A Bumpy Win: PSU 31, Boise St 14

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Good:

Fatman > Heisman (nominee) -- Kaytron Allen (17 rush, 134 yds) should have been player of the game, IMO. Warren had two TD catches, yes, but Allen was the key to the offense as Boise State could not stop him.

Allen struggled for much of the regular season, at one point leading some pundits to say Nick Singleton had clearly become the #1 RB. However, Allen has played the best football of his career over the past three games, displaying improved speed, cutting ability, and especially grinding yards after initial contact.

"2nd Team" All-American -- On a day where the pass game was... well, more on that later... let's just say it's a damn good thing Tyler Warren is 6'6" and ridiculously good.

Opposing defenses have been selling out to shutdown Warren, and they still can't do it as he hauled in 6 catches for 63 yards and two spectacular TD grabs. It's equal parts insulting and hilarious that Warren was relegated to 2nd Team All-American. GTFO of here with that garbage!

O-line -- Penn State netted 216 rushing yards, despite heavy blitzing from Boise State. We can't undersell the degree of control the Nittany Lions have exerted over opposing defenses this year. They're the unsung heroes of this 13-2 (and counting) season.

Middling:

Still waiting for the 5⭐ -- I debated whether Drew Allar was "middling" or "poor" in this game.

Once again, in a big game, Drew looked pretty lost. His throwing mechanics were atrocious, and Boise State was able to figure out what many of us have known for 2 years now: if you blitz Drew Allar, he panics and becomes virtually incapable of making good decisions.

Drew made enough plays to keep the offense going, including 3 spectacular TD passes. But let's face some harsh facts: Allar had yet another game where he barely completed 50% of his pass attempts, and he frequently threw high, behind, and long on his targets.

15 games into the season, it's fair to ask: "Why hasn't Drew Allar been coached to pick up and react to the blitz?" And if he HAS been properly coached, "Why can't he do it?"

Defense -- There were radical momentum shifts in this game. Penn State defense sold out to stop Ashton Jeanty, and was largely successful in that endeavor, limiting a guy dubbed "a generational talent" to just 3.5 yards per carry, and only allowing him to break off one "big" run that went for 26 yards. If you remove that outlying data point, Jeanty's average y/c crashes to just 2.6!

However, mediocre-at-best QB Maddux Madsen threw for over 300 yards, and completed 65% of his passes. His receivers were WIDE open all day as the PSU secondary played a marshmallowy soft zone, effectively allowing Boise State to make catches, and surrendering chunk yardage that resulted in the Broncos racking up 412 yards of total offense (ultimately out-gaining the Nittany Lions).

PSU did make Madsen pay with 3 picks, and won the turnover war 4-1, but the offense turned those colossal mistakes in for a grand total of 0 points. More on that later.

Abdul Carter was injured in the game and unable to play the entire second half. His absence was apparent, and there was a sense that the Penn State D was treading water much of the time. They were definitely looking tired in the second half, though the tackling was much improved this week.

Boise State remained very much in this game until late in the 4th.

Bad:

Play-calling? Hello? Bueller? -- When an opposing defense brings the blitz on every snap, your QB can't pick it up, and you insist on hurling the ball down field (ignoring the fact that your run game is dominating), you have to wonder what the coaches aren't seeing.

Andy Kotelnicki's refusal to call quick slant patterns (the kind Boise State and Oregon used effectively against Penn State) was, at a minimum, confusing.

It seemed like he was determined to stick to what he wanted to do, regardless of what the Bronco defense was doing. No doubt a good many of us were shouting at our TVs, “Take what they’re giving you!”

There are ways to deal with a perpetually blitzing D and the Penn State offense could not figure it out. This is a MAJOR problem, and has been dating back to last year.

Beau Pribula could have put this game out of reach early with his mobility. This is one example of how bad this offense misses him. Not saying he's better than Drew, but I am saying he's better equipped to deal with aggressive blitz packages.

As previously mentioned, the Penn State offense turned 4 Boise State turnovers into 0 points. This is inexcusable, and it should be raising the eyebrows of even the biggest apologist fans.

You can absolutely argue that there was a lack of execution on the part of the players, but I would say that's a pretty blind take.

AK struggled to find plays that could solve a defense that, let's be honest... it's the G5 representative, for crying out loud! This offense should have rolled all day, and instead our QB looked incredibly shaky much of the time.

After jumping out to a 14-0 lead, Penn State fumbled away the ball on their 3rd possession, then punted on 5 of their next 7 possessions before finally icing the game with 4:54 remaining in the 4th quarter.

