SEC schools to get about $51.3M each for '22-23
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey announced Thursday the conference will distribute $741 million to its 14 member universities, with about $51.3 million going to each school for the 2022-23 fiscal year.
lol what are you claiming I am pushing in a post without a body?These are facts. If you want to do what the OP wants and is pushing, we aren’t going to have non-revenue sports.
Just judging by your posts the other day. Don’t deny you were posting that sort of like one of those passive aggressive Facebook posts. Come on manelol what are you claiming I am pushing in a post without a body?
Why don't you tell me what you think I am pushing? It's possible you are mistaken. For example, I am not against non-revenue sports, if that's what you are claiming. (I don't know what you are claiming.)Just judging by your posts the other day. Don’t deny you were posting that sort of like one of those passive aggressive Facebook posts. Come on mane
Geez. You said you’re a hardcore capitalist and want the schools to pay for everything. You were complaining about them asking for donations.Why don't you tell me what you think I am pushing? It's possible you are mistaken. For example, I am not against non-revenue sports, if that's what you are claiming. (I don't know what you are claiming.)
You might say, "Are you saying X?" And I might respond, "No, I'm not saying that."
How did non revenue sports get funded prior to the tv money? I remember not too long ago when our total athletic budget was less than what we get now in just tv money. It’s not an unreasonable take for someone to say the tv money should be paying any NIL the players get. Hell I think even the athletic departments want that.Geez. You said you’re a hardcore capitalist and want the schools to pay for everything. You were complaining about them asking for donations.
Bottom line, folks like you either need to be happy with the current system of NIL paying football and basketball players, or admit you want to cut the non-revenue sports (so the schools can pay the football and basketball players, thus the fans/alimni/boosters don’t have to - even though they still will).
Can’t have it both ways bro. The money will run out.
It was a lot cheaper. You don’t remember all the talks about LT keeping us in the black around 2007? Byrne kinda put us in the red until the donations picked up and TV revenue started coming in.How did non revenue sports get funded prior to the tv money? I remember not too long ago when our total athletic budget was less than what we get now in just tv money. It’s not an unreasonable take for someone to say the tv money should be paying any NIL the players get. Hell I think even the athletic departments want that.
The TV money SHOULD be paying the athletes salaries. But it can’t under the current rules. It can pay everything we contribute to Bulldog Club for. Anyone contributing to bulldog Club is wasting their money when it could be put to much better use by Bulldog InitiativeHow did non revenue sports get funded prior to the tv money? I remember not too long ago when our total athletic budget was less than what we get now in just tv money. It’s not an unreasonable take for someone to say the tv money should be paying any NIL the players get. Hell I think even the athletic departments want that.
Only if you want non revenue to become basically club sports with no scholarships.The TV money SHOULD be paying the athletes salaries. But it can’t under the current rules. It can pay everything we contribute to Bulldog Club for. Anyone contributing to bulldog Club is wasting their money when it could be put to much better use by Bulldog Initiative
It doesn’t matter what we want. I don’t want to contribute to paying athletes who can transfer at any time either. In the real world, there’s no reason to contribute to Bulldog Club and not Bulldog Initiative. Screw seating. You can move to another cheaper seat or buy tickets cheap on the secondary market. Those are just facts.Only if you want non revenue to become basically club sports with no scholarships.
TV money is now taking up the BC shortage, which now goes to NIL.
Man if yall get what you want, things will change. BIG time
We are talking different things. I don’t disagree with what you say. But the reality is they can transfer, and that’s not changing. So you specifically just have to not pay.It doesn’t matter what we want. I don’t want to contribute to paying athletes who can transfer at any time either. In the real world, there’s no reason to contribute to Bulldog Club and not Bulldog Initiative. Screw seating. You can move to another cheaper seat or buy tickets cheap on the secondary market. Those are just facts.
The question is are we going to compete or not. If you don’t pay, you’re going to be Vanderbilt, or worse.We are talking different things. I don’t disagree with what you say. But the reality is they can transfer, and that’s not changing. So you specifically just have to not pay.
You move to an employee system and college athletics is dead.
Maybe so. What’s best overall and what’s best for MSU are different things.The question is are we going to compete or not. If you don’t pay, you’re going to be Vanderbilt, or worse.
Very different things. I want what’s best overall. But I know that’s not gonna happen. So I hold my nose and let Bulldog Initiative draft my contribution monthly.Maybe so. What’s best overall and what’s best for MSU are different things.
I wasn't complaining about donations. I said that if you are donating, it makes sense to direct at least some of your donation to the Bulldog Initiative.Geez. You said you’re a hardcore capitalist and want the schools to pay for everything. You were complaining about them asking for donations.
The question is are we going to compete or not. If you don’t pay, you’re going to be Vanderbilt, or worse.
I have no clue how many people we have giving $1-1.5k/year, but if it were 10k people, that would be $10-15 million/year (on top of whatever big donors are giving). Would that not have an on-field impact?![]()
Me paying 'just a cup of coffee a day' or whatever the 17 amount, will not keep us from becoming Vandy.
10,000 of us doing that also won't keep us from becoming Vandy.
Furthermore, it won't make us UGA or Bama.
I have 0 confidence that MSU is just $10 or $15MM away from competing for the top few spots in the conference, much less a CFP spot.I have no clue how many people we have giving $1-1.5k/year, but if it were 10k people, that would be $10-15 million/year (on top of whatever big donors are giving). Would that not have an on-field impact?
This is each school’s cut of the conference revenue only (mainly TV money). Every SEC athletic department’s revenue and expenses are north of $100 million/year.Does all athletics revenue go to the SEC for redistribution? Doesn't each school keep gate and concessions? Is there a gate split for home and away games? I also thought you get an extra percentage of bowl money for the one you attend? All that isn't part of the 51Mil, right?
