$4.5 million buyout

[Rupert Jenkins]

Is what I read on another board. There is a lot of year left and this team might well make a major turn around. I hope they do but personally I don't see it happening. Say it's a 4-8 or 5-7 year. Would you support firing Arnett or should he get another year ??

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I don't think they'll fire him after this year honestly, outside of us being completely hapless. I've about decided this doesn't matter at all until the end of the year. We could be 2-9 but if we put it together and beat Ole Miss, he will get another year.

Well, I better say 4-8. Can't lose to SMTTT either.

 

[patdog]

4-8 and I'd definitely support firing him. It's not gonna happen though.

 

[Dawg1976]

4-8 with a raping by OM I can see it happening. Hell….I’ll contribute $5 to the cause.

 

[CoastTrash]

Probably time to ask who hired the guy you want fired and whether that person should get a “do over”

 

[Darryl Steight]

Contract is $3M/year for 4 years, with half the remaining money due at a buyout.

So assuming you fire him at the end of this season, he would have $9M left total, so that's where they are getting the $4.5M buyout number.

Andy Staples says there is a duty to mitigate clause, so if ZA took another job, say as a DC getting paid $1.2M/year, you'd only owe him the difference. That's why some people have said there would be very little buyout money due.

This is all just for clarity, I'm not advocating for it.

 

[The Peeper]

Contract is $3M/year for 4 years, with half the remaining money due at a buyout.

So assuming you fire him at the end of this season, he would have $9M left total, so that's where they are getting the $4.5M buyout number.

Andy Staples says there is a duty to mitigate clause, so if ZA took another job, say as a DC getting paid $1.2M/year, you'd only owe him the difference. That's why some people have said there would be very little buyout money due.

This is all just for clarity, I'm not advocating for it.

I'd take $4.5million to stay home and play with the kids for 3 years..........

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Is what I read on another board. There is a lot of year left and this team might well make a major turn around. I hope they do but personally I don't see it happening. Say it's a 4-8 or 5-7 year. Would you support firing Arnett or should he get another year ??

Arnett is on his first head coaching job. The only game where we looked totally clueless was LSU. The man needs to get his recruits in.

Lose to Western Michigan, all bets are off.

 

[dickiedawg]

Is what I read on another board. There is a lot of year left and this team might well make a major turn around. I hope they do but personally I don't see it happening. Say it's a 4-8 or 5-7 year. Would you support firing Arnett or should he get another year ??

One hundred percent in favor of firing him at 4-8. That’s inexcusable.

 

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We have a lot returning but a **** load of unknowns. Come back and ask me after the South Carolina game. I hate this schedule more and more for getting the correct temperature of a rookie coach. We had a tough off-season but seem to have gotten ourselves back together.
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I was slightly optimistic on the record, but I was more right than I wanted to be about what might happen this season. It's after the South Carolina game, and I still don't think we know where we stand. We've seen scoring against the gamecocks and we've seen us be utterly inept in the Alabama game.

We should have a better idea of where we stand after the Ole Miss game and whether we should go forward or not.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Yes it's 50 % of remaining contract due over 3 years minus any new salary he might take. As if he would. I mean I would not. I would be blown away if we beat an SEC opponents. I suppose Auburn is a slim possibility. Kentucky will simply run all over us. Arkansas and OM will shred us thru the air and on ground. I can't imagine we can snag a surefire coach but 2 or 3 years of struggle will suck

 

[ronpolk]

Maybe I’m wrong but I would think he’d definitely take another job fairly quickly. He’s 37 years old, he’s not about to retire. He’s a young coach that I assume would want to work toward another shot at being a head coach. It’s not like he’s forfeited the money by taking another job. He’s guaranteed to get whatever the buyout is.

 

[Ibdancin]

Is what I read on another board. There is a lot of year left and this team might well make a major turn around. I hope they do but personally I don't see it happening. Say it's a 4-8 or 5-7 year. Would you support firing Arnett or should he get another year ??

