Bad day for Jerry and the Cowboys today... will get worse before it gets better

EricStratton-RushChairman

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Not sure if this is getting picked up in the Northeast, but this is really bad look for Jerry. The Cheerleaders get treated like crap by management (believe it or not) so it does not surprise me that their issues were not taken seriously. It today's age of wokeness, good or bad, this is going to build steam and might get really problematic for ownership.

 

VaDave4PSU

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Do you think it'll gain more traction than this did:


Or the Michigan doctor. OSU. Sparty.

I think we as PSU fans see this, cringe, await the media circus because they crapped on us, and then it never comes.
 

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2015? Omg. Move on. Media have bigger fish to fry like whoopie. Oh wait…..
 

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Not sure if this is getting picked up in the Northeast, but this is really bad look for Jerry. The Cheerleaders get treated like crap by management (believe it or not) so it does not surprise me that their issues were not taken seriously. It today's age of wokeness, good or bad, this is going to build steam and might get really problematic for ownership.

When the Russian hockey team came to America decades ago, they were treated to a Cowboys’ football game. The Russian coach was watching the Dallas cheerleaders and asked his host, “These women, are they wayward?”
 

BobPSU92

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Not sure if this is getting picked up in the Northeast, but this is really bad look for Jerry. The Cheerleaders get treated like crap by management (believe it or not) so it does not surprise me that their issues were not taken seriously. It today's age of wokeness, good or bad, this is going to build steam and might get really problematic for ownership.


From the article:

”For his part, Dalrymple stated he was unaware there were women in the locker room when he entered and he immediately left when he discovered they were.”

And,

"People who know me, co-workers, the media and colleagues, know who I am and what I'm about," Dalrymple said in his official reply to the allegations. "I understand the very serious nature of these claims and do not take them lightly. The accusations are, however, false. One was accidental and the other simply did not happen. Everything that was alleged was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully."

See? It’s all just a misunderstanding.
 

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Something seems inconsistent here:

1. From the accused: "People who know me, co-workers, the media and colleagues, know who I am and what I'm about," Dalrymple said in his official reply to the allegations. "I understand the very serious nature of these claims and do not take them lightly. The accusations are, however, false. One was accidental and the other simply did not happen. Everything that was alleged was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully."

2. From the Cowboys: "The organization took these allegations extremely seriously and moved immediately to thoroughly investigate this matter," said communications consultant Jim Wilkinson. "The investigation was handled consistent with best legal and HR practices and the investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. If any wrongdoing had been found, Rich would have been terminated immediately."

3. What took place after the reports by the cheerleaders and the investigation: "Each of the women involved in the lawsuit received $399,523.27 in the settlement." and it was "a confidential settlement."

Doing a quick Google search, it appears that members of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders made @ $75,000 per year in 2021, and that had pretty much doubled from what they were paid in 2019. As the alleged incident took place in 2015, we can guesstimate that they made @ $32-$35,000 per year at that time.

Payments of $400,000 per person are not made to individuals that earn $35,000 per year unless either the company or their insurance company think the case is pretty strong in favor of the accused, or that plus they really want to avoid any bad publicity.

And the employee that was accused continued to work for the Cowboys after the accusations, the investigation, and the settlement.

The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this. They would have been soundly criticized in 2015 if the payments had not been made confidentially. That it appears the they tried to sweep it under the rug, and kept the accused around after making the payments, just makes it worse now that the info has been leaked.
 

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Something seems inconsistent here:

1. From the accused: "People who know me, co-workers, the media and colleagues, know who I am and what I'm about," Dalrymple said in his official reply to the allegations. "I understand the very serious nature of these claims and do not take them lightly. The accusations are, however, false. One was accidental and the other simply did not happen. Everything that was alleged was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully."

2. From the Cowboys: "The organization took these allegations extremely seriously and moved immediately to thoroughly investigate this matter," said communications consultant Jim Wilkinson. "The investigation was handled consistent with best legal and HR practices and the investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. If any wrongdoing had been found, Rich would have been terminated immediately."