Absolutely credit Boise State for playing over their heads. But we need better consistency on both sides of the ball in order to punch our ticket to the championship game.

In the meantime, here's hoping Abdul Carter will be healthy, and WE ARE...!
 
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Get used to the idea that games at these levels are now similar to the NFL in that all teams have their “dudes” so expect imperfect plays and struggles at times. Bottom line now is, I don’t give a damn about how it looks, but did we outscore the other team? If we get a “perfect” game, then, great, but the theme in the playoffs is scoring, so strap on your offensive pants because these teams can score.
 

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Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
 
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Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
The biggest issue for me wasn’t that Drew was lost, but that we didn’t have blitz check downs for him to utilize. We knew they would blitz as that is the only way they could get a decent pass rush, yet we didn’t utilize any quick slants or screens to neutralize that pressure. On each of the sacks on Drew, all of our receivers were running at least 10-15 yard routes.
 

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"2nd Team" All-American -- On a day where the pass game was... well, more on that later... let's just say it's a damn good thing Tyler Warren is 6'6" and ridiculously good.

Opposing defenses have been selling out to shutdown Warren, and they still can't do it as he hauled in 6 catches for 63 yards and two spectacular TD grabs. It's equal parts insulting and hilarious that Warren was relegated to 2nd Team All-American. GTFO of here with that garbage!
I don't understand how it's any sort of an insult that Fannin and Warren seemed to split the awards. Here are the current numbers (not taking the time to back out games after they were announced)...

Warren (15 games)
98 catches for 1158 yards and 8 TDs
24 carries for 197 yards and 4 TDs
3/6 passing for 35 yards and 1 TD
1 punt for 16 yards

Fannin (14 games)
117 catches for 1555 yards and 10 TDs
9 carries for 65 yards and 1 TD
1/2 for 9 yards
No punts

Warren was great. Fannin was great. Nothing at all "insulting" or "hilarious" about picking either one over the other.
 
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Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
We wose more games than any other fan base in America.
 

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How many dropped passes were there genius. Did it ever occur to you that Allar’s “poor mechanics” were the result of pressure (see in particular the first TD pass). Interesting how I saw another thread claiming pro scouts were trying to convince him to change his mind and go pro after the game. As the old saying goes opinions are like you know what—everyone has one.
Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
Exactly. See my other post. Geez.
 
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The biggest issue for me wasn’t that Drew was lost, but that we didn’t have blitz check downs for him to utilize. We knew they would blitz as that is the only way they could get a decent pass rush, yet we didn’t utilize any quick slants or screens to neutralize that pressure. On each of the sacks on Drew, all of our receivers were running at least 10-15 yard routes.
Yes I thought the same thing but that’s not on Allar.
 
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I don't understand how it's any sort of an insult that Fannin and Warren seemed to split the awards. Here are the current numbers (not taking the time to back out games after they were announced)...

Warren (15 games)
98 catches for 1158 yards and 8 TDs
24 carries for 197 yards and 4 TDs
3/6 passing for 35 yards and 1 TD
1 punt for 16 yards

Fannin (14 games)
117 catches for 1555 yards and 10 TDs
9 carries for 65 yards and 1 TD
1/2 for 9 yards
No punts

Warren was great. Fannin was great. Nothing at all "insulting" or "hilarious" about picking either one over the other.
You can’t be serious.
 

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Under valuing the importance of stopping Jeanty. Once the game got to a 3-score margin and Boise became pass first, Madsen's effectiveness dwindled greatly.

Do agree that Allan was deserving of the Offensive MVP. Thought Vanover could have been the defensive MVP, but I don't want to take away from the way Wheatley played.

Allar was fine. I little high on the intermediate passes. O-line was good. A little better blitz pick-up needed. Focus on a hot read shold be a big part of the practice week. Especially if Notre Dame is the next opponent.

Been a great year and a fun ride.
 

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Good:

Fatman > Heisman (nominee) -- Kaytron Allen (17 rush, 134 yds) should have been player of the game, IMO. Warren had two TD catches, yes, but Allen was the key to the offense as Boise State could not stop him.

Allen struggled for much of the regular season, at one point leading some pundits to say Nick Singleton had clearly become the #1 RB. However, Allen has played the best football of his career over the past three games, displaying improved speed, cutting ability, and especially grinding yards after initial contact.

"2nd Team" All-American -- On a day where the pass game was... well, more on that later... let's just say it's a damn good thing Tyler Warren is 6'6" and ridiculously good.

