Abdul and weed

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I took it as they (should) have better things to do.
As someone who worked with the University Safety Office (albeit a few decades ago), I disagree.

A number of the alarms that had gone off are because a young woman was being attacked and all she could do was pull the alarm, to alert any kind of authority. Granted this was long before cell phones. Further, it (was) University Policy that police respond to any emergency call. I would imagine it's the same thing nowadays.

I don't have an issue with the police showing up for these things.
 

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As someone who worked with the University Safety Office (albeit a few decades ago), I disagree.

A number of the alarms that had gone off are because a young woman was being attacked and all she could do was pull the alarm, to alert any kind of authority. Granted this was long before cell phones. Further, it (was) University Policy that police respond to any emergency call. I would imagine it's the same thing nowadays.

I don't have an issue with the police showing up for these things.

Showing up? Sure. Busting for weed? Eh. I mean, if the alarm goes off, and I'm sure everyone heard it, how is it that Carter wasn't smart/clever enough to dispose of the evidence (flush down toilet, etc.)? How long does it take to respond to a dorm fire alarm? Or, how dumb are our players?
 

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Showing up? Sure. Busting for weed? Eh. I mean, if the alarm goes off, and I'm sure everyone heard it, how is it that Carter wasn't smart/clever enough to dispose of the evidence (flush down toilet, etc.)? How long does it take to respond to a dorm fire alarm? Or, how dumb are our players?
Is weed allowed on campus (I honestly do not know).

University Park is not part of SC, and is it's own governing entity, just like any other town. So, they have the latitude to decide what is and what isn't against the rules, because they set the rules.

I won't comment on the intelligence or lack therof of our players. All I can say is that the age of 18/19, I did many a dumb things (and still do them at the age of 58).
 
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Showing up? Sure. Busting for weed? Eh. I mean, if the alarm goes off, and I'm sure everyone heard it, how is it that Carter wasn't smart/clever enough to dispose of the evidence (flush down toilet, etc.)? How long does it take to respond to a dorm fire alarm? Or, how dumb are our players?

The cops do what they are told to do. If policy is to arrest, then blame the policy makers. The moments the cops deviate and something goes wrong, everyone will be out for their heads.
 

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It’s suspicious that it took a month for AC to be charged.

Is Franklin interfering in UP police matters to hide team misconduct?
 
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Do they really have better things to do than to respond to smoke alarms going off in a dorm?
It actually wasn't a dorm. It was in his on campus apartment at Nittany Apartments near Pollock. They're sort of 2 story townhouses. A warning easily could have been given, but perhaps it had been prior and this is the result.
 

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It actually wasn't a dorm. It was in his on campus apartment at Nittany Apartments near Pollock. They're sort of 2 story townhouses.

I partied with some players there one time for a pre-game Friday night and each player had their own 30 pack. This was just for pre-game. The amount of drugs and alcohol that have been ingested in that apartment complex is monumental.

That said, getting busted for smoking by setting off a smoke alarm is bush league AF.
 

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It actually wasn't a dorm. It was in his on campus apartment at Nittany Apartments near Pollock. They're sort of 2 story townhouses. A warning easily could have been given, but perhaps it had been prior and this is the result.
I thought I had read dorm, though I’m not sure it makes a difference. If you are dumb enough to do something illegal that forces the police to have to get involved, you deserve whatever the law says you can be charged with.
 
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I thought I had read dorm, though I’m not sure it makes a difference. If you are dumb enough to do something illegal that forces the police to have to get involved, you deserve whatever the law says you can be charged with.
It is on-campus University Housing. (aka: Dorm)


When the police showed up, and asked why the alarm may have gone off, the culprit told them why (at least according to the report)
 
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I’m pretty sure unis don’t decide whether or not to arrest.
 

