfers next year.

 

[citizenHawk1]

High school recruiting is becoming secondary to roster retention and portal acquisitions in the strategies of most programs today. Skinnier rosters and fewer HS recruits will become the norm at places like Iowa where 4 of the top 9 players will be transfers next year.

Seems obvious, but still a lot of people seem to be slow to catch up to this new reality.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Seems obvious, but still a lot of people seem to be slow to catch up to this new reality.

Yeah. It takes a while for change to sink in. The reality is that, prior to the portal Iowa would have have been forced to rely on HS recruits to fill vacancies now occupied by transfers. All of these new players that are expected to fill key roles in the upcoming season. These players aren't replacing the Gyamfis, Johnsons and Levins of the world. They're replacing veteran key members of this year's team, something most freshmen can't do. Jan gets all of this. A lot of fans don't however.

 

[TheGreatDivider101]

Any one know about where things stand with Chloe Johnson? Talia Goodman posted an update but its only for paying members and she mentions Baylor, USC and Duke in the title thread. I'm guessing there is nothing about Iowa otherwise someone would have posted if there was some positivity.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

High school recruiting is becoming secondary to roster retention and portal acquisitions in the strategies of most programs today. Skinnier rosters and fewer HS recruits will become the norm at places like Iowa where 4 of the top 9 players will be transfers next year.

Having had two sons play college ball, its got to be pretty tense for high school players these days, especially if your not a top 100 kid. I guess the vast majority have to start out at the UNI's of the world, and hope to impress enough to move up in a year or two.

 

[Hawkangler]

I wonder how many freshmen Jan wants to bring in for next year. You'll likely have 4 juniors, 3 sophomores, and a freshman in the regular rotation this coming year. If everyone stays, and you add Seubert that's 9 players already coming into 2027 which is where we stand today. Unless it's a high level 5 star player that the staff feels can contribute right away, it makes adding more freshmen in 2027 somewhat problematic in terms of resource allocation. Those freshmen probably want to get paid, so holding onto players that aren't playing right now is kind of a thing of the past, and if someone does leave the roster, the portal is a more effective means of plugging any holes in the roster.

You need to bring in 3 - 4 to develop. Relying on the portal could be a long term mistake.

High school recruiting is becoming secondary to roster retention and portal acquisitions in the strategies of most programs today. Skinnier rosters and fewer HS recruits will become the norm at places like Iowa where 4 of the top 9 players will be transfers next year.

If Addie had toughed it out, doubt Whiting comes to Iowa. I think we won on that front. May have been three of nine. Either way, you need several 4-5 stars in every class.

 

[Manfredi]

You need to bring in 3 - 4 to develop. Relying on the portal could be a long term mistake. Either way, you need several 4-5 stars in every class.

If you bring in several 4-5 stars in every class then you better have the minutes to give them day 1 or you are just getting them ready for their next home imo. In this day and age few highly ranked players are willing to spend a couple years to "develop".

 

[Jonesy5960]

You need to bring in 3 - 4 to develop. Relying on the portal could be a long term mistake.

If Addie had toughed it out, doubt Whiting comes to Iowa. I think we won on that front. May have been three of nine. Either way, you need several 4-5 stars in every class.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here, but Iowa isn't going to be recruiting 3-4 HS players in every class in today's environment. I wouldn't be surprised if 2027 is the second straight year they take one and I'd be very surprised if it was more than 2.

In regards to Addie, she wasn't going to take a cut in pay and play a backup role when there were better opportunities to play elsewhere. That's the problem with bringing in HS players who might excel some day but aren't as productive as more proven players who are ready to go and are a better fit for a particular role. Players like Addie are a cautionary tale.

 

[Hawkangler]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here, but Iowa isn't going to be recruiting 3-4 HS players in every class in today's environment. I wouldn't be surprised if 2027 is the second straight year they take one and I'd be very surprised if it was more than 2.

In regards to Addie, she wasn't going to take a cut in pay and play a backup role when there were better opportunities to play elsewhere. That's the problem with bringing in HS players who might excel some day but aren't as productive as more proven players who are ready to go and are a better fit for a particular role. Players like Addie are a cautionary tale.

I'm not saying 3 - 4 every year but we could use 3 - 4 in 2027 with Whiting having only one year. We'll play at least 3 seniors in the 27 - 28 season. The 27 class would be sophs with plenty of minutes available.