Opposing defenses have been selling out to shutdown Warren, and they still can't do it as he hauled in 6 catches for 63 yards and two spectacular TD grabs. It's equal parts insulting and hilarious that Warren was relegated to 2nd Team All-American. GTFO of here with that garbage!

O-line -- Penn State netted 216 rushing yards, despite heavy blitzing from Boise State. We can't undersell the degree of control the Nittany Lions have exerted over opposing defenses this year. They're the unsung heroes of this 13-2 (and counting) season.

Middling:

Still waiting for the 5⭐ -- I debated whether Drew Allar was "middling" or "poor" in this game.

Once again, in a big game, Drew looked pretty lost. His throwing mechanics were atrocious, and Boise State was able to figure out what many of us have known for 2 years now: if you blitz Drew Allar, he panics and becomes virtually incapable of making good decisions.

Drew made enough plays to keep the offense going, including 3 spectacular TD passes. But let's face some harsh facts: Allar had yet another game where he barely completed 50% of his pass attempts, and he frequently threw high, behind, and long on his targets.

15 games into the season, it's fair to ask: "Why hasn't Drew Allar been coached to pick up and react to the blitz?" And if he HAS been properly coached, "Why can't he do it?"

Defense -- There were radical momentum shifts in this game. Penn State defense sold out to stop Ashton Jeanty, and was largely successful in that endeavor, limiting a guy dubbed "a generational talent" to just 3.5 yards per carry, and only allowing him to break off one "big" run that went for 26 yards. If you remove that outlying data point, Jeanty's average y/c crashes to just 2.6!

However, mediocre-at-best QB Maddux Madsen threw for over 300 yards, and completed 65% of his passes. His receivers were WIDE open all day as the PSU secondary played a marshmallowy soft zone, effectively allowing Boise State to make catches, and surrendering chunk yardage that resulted in the Broncos racking up 412 yards of total offense (ultimately out-gaining the Nittany Lions).

PSU did make Madsen pay with 3 picks, and won the turnover war 4-1, but the offense turned those colossal mistakes in for a grand total of 0 points. More on that later.

Abdul Carter was injured in the game and unable to play the entire second half. His absence was apparent, and there was a sense that the Penn State D was treading water much of the time. They were definitely looking tired in the second half, though the tackling was much improved this week.

Boise State remained very much in this game until late in the 4th.

Bad:

Play-calling? Hello? Bueller? -- When an opposing defense brings the blitz on every snap, your QB can't pick it up, and you insist on hurling the ball down field (ignoring the fact that your run game is dominating), you have to wonder what the coaches aren't seeing.

Andy Kotelnicki's refusal to call quick slant patterns (the kind Boise State and Oregon used effectively against Penn State) was, at a minimum, confusing.

It seemed like he was determined to stick to what he wanted to do, regardless of what the Bronco defense was doing. No doubt a good many of us were shouting at our TVs, “Take what they’re giving you!”

There are ways to deal with a perpetually blitzing D and the Penn State offense could not figure it out. This is a MAJOR problem, and has been dating back to last year.

Beau Pribula could have put this game out of reach early with his mobility. This is one example of how bad this offense misses him. Not saying he's better than Drew, but I am saying he's better equipped to deal with aggressive blitz packages.

As previously mentioned, the Penn State offense turned 4 Boise State turnovers into 0 points. This is inexcusable, and it should be raising the eyebrows of even the biggest apologist fans.

You can absolutely argue that there was a lack of execution on the part of the players, but I would say that's a pretty blind take.

AK struggled to find plays that could solve a defense that, let's be honest... it's the G5 representative, for crying out loud! This offense should have rolled all day, and instead our QB looked incredibly shaky much of the time.

After jumping out to a 14-0 lead, Penn State fumbled away the ball on their 3rd possession, then punted on 5 of their next 7 possessions before finally icing the game with 4:54 remaining in the 4th quarter.

Absolutely credit Boise State for playing over their heads. But we need better consistency on both sides of the ball in order to punch our ticket to the championship game.

In the meantime, here's hoping Abdul Carter will be healthy, and WE ARE...!
Warren uncharacteristically dropped two passes. Wallace dropped one in the endzone, albeit great coverage, but it hit him in the hands. The kid from OSU catches that ball. There may have been more. He did sail one ball over Warren’s head too, but overall his passes were spot on. My biggest issue is him taking sacks. He has to recognize coverages and blitzes and, at the very least, throw it out of bounds and live to fight another day.
 