I support it now

 

[civildawg88]

Let ole miss blow us out in Starkville and everyone will support firing him. If he doesn't make a bowl, 100% should be fired

 

[blitz2Win]

Yes it's 50 % of remaining contract due over 3 years minus any new salary he might take. As if he would. I mean I would not. I would be blown away if we beat an SEC opponents. I suppose Auburn is a slim possibility. Kentucky will simply run all over us. Arkansas and OM will shred us thru the air and on ground. I can't imagine we can snag a surefire coach but 2 or 3 years of struggle will suck

Based on what I’ve seen so far, especially talent evaluation-use of the portal, if he gets another year that means he and his staff replace the 19 departing seniors + whatever skill players depart in the portal. This is bad because if he whiffs on a lot of the roster replacements, the new coach coming in in two years is going to be hamstrung. this guarantees 3 years in a row of suckage.

Id rather bring in a smart experienced HC for next year, let him restock the roster and we will only take our lumps this year and next, not 3 years in a row.

On top of this you don’t know what scheme the next HC is going to run and the players may not fit his scheme, which just sets the rebuild back further. need a clean break.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Maybe I’m wrong but I would think he’d definitely take another job fairly quickly. He’s 37 years old, he’s not about to retire. He’s a young coach that I assume would want to work toward another shot at being a head coach. It’s not like he’s forfeited the money by taking another job. He’s guaranteed to get whatever the buyout is.

Personally I would prefer not working for a couple years

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Is what I read on another board. There is a lot of year left and this team might well make a major turn around. I hope they do but personally I don't see it happening. Say it's a 4-8 or 5-7 year. Would you sup0-3 port firing Arnett or should he get another year ??

I'm looking at it like it's Covid Year 2.0. He won't be fired after this season, but the fans will most likely stay away if we start 0-3 in 24

 

[civildawg88]

I'm looking at it like it's Covid Year 2.0. He won't be fired after this season, but the fans will most likely stay away if we start 0-3 in 24

Why would anyone consider this a Covid year? We returned near our whole team and we just should just act like we can't win football games?

 

[T-TownDawgg]

I support it now

Funny, you got severe butttthurt at the last MSU football firing of Jugghead

 

[ronpolk]

Personally I would prefer not working for a couple years

You’re not a young ambitious coach trying to stay relevant in college football.

 

[7Dust]

Funny, you got severe butttthurt at the last MSU football firing of Jugghead

You should have seen him on the 247 board(under the id Thomas)....he went nuts when folks pushed for the firing of Moorhead.

 

[Ibdancin]

You should have seen him on the 247 board(under the id Thomas)....he went nuts when folks pushed for the firing of Moorhead.

LOL! I love it when people do this kind of thing.

 

[7Dust]

LOL! I love it when people do this kind of thing.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I support it now

Fire him Saturday at 4pm!

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Why would anyone consider this a Covid year? We returned near our whole team and we just should just act like we can't win football games?

You have your opinion, I have mine.

 

[The Peeper]

You’re not a young ambitious coach trying to stay relevant in college football.

I think you meant "become relevant in college football".

 

[Ibdancin]

Sure you do. Tomorrow I will be Rogers dad right?

 

[mcdawg22]

Who negotiated a 4.5 million dollar buyout? That may be one of the dumbest fahking things I have ever heard. Keenum is a real dipshit

 

[Seinfeld]

Arnett is on his first head coaching job. The only game where we looked totally clueless was LSU. The man needs to get his recruits in.

Lose to Western Michigan, all bets are off.

I’d agree with this with a couple additional stipulations

1) Next season needs to either be the beginning of the Parson era or else we better find a legit QB in the portal to give CP more time.

2) If our HS recruiting is going to be where it is(the SEC cellar), Arnett needs to clean up in the portal. 7-8 SEC quality guys minimum that can start for us next year

If he’s not capable of these things, I don’t even know what we’re doing other than getting the results that you’d expect from having the lowest paid coach in the conference

 

[knock him out john]

Based on what I’ve seen so far, especially talent evaluation-use of the portal, if he gets another year that means he and his staff replace the 19 departing seniors + whatever skill players depart in the portal. This is bad because if he whiffs on a lot of the roster replacements, the new coach coming in in two years is going to be hamstrung. this guarantees 3 years in a row of suckage.

