Yeah because I’m sure Cohen wrote in the contract for the contractor to damage something intentionally. Go back to bed…
So did Cohen take a hammer to the structure and cause it? Did he drive a bulldozer into it, jackhammer it, what did he do to cause it? You sue the contractor when they do something wrong, why would you point the finger at the AD instead?
It seriously has to be a joke that I just have not caught on to yet. I’ve seen some crazy things blamed on Cohen but this one takes the cake.
Pretty sure nobody with that surname has ever done any of those things.
Is this sarcasm? I don’t see how you can put this on Cohen. I’ve been in construction my entire life. Things like this happen. All it takes a mis print on drawings OR the damage could be pre existing and was uncovered during the renovation. I don’t think a majority of people on this board understand the depth of this renovation. It is MASSIVE. The concourse is gone. If I knew I could take pictures and post them I would.
Haven’t we all forgotten about that anyway? What with baseball being a club sport?***
It's sarcasm. But having a new coach and nowhere to play (which isn't even true) does create problems . My understanding is all games aren't going to have to be moved (they don't think). Just some of them.
You are right, I don’t understand the depth of this renovation. I also don’t know why we are renovating a building that we were told 10-12 years ago was going to be replaced in a master plan. This building has not been near capacity, other than Vic’s women teams in 10 years, but instead of dealing with an out of date building a few more years, until we had money to make the big change we renovate again. I don’t know that this is wise use of funds.
Lol I didn’t see the *** so I didn’t mean to come off as a jerk. This renovation really is something to behold. I’m going to ask tomorrow if I can take pictures of the concourse. Also, a lot of
Any updates you get are appreciated. I briefly glanced through the plans awhile back when it was being bid, and do remember the complex phasing, each with its own completion dates, built around the basketball seasons. Any major renovation of an old *** building is a PITA, especially with public funds. There’s guaranteed to be some unforeseen issues the designer could not find, and then every issue becomes an expensive change order and delay to contractually sort out. And sometimes a contract dispute if owner rep thinks designer or contractor is at fault for a delay.
Thanks Capt. I'm wondering if any of our own structural engineers get involved with these types of projects though; do they? Shouldn't a school with a good engineering program be embarassed if this is true? Please understand, I don't have the first clue about this stuff; just wondering out loud here. I'm so anxious to see what our new coach is gonna do and would hate like hell to see us not be able to play in The Hump this year. Thanks again for your knowledgeable input sir. Hail STATE!!
This project is no different than a project away from campus. The engineering department has nothing to do with it what so ever. I would be surprised if they’ve even seen the prints. I can say this though, the school hasn’t made this project any easier. I’m not throwing shade at the school at all, but they have presented roadblocks at every turn. People on this board ,myself included, do not fully understand the hurdles this job has had to go over. It’s a classic example of too many chiefs and not enough Indians. I love Mississippi State to the core, but it’s the truth at the moment.
Our floor completely buckled and has been ruined. We borrowed the floor from the bancorpsouth center in Tupelo .
The real crime here is making the decision to renovate a 50 year old building instead of starting over. We have the money to start over and anybody that tells you differently is lying. The projections after adding Texas and Oklahoma are 100k for every SEC team by 2030. Thats sick money and we can easily afford a new basketball arena. In fact, we can afford it right now.
All that matters to a publicly bid project is who is awarded the bid. Our structural engineering dept doesn’t need to step foot near any decisions made with this.
Not to get bogged down, How many lawyers and litigation issues have you been involved with?
Is there a possibility that someone made the lowest bid top priority over references?
Yeah I don't get this decision at all. I'm sure the excuse will be money. But as you pointed out, if we can't make capital improvements with record revenues... I just don't know what to say.
Depends on whether the request for bid rules allowed that. They usually have language giving the state or IHL the discretion not to choose the lowest bid where other overriding factors exist. So yes that’s a possibility.
Unless things have changed, I remember looking at athletic budgets before all these Cable TV contracts started coming in and all the blue bloods were spending every dime on improvements and not worrying about "being in the black". They were always slightly in the red basically always looking spend it all on something nice and making their nice things nicer. Sounds to me like we still have folks running the show that wanna nickel and dime stuff which is "Why We Can't Have Nice Things." A few years from now we'll realize this maybe and understand how much money we blew on this failed cluster 17 of a renovation while we're tearing the whole damn thing down and starting anew which we shoulda done from the get go.
You clearly don't have a clue so stop speculating. Makes you look dumb.