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Warren uncharacteristically dropped two passes. Wallace dropped one in the endzone, albeit great coverage, but it hit him in the hands. The kid from OSU catches that ball. There may have been more. He did sail one ball over Warren’s head too, but overall his passes were spot on. My biggest issue is him taking sacks. He has to recognize coverages and blitzes and, at the very least, throw it out of bounds and live to fight another day.
All fair points about getting rid of the ball....and he's coming back so that is something he has to work on. The funny thing is I just got out of my car and ESPN radio had the top 5 players who elevated their draft stock. Drew was #2 behind Jerimiah Smith at tOSU who as a frosh may be the best player in the nation or have the most potential.

They mentioned that Drew has to clean up taking the sacks, but 2 of the 3 TD throws were legit NFL TD throws. He's not a finished product, but if he can grow in year 2 to 3 as a starter as he did form year 1 to 2....he'll be a top 10 pick next year. Hell they actually mentioned that some scouts think he made a mistake by announcing his return after the last 2 games. Not my words...someone else's, but this notion that he was lost is over the top. They could have pounded the rock some more and won easier, but that didn't occur...we won.
 

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Good:

Fatman > Heisman (nominee) -- Kaytron Allen (17 rush, 134 yds) should have been player of the game, IMO. Warren had two TD catches, yes, but Allen was the key to the offense as Boise State could not stop him.

Allen struggled for much of the regular season, at one point leading some pundits to say Nick Singleton had clearly become the #1 RB. However, Allen has played the best football of his career over the past three games, displaying improved speed, cutting ability, and especially grinding yards after initial contact.

"2nd Team" All-American -- On a day where the pass game was... well, more on that later... let's just say it's a damn good thing Tyler Warren is 6'6" and ridiculously good.

Opposing defenses have been selling out to shutdown Warren, and they still can't do it as he hauled in 6 catches for 63 yards and two spectacular TD grabs. It's equal parts insulting and hilarious that Warren was relegated to 2nd Team All-American. GTFO of here with that garbage!

O-line -- Penn State netted 216 rushing yards, despite heavy blitzing from Boise State. We can't undersell the degree of control the Nittany Lions have exerted over opposing defenses this year. They're the unsung heroes of this 13-2 (and counting) season.

Middling:

Still waiting for the 5⭐ -- I debated whether Drew Allar was "middling" or "poor" in this game.

Once again, in a big game, Drew looked pretty lost. His throwing mechanics were atrocious, and Boise State was able to figure out what many of us have known for 2 years now: if you blitz Drew Allar, he panics and becomes virtually incapable of making good decisions.

Drew made enough plays to keep the offense going, including 3 spectacular TD passes. But let's face some harsh facts: Allar had yet another game where he barely completed 50% of his pass attempts, and he frequently threw high, behind, and long on his targets.

15 games into the season, it's fair to ask: "Why hasn't Drew Allar been coached to pick up and react to the blitz?" And if he HAS been properly coached, "Why can't he do it?"

Defense -- There were radical momentum shifts in this game. Penn State defense sold out to stop Ashton Jeanty, and was largely successful in that endeavor, limiting a guy dubbed "a generational talent" to just 3.5 yards per carry, and only allowing him to break off one "big" run that went for 26 yards. If you remove that outlying data point, Jeanty's average y/c crashes to just 2.6!

However, mediocre-at-best QB Maddux Madsen threw for over 300 yards, and completed 65% of his passes. His receivers were WIDE open all day as the PSU secondary played a marshmallowy soft zone, effectively allowing Boise State to make catches, and surrendering chunk yardage that resulted in the Broncos racking up 412 yards of total offense (ultimately out-gaining the Nittany Lions).

PSU did make Madsen pay with 3 picks, and won the turnover war 4-1, but the offense turned those colossal mistakes in for a grand total of 0 points. More on that later.

Abdul Carter was injured in the game and unable to play the entire second half. His absence was apparent, and there was a sense that the Penn State D was treading water much of the time. They were definitely looking tired in the second half, though the tackling was much improved this week.

Boise State remained very much in this game until late in the 4th.

Bad:

Play-calling? Hello? Bueller? -- When an opposing defense brings the blitz on every snap, your QB can't pick it up, and you insist on hurling the ball down field (ignoring the fact that your run game is dominating), you have to wonder what the coaches aren't seeing.

Andy Kotelnicki's refusal to call quick slant patterns (the kind Boise State and Oregon used effectively against Penn State) was, at a minimum, confusing.