 

[Clarkedallas]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here, but Iowa isn't going to be recruiting 3-4 HS players in every class in today's environment. I wouldn't be surprised if 2027 is the second straight year they take one and I'd be very surprised if it was more than 2.

In regards to Addie, she wasn't going to take a cut in pay and play a backup role when there were better opportunities to play elsewhere. That's the problem with bringing in HS players who might excel some day but aren't as productive as more proven players who are ready to go and are a better fit for a particular role. Players like Addie are a cautionary tale.

This is a new world with what is essentially free agency. JJ has continued to express she likes the player development part of the game. I think she looks to take 3 in the upcoming class. Jada S is already a commit. Whiting will be leaving that opens a spot at the wing. I would expect she is looking for someone to provide depth and learn in the front court. Retention is key an injury or transfer could change the team at any point.

 

[HawkFan10]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here, but Iowa isn't going to be recruiting 3-4 HS players in every class in today's environment. I wouldn't be surprised if 2027 is the second straight year they take one and I'd be very surprised if it was more than 2.

That would be beyond stupid.....unless Jan just doesn't know how to recruit the HS ranks...

 

[KyleHuesmann]

That would be beyond stupid.....unless Jan just doesn't know how to recruit the HS ranks...

Unless one or two of the remaining additions from the portal is a senior, they’ll only lose Whiting from next year’s roster.

Adding 3-4 in the ‘27 class would give them 14-15 on the roster and I don’t think they want that.

 

[hawkbr]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here, but Iowa isn't going to be recruiting 3-4 HS players in every class in today's environment. I wouldn't be surprised if 2027 is the second straight year they take one and I'd be very surprised if it was more than 2.

If the next recruiting class has only one recruit, it's not because Iowa didn't want to recruit more than that, it's because Iowa couldn't recruit more than that. Iowa made 16 or more offers in the 2027 class.The Recruit #1 and unranked recruits received offers from Iowa. If we happen to have only Jada Seubert in the class, it means the other recruits declined the Iowa offer and preferred another program. Then we'll go to the Portal for a new recruitment opportunity.

 

[Manfredi]

I'm not saying 3 - 4 every year but we could use 3 - 4 in 2027 with Whiting having only one year.

In post #466 you said "either way you need several 4-5 stars in every class. Just don't see that as possible or happening.

 

[citizenHawk1]

Dynamics change. Money changes. An offer that went out a year ago, two years ago, is an offer to a changing situation. And that situation changes again even when the players have already committed. You see some of that playing out already with de-commits before h.s. recruits get to campus.

When offers change mid-course, it's a similar equivalent to a school pulling an offer. Nobody knows where all those prior offers now sit. Because of the new dynamics, I'd bet far fewer commits from high school players until they are midway through their senior year, or have a better understanding of their playing time and expected income.

Iowa would probably take any priority recruit, and why they will leave room for it, but they will likely cap things at 12 for any given year. Should be interesting to see what happens. Curious to know who the coaches will be watching in Minneapolis this week.

*Given the situation, however, amid all these changes, Seubert was smart to commit early and secure her spot.

 

[hawkbr]

Jada Seubert is unranked in ESPN ranking and is #93 in the 247 ranking. She say yes to Iowa offer and Iowa announced the commitment. So it's a little hard to believe that if two or three top50 recruits want say yes Iowa offers, Iowa may either be unhappy or reject the "yes" in some way. Sixteen offers were made by Iowa, the question is whether any of those recruits will accept Iowa's offer. If none of them say yes to Iowa offers, that will be the reason Iowa has a class with only one recruit again.

 

[Hawkangler]

Unless one or two of the remaining additions from the portal is a senior, they’ll only lose Whiting from next year’s roster.

Adding 3-4 in the ‘27 class would give them 14-15 on the roster and I don’t think they want that.

Nine on the roster, Whiting departs and Seubert comes in, still at nine. If Jan brings in two more portal pieces, will they develop, questionable? Even if they are underclassmen, you are at 11. Adding several more 4 star players, you are at 13.
I still think she takes three if higher ranked.

 

[NORTHSTAR]

I'm not saying 3 - 4 every year but we could use 3 - 4 in 2027 with Whiting having only one year. We'll play at least 3 seniors in the 27 - 28 season. The 27 class would be sophs with plenty of minutes available.

I agree, and if Jan can get 1 or 2 every year which would give her 5 or 6 on the team over 4 classes, and keep them, then I believe that will lead to pretty good success.