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What's lost in this discussion is the sheer administrative and economic waste associated with a possession of a small amount of marijuana case. Although Carter can afford it, he now has to hire a lawyer and pay whatever fines and court costs may be applicable to a final disposition, if he gets ARD or Probation Without Verdict. If he's on probation, then a PO has his case to tack onto an already overwhelming caseload.

On top of that, the officer who filed the charges will typically receive overtime pay for "court time" when he attends the preliminary hearing and any other proceedings at the Court of Common Pleas. The officer in this case could have utilized some discretion and written it up as a summary disorderly conduct charge punishable by a fine.
 

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I thought I had read dorm, though I’m not sure it makes a difference. If you are dumb enough to do something illegal that forces the police to have to get involved, you deserve whatever the law says you can be charged with.
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It is on-campus University Housing. (aka: Dorm)


When the police showed up, and asked why the alarm may have gone off, the culprit told them why (at least according to the report)
Right. The kid smoked some weed that caused the alarm to go off that forced the police to go there. I have no issue with him getting cited for that.
 

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I partied with some players there one time for a pre-game Friday night and each player had their own 30 pack. This was just for pre-game. The amount of drugs and alcohol that have been ingested in that apartment complex is monumental.

That said, getting busted for smoking by setting off a smoke alarm is bush league AF.
A good friend of mine was friends with a roommate of a Syracuse fullback that later ended up winning Superbowls in the NFL. He said that he's never seen somebody smoke as much as that guy. Ever.
 
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A good friend of mine was friends with a roommate of a Syracuse fullback that later ended up winning Superbowls with the Cowboys. He said that he's never seen somebody smoke as much as that guy. Ever.

This was before I attended PSU and I remember crashing on this guy's couch and the dude kept his window open all night in the middle of the winter. It was crazy. Thank goodness he had a big old blanket for me to hide under.

Football players are crazy. I'm happy I have that one night to remember and story to tell, but it was too much for me.
 

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This was before I attended PSU and I remember crashing on this guy's couch and the dude kept his window open all night in the middle of the winter. It was crazy. Thank goodness he had a big old blanket for me to hide under.

Football players are crazy. I'm happy I have that one night to remember and story to tell, but it was too much for me.
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I partied with some players there one time for a pre-game Friday night and each player had their own 30 pack. This was just for pre-game. The amount of drugs and alcohol that have been ingested in that apartment complex is monumental.

That said, getting busted for smoking by setting off a smoke alarm is bush league AF.
I’m calling BS on this. The football team has stayed in a hotel on Friday nights before a home game for at least 40 years. When was this?
 

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I’m calling BS on this. The football team has stayed in a hotel on Friday nights before a home game for at least 40 years. When was this?

Thanks.

I meant pre-game like before going out to keggers, not pre-football game at Beaver stadium. This was around the year 2000 and not during football season. The only player that was around that night that became a starter was my friend who invited me (actually secondary friend, the person who invited me was the singer in my band who was best friends with the player.) My friend played fullback and was in many games during the early 2000s.

I was not one of the cool kids but my guitar playing got me in the room with them sometimes.
 
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You can't smoke tobacco in the buildings on campus, even the dorms. I'm not saying this is a big deal other than he should make better decisions. Marijuana is illegal in PA, smoking anything in a PSU building is illegal (at least against some rules). Why take the risk? Is there not some other place he could have gone?
 
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You can smoke tobacco in the buildings on campus, even the dorms. I'm not saying this is a big deal other than he should make better decisions. Marijuana is illegal in PA, smoking anything in a PSU building is illegal (at least against some rules). Why take the risk? Is there not some other place he could have gone?
I don't think that is true. Pretty sure you can't smoke anywhere on campus.

 

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He's not wrong.


I remember reading a newspaper when flying back from China in the 80s and there was a headline that PSU QB Tom Bill was arrested for public drunkenness. I'm reading this from halfway around the world and thinking that could have been me at that age.
 