It seemed like he was determined to stick to what he wanted to do, regardless of what the Bronco defense was doing. No doubt a good many of us were shouting at our TVs, “Take what they’re giving you!”

There are ways to deal with a perpetually blitzing D and the Penn State offense could not figure it out. This is a MAJOR problem, and has been dating back to last year.

Beau Pribula could have put this game out of reach early with his mobility. This is one example of how bad this offense misses him. Not saying he's better than Drew, but I am saying he's better equipped to deal with aggressive blitz packages.

As previously mentioned, the Penn State offense turned 4 Boise State turnovers into 0 points. This is inexcusable, and it should be raising the eyebrows of even the biggest apologist fans.

You can absolutely argue that there was a lack of execution on the part of the players, but I would say that's a pretty blind take.

AK struggled to find plays that could solve a defense that, let's be honest... it's the G5 representative, for crying out loud! This offense should have rolled all day, and instead our QB looked incredibly shaky much of the time.

After jumping out to a 14-0 lead, Penn State fumbled away the ball on their 3rd possession, then punted on 5 of their next 7 possessions before finally icing the game with 4:54 remaining in the 4th quarter.

Absolutely credit Boise State for playing over their heads. But we need better consistency on both sides of the ball in order to punch our ticket to the championship game.

In the meantime, here's hoping Abdul Carter will be healthy, and WE ARE...!
lets also be fair to Drew that he should have had another TD before the half. He threw 2 very good deep balls that were dropped.
 
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All fair points about getting rid of the ball....and he's coming back so that is something he has to work on. The funny thing is I just got out of my car and ESPN radio had the top 5 players who elevated their draft stock. Drew was #2 behind Jerimiah Smith at tOSU who as a frosh may be the best player in the nation or have the most potential.

They mentioned that Drew has to clean up taking the sacks, but 2 of the 3 TD throws were legit NFL TD throws. He's not a finished product, but if he can grow in year 2 to 3 as a starter as he did form year 1 to 2....he'll be a top 10 pick next year. Hell they actually mentioned that some scouts think he made a mistake by announcing his return after the last 2 games. Not my words...someone else's, but this notion that he was lost is over the top. They could have pounded the rock some more and won easier, but that didn't occur...we won.
Agreed. He absolutely can make NFL throws. The two TDs to Warren were NFL ready QB throws.
 
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The biggest issue for me wasn’t that Drew was lost, but that we didn’t have blitz check downs for him to utilize. We knew they would blitz as that is the only way they could get a decent pass rush, yet we didn’t utilize any quick slants or screens to neutralize that pressure. On each of the sacks on Drew, all of our receivers were running at least 10-15 yard routes.
Absolutely agree on the check downs. not one pass to Nick or Allen. And I know that AK doesn't like screens but maybe he should start to consider them.
 

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Ak isn’t calling screens or slants or short passes in general because he thinks there is a problem with it? Can’t imagine another reason why he wouldn’t call more with singleton as your screen pass guy and short middle to offset the blitz. It really didn’t make sense against Boise.
 
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Warren uncharacteristically dropped two passes. Wallace dropped one in the endzone, albeit great coverage, but it hit him in the hands. The kid from OSU catches that ball. There may have been more. He did sail one ball over Warren’s head too, but overall his passes were spot on. My biggest issue is him taking sacks. He has to recognize coverages and blitzes and, at the very least, throw it out of bounds and live to fight another day.
PSU has the weakest wide receivers I have seen in these playoffs. Something needs to change with that as it wasn't too long ago we were consistently having receivers not only drafted but as of now producing very well in the NFL.
 

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PSU has the weakest wide receivers I have seen in these playoffs. Something needs to change with that as it wasn't too long ago we were consistently having receivers not only drafted but as of now producing very well in the NFL.
UGA WRs are not great either but probably better as a unit than PSU.
 
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All fair points about getting rid of the ball....and he's coming back so that is something he has to work on. The funny thing is I just got out of my car and ESPN radio had the top 5 players who elevated their draft stock. Drew was #2 behind Jerimiah Smith at tOSU who as a frosh may be the best player in the nation or have the most potential.

They mentioned that Drew has to clean up taking the sacks, but 2 of the 3 TD throws were legit NFL TD throws. He's not a finished product, but if he can grow in year 2 to 3 as a starter as he did form year 1 to 2....he'll be a top 10 pick next year. Hell they actually mentioned that some scouts think he made a mistake by announcing his return after the last 2 games. Not my words...someone else's, but this notion that he was lost is over the top. They could have pounded the rock some more and won easier, but that didn't occur...we won.
If Drew comes back, they can make another run next year. If not, we will see, but it may be a few years until Grunk gets his feet under him.
 
