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That’s good. Im guessing the “1,000 jobs” will largely be in the initial construction. Hard to see two data centers hiring that many people long term, but still good news.
Word on street is that the job number is “permanent jobs” and does not include construction activities. Average annual wage expectation $98,000
The numbers they’re talking about are phenomenal. I’m always skeptical if these things will live up to their billing. But this could be huge.
The whiny socialist on my social media feed says this is a terrible thing because Madison County needs it the least.
This is likely gonna be an Amazon Web Services data center. HUGE, if true.
As an IT guy, I can truly say that AWS is the t1tś. This is a damn big deal.
In fact: https://www.supertalk.fm/gov-reeves...mic-project-in-madison-county-on-the-horizon/
For even more perspective, check out the cities on this list that are merely edge locations or availability zones: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regions_az/
I can’t understate what a MASSIVE coup this would be for MS. Give em hell, Tater!! Now go enjoy your 2nd lunch!!***
Wonder if they would be interested in a former newspaper publisher turned car salesman? Asking for a friend.***
AWS data centers are as sophisticated as can possibly be. I think the numbers are legit.
These numbers are always widely over estimated. They include salaries of anyone that does anything related to the plant, like a regional VP in Dallas or remote workers in San Fran.
Still a great thing though.
Construction jobs are not included. I've seen an article that says there will be 6,000 of those.
Politicians and their friends hands
For the non-IT, what are differences between data centers, availability zones and edge locations? How many similar Amazon data centers are in USA? I know their cloud services are a big part of AMZN profit and projected growth,,, but know zero about the infrastructure.
There are very few metro areas in MS that you could hope to attract enough talent for such a project. It's not like you could even convince a company to put something like that in say, Tunica. I wish it was as easy as build it and they will come...as my dad used to tell me "wish in one hand and pee in the other see which one fills up faster".
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ITs all about infrastructure and who has what fits the company’s needs-power, water, sewer, workforce….
Also, you invest in your successes and they will breed prosperity for all. The state needs to continue to invest in Metro, GTR, Desoto, Tupelo/NA/Oxford Corridor, Hattiesburg and Gulf Coast
They’re all data centers. The most generic is a “region”, like US West or East. Within regions there are Availability Zones, and then edge locations. But, at the end of the day they’re all data centers that play certain roles.
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To have any of these is an absolute honor right now. It’s a booming IT trend that’s only gonna grow exponentially, and AWS is the alpha dog. Basically, no AWS business will ever have to know jack about their own data centers anymore, and they have full control over their scale and can pay close attention to their usage with the click of a button.
We ain't gonna end up with a bunch of them AI robots around here........are we ? **
They'll probably be guarding that facility within a decade. No sarcasterisks.
Do Androids like Pineapples? **
When I see these announcements, I have to wonder how much effort gets put into retaining existing jobs. Today the daily journal had story about a plant in Saltillo shutting down, ~200 jobs lost. Sounds like it's just a major restructuring for the company.
But do companies that have been around 30-40 years ever get anything from the state --- like hey, you guys employ 300 people and have been doing $100M in revenue for the last 20 years, what extra can we do to help keep you happy?
But do companies that have been around 30-40 years ever get anything from the state --- like hey, you guys employ 300 people and have been doing $100M in revenue for the last 20 years, what extra can we do to help keep you happy?
Nope. That doesn’t win headlines for politicians.
It is indeed an Amazon data center AND distribution center. A cloverleaf interchange will be built by the state in Madison county. Approx $67 MM investment by the state the first and second years. Larger the third year. Don't know exact number on that yet. Info came directly from a member of the house that is a good friend. I was in the Capital today
My House member buddy just told me Madison county. And that the state would be building a cloverleaf interchange to support it
Are they building it close to the sports megadome in Gluckstadt?
$100 Million Sports Complex coming to Gluckstadt
The city of Gluckstadt issued the following statement.
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That's right. Data centers don't need very many full timers to run the place. Or so "they" say. One thing they do need though is a lot of electrical power. There's one here (I think It's Facebook) that has a huge solar panel field - several acres - that allegedly supplies the needs of the center.
A lot of power and a shitton of water. The centers that have been built 2mi beyond the current established edges of my town and metro use an ungodly amount of water.
No, MEGALOSPORTSDOME would be going over on the east side of 55...Are they building it close to the sports megadome in Gluckstadt?
$100 Million Sports Complex coming to Gluckstadt
The city of Gluckstadt issued the following statement.
I should really insert a big "if" in the sentence above somewhere.
Replacing 200 $18 hour manufacturing jobs with 1000 Hi Tech $98K year jobs works out in the long run.
Saw an estimate saying total state investment in the neighborhood of $350,000,000. Local gov't participation will be a fee in lieu at a minimum. Will be built on existing MadCo megasite.
Not sure how many companies disclose where their data centers are located.
Free market capitalism without government intervention, right? 
Yeah. Until your friends back in your home counties in rural Mississippi get upset about all these job opportunities happening in counties with higher populations or closer to major metropolitan areas.
No grousing from my Pine Belt friends yet but I expect it to happen.
I believe $200 million+ of the state involvement will be a loan to Madison for infrastructure improvements. From golfers comments might be a lot of water and sewer in addition to roads. Loan will be paid off with proceeds from fee in lieu. Fee in lieu will probably be statutory minimum for a project like this but maybe it will be minimum plus road and bridge portion of normal ad valorem tax. I think several counties exclude road and bridge and community college portions of ad vslorem from their ten year exemptions.
I still prefer corporate welfare to government welfare. Neither is perfect and humans as humans will do take advantage of both but when done right one has the potential to exponentially impact an area and a population while the other maintains at best. Before a certain persuasion gets all upset both are definitely needed and both need to be better managed.....so no I don't propose ending govmint welfare.Free market capitalism without government intervention, right?
I'd narrow that down even further. Metro, GTR and Gulf Coast. Desoto, Tupelo and Hattiesburg economies can really stand on their own, and none have that true 'transformational' potential.
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