We all joke about FSU and that team in the upstate are getting left out of conferences. We laugh that they are stuck in the ACC. My concern is that the SEC will start culling teams that are underperforming and pick up teams that bring more eyes to TV's. We could be one of the culls. B1G could start culling too to strengthen their teams. Maybe I'm wrong and hope I am. We need to perform better to keep this possibility out of the options.
Am I the only one concerned?
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Well, of course that’s going to happen. Money is the name of game, increasingly so. How much longer are the revenue generators going to be content sharing revenue with teams like us and Mississippi State and Vandy?
i’m not really concerned about it. In the sense of whether or not it’s going to happen. It’s just a matter of when.
i’m not really concerned about it. In the sense of whether or not it’s going to happen. It’s just a matter of when.
I don't think FSU or the team in the upstate will be left out . Both have a huge brand to sell.
Some of you should go have some eggnog and enjoy the holiday.
I could see it happening once conferences hit saturation at ,say, 20 to 24 teams. If I were the SEC, I could see me taking the opportunity to give our @$$e$ the boot in favor of a football school of superior relevance and recent achievement. It would depend on what the optimal number of teams is in the future. Every league is going to have some teams or schools worth culling, but suitable replacements might not be available.
Don't know. But who wants to take that chance? That's why I say Beamer better win next season.....tough schedule or not. It will be his 4th season. Drink produced in his 4th season at Missouri. Kiffin began producing at Ole Miss in season 2.
If it comes down to how much class the SEC has I don't like our odds
Vandy has been a member since 1932. SEC is more then football.
Its a moot point, we cant keep our top players in this system, they are killing us so we are screwed in conference. Our damn kicker transferred for Gods sake! You people blaming Beamer are barking up the wrong tree, Every time we start to build some continuity its gets shattered by schools with more money or a better History. NIL sucks and the NCAA better do something about this. Why cant they reinstate the transfer rule where you have to sit a year? That would put an end to most of this crap.
That's toothpaste back in the tube. Unlikely, difficult, and not in the spirit of making players equal with coaches, which is what all this is about, however stupid it is.
Correct. For those complaining, I suggest you do as I am considering. Find a new sport or a new hobby. CFB is no longer fun for me. We've never really been anything above mediocre, but we are now a permanent have not under the current system. As KingWard sez, that toothpaste is out of the tube.
The most likely course for the future is the 60 or so team super conference for football only that is not affiliated with the NCAA or conferences in any way. These top 60 teams will have a true playoff to determine a legitimate national champion. All other sports will be NCAA sports and will be affiliated with conferences and those conferences will return to their logical geographic nature. The remaining 70+ football programs will compete within the conferences and will play in traditional bowls at the end of the season.
Depending on how you see it; the good or bad news is, USC will most likely NOT be in the new super conference. USC, Miss St., UK, Vandy, Missouri, Arkansas and possibly Ole Miss will remain in the "new" SEC.
Depending on how you see it; the good or bad news is, USC will most likely NOT be in the new super conference. USC, Miss St., UK, Vandy, Missouri, Arkansas and possibly Ole Miss will remain in the "new" SEC.
You understand there are only 65 P5 teams in the country right? What you are proposing is literally what we have right now, more or less. The only difference is that the G5 would have their own championship, which is probably a good idea.
Keep thinking that. Football is the engine.Vandy has been a member since 1932. SEC is more then football.
Because you want to reinstate that rule and they are currently fighting the single transfer rule in court. There is an injunction right now allowing everyone to transfer as much as they want. The ncaa is powerless.
Transferring is one thing and should not be restricted - transferring and playing NCAA football is another and should be regulated by the NCAA.
I know football is the engine, but I still don't see the SEC dropping teams to improve tv ratings like op said.
I know football is the engine, but I still don't see the SEC dropping teams to improve tv ratings like op is concerned about.
If they kick anyone out for under performing. Hopefully, Vanderbilt will be the first and only initial target.
I don’t have much faith in our Univ. fighting that fight with Tanner at lead. If you ask me, he is to happy-go-lucky to be a D1 Athletic Director.
I don’t have much faith in our Univ. fighting that fight with Tanner at lead. If you ask me, he is to happy-go-lucky to be a D1 Athletic Director.
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I'm not proposing anything, there is already talk of something like that happening. If you think all the current P5 programs will be in the new super conference and none of the current G5 programs will move up, you will likely be surprised. I can assure you Illinois, Rutgers, Vandy, Wake Forest, Stanford, etc. will not be in the super conference and USC's football history doesn't put it in the top tier of football programs.
I get what you’re saying, I just don’t know if the court is going to see it that way. We will have to wait and see. That case is working its way through right now. If the court rules players can transfer as many times as they like I don’t see how you regulate it at all.
The NIl
And Portal combined
Is gonna kill the sport anyway.
Until ESPN starts paying the players equally l.
The SEC will not get rid of SC, for one the best teams have to have someone to beat.
If you took the top 20 and put them in the same conference at the end
Of the year 10 of the teams would have bad records. Now what I see is SC becoming a feeder to the bigger schools. Honestly ring independent isn’t a bad idea. If you have good leadership.
And Portal combined
Is gonna kill the sport anyway.
Until ESPN starts paying the players equally l.
The SEC will not get rid of SC, for one the best teams have to have someone to beat.
If you took the top 20 and put them in the same conference at the end
Of the year 10 of the teams would have bad records. Now what I see is SC becoming a feeder to the bigger schools. Honestly ring independent isn’t a bad idea. If you have good leadership.
You are absolutely correct and success on the field leads directly to more money. Vanderbilt is loaded with money, so is Stanford but neither one is going to be in a super conference of top tier football programs because they don't have huge fan bases and tv audiences. Carolina is not a big money program and doesn't draw a huge tv audience. The tv draw is as big or bigger a factor than the money the school has. Be honest, what tv audience does Carolina football really draw? I would venture Clemson is a bigger tv draw than Carolina. Miss St and UK are in the same boat when it comes to college football.
We are consistently top 20-30 in value/revenue. Unfortunately, our on the field success hasn't lined up with that. 247 had a ranking at the end of 2021 that had us at 16. Clem was 25. It's OK to say positive things about the program you're a fan of sometimes, I promise.
The P5 just needs to break away from G5 in football. It makes zero sense that App St is competing for the same national championship as Bama.
And further to that point, $$ is destroying championship hopes for a lot of these teams. App St, for example, won 3 straight FCS championships in the mid 2000s. They moved to FBS in 2014. Since then, they've had 5 10+ win seasons. Sounds great. Their award for those seasons were Gasparilla Bowl, New Orleans Bowl, and Boca Raton Bowl wins against other G5 teams. App St moving to FBS secured their future for NEVER winning a NC again. The whole system is broken, and needs to be revamped.
And further to that point, $$ is destroying championship hopes for a lot of these teams. App St, for example, won 3 straight FCS championships in the mid 2000s. They moved to FBS in 2014. Since then, they've had 5 10+ win seasons. Sounds great. Their award for those seasons were Gasparilla Bowl, New Orleans Bowl, and Boca Raton Bowl wins against other G5 teams. App St moving to FBS secured their future for NEVER winning a NC again. The whole system is broken, and needs to be revamped.