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Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
He was 13-25. That isn't good. He was a deer in headlights against an aggressive blitz. He consistently threw with both feet under his hips instead of properly stepping into his throws. Tyler Warren's 2nd TD catch was all Warren. The throw from Drew was terrible, and Warren made an insane catch. Drew threw a bunch of passes intended for targets that are 8' tall.

I'm not sure how anyone came away from that game thinking Drew looked good.
 
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Not exactly sure how Drew looked lost. He threw some absolute dimes that WR's at other schools make the plays on, but PSU doesn't have WR's that make contested catches...just Warren. He was off on a couple throws and threw 1-2 away, but his TD passes were all great. He wasn't perfect but this idea he was bad or lost is someone wishing it were true I guess.
I heard a rumor that the teams we're competing against have started paying coaches millions and giving scholarships and NIL money to their players. What's next? Calling defenses to confuse and stymie our beloved Lions? I thought all opponents just hang around to be our props. Less than 100% execution is an outrage.
 
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The biggest issue for me wasn’t that Drew was lost, but that we didn’t have blitz check downs for him to utilize. We knew they would blitz as that is the only way they could get a decent pass rush, yet we didn’t utilize any quick slants or screens to neutralize that pressure. On each of the sacks on Drew, all of our receivers were running at least 10-15 yard routes.
On at least one blitz he had a receiver in :cool: the right flat so alone that if targeted would still be running. It looked like an easy completion and TD from where I was sitting.
 
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Warren uncharacteristically dropped two passes. Wallace dropped one in the endzone, albeit great coverage, but it hit him in the hands. The kid from OSU catches that ball. There may have been more. He did sail one ball over Warren’s head too, but overall his passes were spot on. My biggest issue is him taking sacks. He has to recognize coverages and blitzes and, at the very least, throw it out of bounds and live to fight another day.
Think Evans also missed one in the end zone
 

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On at least one blitz he had a receiver in :cool: the right flat so alone that if targeted would still be running. It looked like an easy completion and TD from where I was sitting.
Yeah he locks on to TW a bit too much in the blitz situations. Partially because the WR dont get any separation though.
 

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Absolutely agree on the check downs. not one pass to Nick or Allen. And I know that AK doesn't like screens but maybe he should start to consider them.
There was one blitz where he was sacked and Tyler was open 10 yards to his right facing him with no one around. Drew didn’t see him. Granted that it’s tough to see everyone when you have athletes unblocked racing right at you
 
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On at least one blitz he had a receiver in :cool: the right flat so alone that if targeted would still be running. It looked like an easy completion and TD from where I was sitting.
Same thing on the 3rd and 1 play. He had Warren open the entire time. Not sure what he was looking at or for?
 

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There was one blitz where he was sacked and Tyler was open 10 yards to his right facing him with no one around. Drew didn’t see him. Granted that it’s tough to see everyone when you have athletes unblocked racing right at you
LOL, just wrote the same thing regarding that play.
 
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He was 13-25. That isn't good. He was a deer in headlights against an aggressive blitz. He consistently threw with both feet under his hips instead of properly stepping into his throws. Tyler Warren's 2nd TD catch was all Warren. The throw from Drew was terrible, and Warren made an insane catch. Drew threw a bunch of passes intended for targets that are 8' tall.

I'm not sure how anyone came away from that game thinking Drew looked good.
You can’t make this **** up.
 

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COuple throw aways, a couple drops, a bit too high on some intermediate throws but overall a B game from Drew anyone who thinks worse has never played the position or coached it.
I think a B grade is fair possibly B- but nothing lower 3 td's and no Int's is nothing to scoff at. Not to mention he should have had at least one more TD before the half.
 