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Showing up? Sure. Busting for weed? Eh. I mean, if the alarm goes off, and I'm sure everyone heard it, how is it that Carter wasn't smart/clever enough to dispose of the evidence (flush down toilet, etc.)? How long does it take to respond to a dorm fire alarm? Or, how dumb are our players?
Smoking weed makes some people super dumb and silly (me) and some people razor sharp (moms). 11 is in my camp
 
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Why is anyone being charged with user weight MJ in 2023?

Also, do the State College Police still enforce that stupid public intoxication statute? Would they rather you drive drunk instead of walking?
 

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I don't think police went into Carter's room looking to nail him on marijuana charges. They were responding to a fire alarm and they looked into why it went off. Then they saw a crime. I don't think it's their job to decide what crimes to enforce.
There‘s a point where police need a search warrant. Let’s say the police smelled MJ. There’s no crime scene exception to the warrant requirement. Under those circumstances, the police need to secure the premises and get a warrant. They can do an initial warrantless search due to the emergency caused by the fire alarm, but it does not justify a prolonged search of everything. There could be problems here if the MJ wasn’t in plain view and they didn’t get a warrant. I’m from New York and user weight MJ is legal. This seems like it should be handled as a campus disciplinary matter for the fire alarm going off. The MJ charge should be dismissed if he stays out of trouble for 6 months to a year. I’m laughing that in 2023, a college student smoking MJ is news and is being handled in court.
 
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There‘s a point where police need a search warrant. Let’s say the police smelled MJ. There’s no crime scene exception to the warrant requirement. Under those circumstances, the police need to secure the premises and get a warrant. They can do an initial warrantless search due to the emergency caused by the fire alarm, but it does not justify a prolonged search of everything. There could be problems here if the MJ wasn’t in plain view and they didn’t get a warrant. I’m from New York and user weight MJ is legal. This seems like it should be handled as a campus disciplinary matter for the fire alarm going off. The MJ charge should be dismissed if he stays out of trouble for 6 months to a year. I’m laughing that in 2023, a college student smoking MJ is news and is being handled in court.

What does the university housing contract allow?
 

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Why is anyone being charged with user weight MJ in 2023?

Also, do the State College Police still enforce that stupid public intoxication statute? Would they rather you drive drunk instead of walking?

why are people charged with smoking cigarettes on a plane’s lavatory? Seems about the same
 

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IMO he should have been held out of the WVa game. He broke the law and team rules and he admitted it. I'm not saying it was a serious crime but I don't think it sets a good example to let these things slide. Franklin says it has been handled internally but WTF does that mean? Run a few more suicides?
I’m not saying you are wrong, but to play devil’s advocate here, did you ever question Joe when he said a disciplinary matter was handled internally? Most didn’t, that’s why I ask. Why is Franklin held to a different standard?
 

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I get it, but the law is the law. Plus, smoke detectors were set off. Horne sounds like a culture problem. Would he care if it was a regular student? Granted, it wouldn’t be a story, but Horne probably wouldn’t care.

Is Horne pro-weed or pro-football?
You never had a beer underage? Smoked a cigarette underage? Driven over the speed limit? Driven over the speed limit in a construction or school zone? Driven out the entrance to a parking lot the wrong way? I mean, the law is the law. Do you wish they would have thrown the book at you when you did? Maybe you are a culture problem?
 

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The kid made a stupid mistake. We all did at his age. None of us are immune to mistakes at his age. Some bigger than others, but sideline quarterbacking the situation is silly. He smoked a little weed, set off an alarm, the police responded (as they should) and he admitted to it. He has accepted responsibility. Whatever discipline he gets, he is facing head on. These are types of situations that shape how we evole into adulthood. Make him pay the fine and face whatever he will face and move on. This is getting way overblown.
 
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That’s ridiculous lol
THC intoxication has been shown to impair cognitive function on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior.

 

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THC intoxication has been shown to impair cognitive function on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior.

What, ae you some kind of perfectionist? I routinely offer the pilots a little spliff on all the flights I take. Same with my neurosurgeon.
 
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