The TV money supports all athletics, and you’d be surprised to see that’s it’s not all that much left over. These people that want the school to play players simply don’t get it.
These are facts. If you want to do what the OP wants and is pushing, we aren’t going to have non-revenue sports.
Yes, but you don't have to be. You decide your level of commitment. Again, the big boosters are doing the heavy lifting, and are choosing to hand over their money to recruits.Fans are being cucked.
Probably sitting in an account somewhere earning interest. Glad we had it during COVID. Thanks Cohen.MSU athletics pocketed $8.203 million net profit last year on $109 million revenue. We spent a total of $1.12 million on recruiting expenses.
Ole Miss pocketed $0 net profit last year on $123 million revenue. They spent a total of $1.91 million on recruiting expenses.
State has “rainy day funded” money like this at about this yearly level for as long as I’ve been a fan and known where to find the data… since at least the start of the Mullen era.
Where is all of that money and what is it being used for? What is the plan for it?
No kidding. I've got news for you. We haven't been just $10-15MM away from competing on even terms with the elite schools in the conference in the last 100 years (inflation adjusted), and we won't be for the next 100 years either. But we'll be a hell of a lot more competitive against the middle tier teams (and sometimes even the elite) with 10,000 people giving $50/month than we will be without them.I have 0 confidence that MSU is just $10 or $15MM away from competing for the top few spots in the conference, much less a CFP spot.
Also, I don't think not having $10 or $15MM would, on its own, make us terrible.
I think more than just money is keeping MSU football from competing for a top spot in the conference or CFP.
But if you think it will make a difference, then give up drinking coffee.
Typical Mississippi State stupidity. Our neighbors to the northwest get it. They don't have all the resources the elite schools do, but by damn, they're going to compete as well as they can.MSU athletics pocketed $8.203 million net profit last year on $109 million revenue. We spent a total of $1.12 million on recruiting expenses.
Ole Miss pocketed $0 net profit last year on $123 million revenue. They spent a total of $1.91 million on recruiting expenses.
State has “rainy day funded” money like this at about this yearly level for as long as I’ve been a fan and known where to find the data… since at least the start of the Mullen era.
Where is all of that money and what is it being used for? What is the plan for it?
Probably just a checking account that's still earning 0.05% interest.Probably sitting in an account somewhere earning interest. Glad we had it during COVID. Thanks Cohen.
No kidding. I've got news for you. We haven't been just $10-15MM away from competing on even terms with the elite schools in the conference in the last 100 years (inflation adjusted), and we won't be for the next 100 years either. But we'll be a hell of a lot more competitive against the middle tier teams (and sometimes even the elite) with 10,000 people giving $50/month than we will be without them.
Interesting (to me) side point. Back in the old days, when you talk about the elites - they had some things in common - big stadiums, fans that showed up to those stadiums consistently, and lived and breathed football. This created a great culture, and an environment where football could thrive. Coaches and players are attracted to this.Typical Mississippi State stupidity. Our neighbors to the northwest get it. They don't have all the resources the elite schools do, but by damn, they're going to compete as well as they can.
My opinion is Mississippi will never truly be on par with the elites. They simply don't have the fanbase or the money. But they'll do a much better job than we will of being very competitive in that 2nd tier behind the elites (say top 15-25 schools) than we will based on what I'm seeing from both schools the last couple of years.Interesting (to me) side point. Back in the old days, when you talk about the elites - they had some things in common - big stadiums, fans that showed up to those stadiums consistently, and lived and breathed football. This created a great culture, and an environment where football could thrive. Coaches and players are attracted to this.
Money has always been a part, but now we've injected a little more with legal NIL. But it's just a part.
Ole Miss certainly has better culture than us (you can tell this easily by the fact that they've been able to attract better players over the years), but they still have a smaller fanbase than the elites. They are attempting to bridge that gap with bigger money. I'm curious how the equation plays out, and if they can get on par with the elites without having the overall fanbase.
I guess Oregon has done it.
MS schools have two ways to get on par with the elites:My opinion is Mississippi will never truly be on par with the elites. They simply don't have the fanbase or the money. But they'll do a much better job than we will of being very competitive in that 2nd tier behind the elites (say top 15-25 schools) than we will based on what I'm seeing from both schools the last couple of years.
No kidding. I've got news for you. We haven't been just $10-15MM away from competing on even terms with the elite schools in the conference in the last 100 years (inflation adjusted), and we won't be for the next 100 years either. But we'll be a hell of a lot more competitive against the middle tier teams (and sometimes even the elite) with 10,000 people giving $50/month than we will be without them.
Exactly. I've never understood the approach, "If we can't be Alabama or Georgia, what's the point?"No kidding. I've got news for you. We haven't been just $10-15MM away from competing on even terms with the elite schools in the conference in the last 100 years (inflation adjusted), and we won't be for the next 100 years either. But we'll be a hell of a lot more competitive against the middle tier teams (and sometimes even the elite) with 10,000 people giving $50/month than we will be without them.
That's part of what's funding future stadium/arena expansions & upgrades. Glad we're saving some.MSU athletics pocketed $8.203 million net profit last year on $109 million revenue. We spent a total of $1.12 million on recruiting expenses.
Ole Miss pocketed $0 net profit last year on $123 million revenue. They spent a total of $1.91 million on recruiting expenses.
State has “rainy day funded” money like this at about this yearly level for as long as I’ve been a fan and known where to find the data… since at least the start of the Mullen era.
Where is all of that money and what is it being used for? What is the plan for it?
Well the future is now. The west side is due. Bleachers have been there since 1920s, the chairbacks and quarter deck are from 1985.That's part of what's funding future stadium/arena expansions & upgrades. Glad we're saving some.