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Warren uncharacteristically dropped two passes. Wallace dropped one in the endzone, albeit great coverage, but it hit him in the hands. The kid from OSU catches that ball. There may have been more. He did sail one ball over Warren’s head too, but overall his passes were spot on. My biggest issue is him taking sacks. He has to recognize coverages and blitzes and, at the very least, throw it out of bounds and live to fight another day.
My guess is that they were ready for certain blitz packages. Boise likely put in new wrinkles that they weren't ready for. He either took the sack(s) where they were clearly out numbered and I don't recall him throwing risky stuff trying to salvage something from nothing. One decision that stood out was not giving the ball to Singleton on that fumbled exchange. Singleton may have been a gone Johnson
 
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My guess is that they were ready for certain blitz packages. Boise likely put in new wrinkles that they weren't ready for. He either took the sack(s) where they were clearly out numbered and I don't recall him throwing risky stuff trying to salvage something from nothing. One decision that stood out was not giving the ball to Singleton on that fumbled exchange. Singleton may have been a gone Johnson
+100. Singleton would have been gone and the game would have been over. IMO that was the single biggest game changing event. We were sooo close to knocking them out in the first quarter.
 

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Good:

Fatman > Heisman (nominee) -- Kaytron Allen (17 rush, 134 yds) should have been player of the game, IMO. Warren had two TD catches, yes, but Allen was the key to the offense as Boise State could not stop him.

Allen struggled for much of the regular season, at one point leading some pundits to say Nick Singleton had clearly become the #1 RB. However, Allen has played the best football of his career over the past three games, displaying improved speed, cutting ability, and especially grinding yards after initial contact.

"2nd Team" All-American -- On a day where the pass game was... well, more on that later... let's just say it's a damn good thing Tyler Warren is 6'6" and ridiculously good.

Opposing defenses have been selling out to shutdown Warren, and they still can't do it as he hauled in 6 catches for 63 yards and two spectacular TD grabs. It's equal parts insulting and hilarious that Warren was relegated to 2nd Team All-American. GTFO of here with that garbage!

O-line -- Penn State netted 216 rushing yards, despite heavy blitzing from Boise State. We can't undersell the degree of control the Nittany Lions have exerted over opposing defenses this year. They're the unsung heroes of this 13-2 (and counting) season.

Middling:

Still waiting for the 5⭐ -- I debated whether Drew Allar was "middling" or "poor" in this game.

Once again, in a big game, Drew looked pretty lost. His throwing mechanics were atrocious, and Boise State was able to figure out what many of us have known for 2 years now: if you blitz Drew Allar, he panics and becomes virtually incapable of making good decisions.

Drew made enough plays to keep the offense going, including 3 spectacular TD passes. But let's face some harsh facts: Allar had yet another game where he barely completed 50% of his pass attempts, and he frequently threw high, behind, and long on his targets.

15 games into the season, it's fair to ask: "Why hasn't Drew Allar been coached to pick up and react to the blitz?" And if he HAS been properly coached, "Why can't he do it?"

Defense -- There were radical momentum shifts in this game. Penn State defense sold out to stop Ashton Jeanty, and was largely successful in that endeavor, limiting a guy dubbed "a generational talent" to just 3.5 yards per carry, and only allowing him to break off one "big" run that went for 26 yards. If you remove that outlying data point, Jeanty's average y/c crashes to just 2.6!

However, mediocre-at-best QB Maddux Madsen threw for over 300 yards, and completed 65% of his passes. His receivers were WIDE open all day as the PSU secondary played a marshmallowy soft zone, effectively allowing Boise State to make catches, and surrendering chunk yardage that resulted in the Broncos racking up 412 yards of total offense (ultimately out-gaining the Nittany Lions).

PSU did make Madsen pay with 3 picks, and won the turnover war 4-1, but the offense turned those colossal mistakes in for a grand total of 0 points. More on that later.

Abdul Carter was injured in the game and unable to play the entire second half. His absence was apparent, and there was a sense that the Penn State D was treading water much of the time. They were definitely looking tired in the second half, though the tackling was much improved this week.

Boise State remained very much in this game until late in the 4th.

Bad:

Play-calling? Hello? Bueller? -- When an opposing defense brings the blitz on every snap, your QB can't pick it up, and you insist on hurling the ball down field (ignoring the fact that your run game is dominating), you have to wonder what the coaches aren't seeing.

Andy Kotelnicki's refusal to call quick slant patterns (the kind Boise State and Oregon used effectively against Penn State) was, at a minimum, confusing.

It seemed like he was determined to stick to what he wanted to do, regardless of what the Bronco defense was doing. No doubt a good many of us were shouting at our TVs, “Take what they’re giving you!”

There are ways to deal with a perpetually blitzing D and the Penn State offense could not figure it out. This is a MAJOR problem, and has been dating back to last year.

Beau Pribula could have put this game out of reach early with his mobility. This is one example of how bad this offense misses him. Not saying he's better than Drew, but I am saying he's better equipped to deal with aggressive blitz packages.

