Trending in the right direction with Stokes
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Attitude wise, it does seem that way. However, Pope also likely wants to keep his job and prove he can recruit ("pay") a top prep talent to wear Kentucky blue. Kid is a talent, we need talent.
Kansas also has a coach who recently threw their Freshman sensation under the bus (justifiably I must admit). A skipped handshake (Stokes) and a few words about Peterson might make our dollars more attractive that the dollars from the University of Kansas Penal Institute.
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Where is Garrison on your returning list? Just joking, I like it, now the Big question is if we really have or had 22 million in the first place and are we going to get it again after this year’s mess?
No way in hell Pope is getting $22 million again next season. I'd be shocked if he has more than $12-15 million to spend.
He will.
Boosters are desperate for us to be relevant again AND we now have Rev-sharing also. He’ll have members of the ‘96 team, Jeff & Reed Sheppard, etc. all calling boosters, raising funds, etc.
Plus, hopefully a new top-notch GM who boosters will trust the money with more.
I think we’ll be totally fine financially.
No way the boosters will pony up 22 million again next year they will be saving that for the big Pope buy out thanks Mitch..
I heard he was seen looking for a horse farm to buy in the area and checking on the local schools. 
We don’t have 22mil or even a budget of whatever the school can get in donations this year. This is going to be the first season where NIL deals are now being paid by the rev share and actual company deals for the players.
School's NIL collectives (like we have with ClubBlue) can still negotiate NIL deals for players in addition to RevSharing. They are separate.
KU is likely going to insist (I would) on Stokes playing a minimum number of minutes, attending all practices, putting in good faith effort to further KU basketball...things in response to Darryn Peterson behavior. And could be a new pay as you go model and add in some bonus clauses (win conference, win POY, advancing in the NCAAT).
I have not idea if this NIL number is correct, but hell no if it is
No they cannot, your picture contradicts your words. There is no more we’ll pay you 5 million if you come to UK unless it comes from the 22 million rev share (which Basketball gets like 5 million from) or from actual endorsement deals, which can be negotiated through UK but also is going through JMI for us.
That is literally what we have been doing. I don't think you quite know what NIL is. It's "Name, Image and Likeness", they are all negotiated endorsement deals, schools are just saying, "We'll guarantee you $5 million in NIL (AKA Endorsement deals) to come here". They are all negotiated via JMI and through the Club Blue NIL collective. Literally none of that is going to change, that is still allowed and will continue to happen. RevShare is just a part of this now as well where schools won't need to rely solely on NIL to compensate players.
people are going to say Stokes isnt worth 6 million and you know what, no GD player is coming here for next year without being massively over paid because Pope is on the Hot Seat and with a bad reputation now.
But I want Pope out of here so dont pay any good players what they are asking so we can go head and throw away next season like all of you want us to do and move the hell on from this failed experiment.
But I want Pope out of here so dont pay any good players what they are asking so we can go head and throw away next season like all of you want us to do and move the hell on from this failed experiment.
No, UK has the most lucrative deal on the table, but KU was always his first choice, and still leads, but they are working out the whole Nike/ Adidas thing.
Let’s take off our blue tinted glasses and think from Stokes’ perspective…
Do you want to put your image on stage for a guy who has forgotten more about this stuff (Peterson just this season alone)than all but a very small fraction of coaches all time, or…
Do you take a gamble for slightly more $$$, that’s not even going to be a factor a little over a year from now, on a guy who has never had any experience showcasing future NBA all stars, who plays bench guys as much or more than his starters, who’s going to surround you with lesser talent, AND, that’s going to be on the Hot Seat the entire season you are there?
Yet, here we are even debating such utter nonsense, as even a remote possibility of occurring
Imagine if it turns out Stokes, a Kentucky born player, takes a pay cut to go to Kansas over Kentucky. If that doesn’t doom Pope’s career here, I don’t know what will.
I won’t go back into details on this post as my post about this is still on the first page. We have a legit shot and we are offering substantially more than Kansas. It’s really up to Stokes at this point but I don’t see him taking a 2.5 million pay cut to play at Kansas. Time will tell but I still believe amazingly that he ends up here next year.
trueMight be true but why is that so funny to a Cat fan?Well of course it’s not…Stokes don’t want anything to do with us
He can always go there and play free if he likes them so much.
In no world should we pay Moreno 3 million. He is good, but he’s not 3 million good.
So much for that smoke of Kentucky being back in it huh?
Because I seen all this on the timeline when pope was hired…..I told. “ASEAOFBLUE”
This very thing a year ago and nobody listened…
Wrong again. Before this season schools could just pay whatever they deemed necessary for players. There was no 22 million dollar cap that the rev share now has in effect, that’s shared between all sports. If they had the money, no matter how they got it, it could be spent on players. Now the school has a hard cap of 22 million they can put towards players. The rest must came from some type of endorsement deal. Yes they can still guarantee you’ll get a certain amount but the only actual money they have is the 22 million. The rest would either need to be already in place deals, or would need to be worked out. You can say it’s still the same when they can no longer write the checks and it’s other business that have to be willing to pay for it.
Well if you “seen” it that’s all I need to know.