Id rather bring in a smart experienced HC for next year, let him restock the roster and we will only take our lumps this year and next, not 3 years in a row.

On top of this you don’t know what scheme the next HC is going to run and the players may not fit his scheme, which just sets the rebuild back further. need a clean break.

the only good thing is the portal can help you rebuild faster if you can get the talent or fill in the gaps. Prime is all about the portal and says it's hurting the high school recruiting. It will be up to the new coach to recruit and work the portal. Freeze is doing a good job of working the portal hard as well as Prime. They are competitive in their year one.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Who negotiated a 4.5 million dollar buyout? That may be one of the dumbest fahking things I have ever heard. Keenum is a real dipshit

1.5 million a year for 3 years with mitigation for future earnings from another coaching job is pretty cheap. If he took another job might only cost $500,000 a year for 3 years. I expected a bigger buyout. Less would be better but you know how this crap goes. Look at Orgeron and Mullen. I know he ain't them but these coaches are raking it in

 

[Darryl Steight]

Yes it's 50 % of remaining contract due over 3 years minus any new salary he might take. As if he would. I mean I would not. I would be blown away if we beat an SEC opponents. I suppose Auburn is a slim possibility. Kentucky will simply run all over us. Arkansas and OM will shred us thru the air and on ground. I can't imagine we can snag a surefire coach but 2 or 3 years of struggle will suck

That would be why they included a 'duty to mitigate' clause (assuming Staples is right about that). I have never seen the contract, so I don't know what it says, but I've seen lots of contracts where one party has an obligation to try to mitigate damage to the other party.

Let's say I'm a landlord and a tenant moves out before their term is up... I could simply sit there and wait on the tenant to pay rent on the empty space each month, UNLESS there is a clause that says I have to actively market the space to other tenants, to try to lessen the burden on the former tenant. So if Staples is correct, Arnett theoretically couldn't just sit there and eat bonbons waiting on his check for 3 years.

 

[Darryl Steight]

It’s not like he’s forfeited the money by taking another job. He’s guaranteed to get whatever the buyout is.

In the scenario Staples laid out, (a) he has to try to get another job, and (b) that money would be deducted from his buyout.

I still think all this is a moot point right now, because we'll win at least 5 games.

 

[Darryl Steight]

I think you meant "become relevant in college football".

He was very relevant... as a defensive coordinator. Jury is still out past that.

 

[thatsbaseball]

If we end up with five wins the real loss here won't be the buyout it will be the cost of wasting a year in recruiting and team development on a lame duck coach.

 

[columbiadawg2]

Just bought Powerball tickets so don't worry fellas. I'll cover Arnett's buyout and get Caleb Williams to come for his last year of eligibility (as well as every handpicked starter across the country.

 

[mcdawg22]

1.5 million a year for 3 years with mitigation for future earnings from another coaching job is pretty cheap. If he took another job might only cost $500,000 a year for 3 years. I expected a bigger buyout. Less would be better but you know how this crap goes. Look at Orgeron and Mullen. I know he ain't them but these coaches are raking it in

Mullen and Orgeron were commodities at the time of their contract signings. The buyout is a leverage to prevent other schools from poaching them. Nobody was knocking on the door to grab Arnett and no reasonable person would expect that after 2023 a school would come courting. If Arnett went 11-1 this year we would completely renegotiate his contract so the buyout on the current contract would be moot.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Tbh he was never that good of a DC. What was the highest overall defense ranking ? Maybe 35 ? If you are in the SEC you need a top 20 ranked defense. He was no Peter Sirmon but nothing to brag about

 

[Drebin]

LOL! I love it when people do this kind of thing.

What kind a thing? Calling you on your BS? I love it too.

 

[blitz2Win]

Tbh he was never that good of a DC. What was the highest overall defense ranking ? Maybe 35 ? If you are in the SEC you need a top 20 ranked defense. He was no Peter Sirmon but nothing to brag about

Right. I think his D was 7th in the sec last year. After this debacle this year I would not be surprised to see him pop up somewhere as DC like Nevada or Mountain West.