As previously mentioned, the Penn State offense turned 4 Boise State turnovers into 0 points. This is inexcusable, and it should be raising the eyebrows of even the biggest apologist fans.

You can absolutely argue that there was a lack of execution on the part of the players, but I would say that's a pretty blind take.

AK struggled to find plays that could solve a defense that, let's be honest... it's the G5 representative, for crying out loud! This offense should have rolled all day, and instead our QB looked incredibly shaky much of the time.

After jumping out to a 14-0 lead, Penn State fumbled away the ball on their 3rd possession, then punted on 5 of their next 7 possessions before finally icing the game with 4:54 remaining in the 4th quarter.

Absolutely credit Boise State for playing over their heads. But we need better consistency on both sides of the ball in order to punch our ticket to the championship game.

In the meantime, here's hoping Abdul Carter will be healthy, and WE ARE...!
I agree that Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head a bit.

I don't understand why we never threw to Singleton. That's a high % pass and it slows the defense from blitzing Allar.

PSU receivers dropped 4 catchable balls. It's not all Allar.

Maddux is a decent QB. He did as well as he did because PSU sold out to stop Jeanty.

I actually think that PSU/Allar hurts themselves at times by focusing too much on Warren.
 
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My guess is that they were ready for certain blitz packages. Boise likely put in new wrinkles that they weren't ready for. He either took the sack(s) where they were clearly out numbered and I don't recall him throwing risky stuff trying to salvage something from nothing. One decision that stood out was not giving the ball to Singleton on that fumbled exchange. Singleton may have been a gone Johnson
He doesn’t throw risky throws. However, he also does not throw the ball away to avoid the sack. He just turtles up and takes the big loss. He has to be able to diagnose that and not take the sack if they are going to be successful going forward and when he gets to the NFL. He can’t take bad sacks.
 

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I agree that Allar still needs to slow the game down in his head a bit.

I don't understand why we never threw to Singleton. That's a high % pass and it slows the defense from blitzing Allar.

PSU receivers dropped 4 catchable balls. It's not all Allar.

Maddux is a decent QB. He did as well as he did because PSU sold out to stop Jeanty.

I actually think that PSU/Allar hurts themselves at times by focusing too much on Warren.
Hes third on the team in receptions. A fair amount of those catches are on swing passes this year (USC for a TD when hurt) for 5-8 yards. He got more targets against OSU than even Warren I believe, so its not like its not in the playbook.
 

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Drew is doing alright, he isn’t Mahomes, and that’s ok. It’s his 3rd season, only second as a starter. Oregon’s QB has been playing college football for twice as long!
 

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All fair points about getting rid of the ball....and he's coming back so that is something he has to work on. The funny thing is I just got out of my car and ESPN radio had the top 5 players who elevated their draft stock. Drew was #2 behind Jerimiah Smith at tOSU who as a frosh may be the best player in the nation or have the most potential.

They mentioned that Drew has to clean up taking the sacks, but 2 of the 3 TD throws were legit NFL TD throws. He's not a finished product, but if he can grow in year 2 to 3 as a starter as he did form year 1 to 2....he'll be a top 10 pick next year. Hell they actually mentioned that some scouts think he made a mistake by announcing his return after the last 2 games. Not my words...someone else's, but this notion that he was lost is over the top. They could have pounded the rock some more and won easier, but that didn't occur...we won.
to be fair...Boise had one of the highest sack totals for the year. Tengwell pointed out the blitz packages employed by Boise and predicted that they would get sacks. If I recall, at least two of the sacks came from directly up the middle and Allar really had no chance. Like just about everyone else, I was surprised that we didn't have hot routes or some screen passes to slow down the blitzes.
Most, if not all, analysts have commented on the play calling during the game. It's still hard to understand what the coaches were trying to accomplish with their calls. It seemed like we were trying to make winning more difficult.
 

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to be fair...Boise had one of the highest sack totals for the year. Tengwell pointed out the blitz packages employed by Boise and predicted that they would get sacks. If I recall, at least two of the sacks came from directly up the middle and Allar really had no chance. Like just about everyone else, I was surprised that we didn't have hot routes or some screen passes to slow down the blitzes.
Most, if not all, analysts have commented on the play calling during the game. It's still hard to understand what the coaches were trying to accomplish with their calls. It seemed like we were trying to make winning more difficult.
The rub on Boise’s defense was their back 4 were weak. Looks like the game plan was to attack them, even when we were running successfully.