3. What took place after the reports by the cheerleaders and the investigation: "Each of the women involved in the lawsuit received $399,523.27 in the settlement." and it was "a confidential settlement."

Doing a quick Google search, it appears that members of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders made @ $75,000 per year in 2021, and that had pretty much doubled from what they were paid in 2019. As the alleged incident took place in 2015, we can guesstimate that they made @ $32-$35,000 per year at that time.

Payments of $400,000 per person are not made to individuals that earn $35,000 per year unless either the company or their insurance company think the case is pretty strong in favor of the accused, or that plus they really want to avoid any bad publicity.

And the employee that was accused continued to work for the Cowboys after the accusations, the investigation, and the settlement.

The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this. They would have been soundly criticized in 2015 if the payments had not been made confidentially. That it appears the they tried to sweep it under the rug, and kept the accused around after making the payments, just makes it worse now that the info has been leaked.
And how do you take up skirt shots of the owner’s daughter and live to tell? That doesn’t make sense unless it’s false and hearsay.
 

Tom McAndrew

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And how do you take up skirt shots of the owner’s daughter and live to tell? That doesn’t make sense unless it’s false and hearsay.

yeah, I didn't focus on that aspect of the story. Not many details were given about that charge, and I suspect it's difficult to prove unless it took place multiple times, or there were multiple pics taken at one time.

If it did take place, and the investigation proved it, then Jerry is even stranger than I thought.
 

EricStratton-RushChairman

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yeah, I didn't focus on that aspect of the story. Not many details were given about that charge, and I suspect it's difficult to prove unless it took place multiple times, or there were multiple pics taken at one time.

If it did take place, and the investigation proved it, then Jerry is even stranger than I thought.
The general feeling is this guy has been protecting Jerry for 30 years and knows where all the bodies are buried. The fact that they spent that much money to buy silence is not a good look.
 

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The general feeling is this guy has been protecting Jerry for 30 years and knows where all the bodies are buried. The fact that they spent that much money to buy silence is not a good look.

For the sake of argument, I'm going to defend the deal. Whether the charges were true or not, that's chump change to buy multiple nondisclosure agreements. When Jerry bought the Cowboys there were tons of accusations about the way the cheerleaders were being exploited by Jones. He was finally putting that behind him. Even if he had fought the lawsuits and won, the bad press and lost goodwill would have been much worse than the $2.4MM to make it go away. I wouldn't even be surprised if the league nudged him to settle.
 

BobPSU92

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And how do you take up skirt shots of the owner’s daughter and live to tell? That doesn’t make sense unless it’s false and hearsay.

yeah, I didn't focus on that aspect of the story. Not many details were given about that charge, and I suspect it's difficult to prove unless it took place multiple times, or there were multiple pics taken at one time.

If it did take place, and the investigation proved it, then Jerry is even stranger than I thought.

I picture Austin Powers. “Oops! I dropped my phone! Oh! I did it again! Oh no! I dropped my phone again!”
 

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Not sure if this is getting picked up in the Northeast, but this is really bad look for Jerry. The Cheerleaders get treated like crap by management (believe it or not) so it does not surprise me that their issues were not taken seriously. It today's age of wokeness, good or bad, this is going to build steam and might get really problematic for ownership.


My wife is a big fan of the show the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. Upon cursory examination nobody's holding a gun to these girls' heads.
Something seems inconsistent here:

1. From the accused: "People who know me, co-workers, the media and colleagues, know who I am and what I'm about," Dalrymple said in his official reply to the allegations. "I understand the very serious nature of these claims and do not take them lightly. The accusations are, however, false. One was accidental and the other simply did not happen. Everything that was alleged was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully."

2. From the Cowboys: "The organization took these allegations extremely seriously and moved immediately to thoroughly investigate this matter," said communications consultant Jim Wilkinson. "The investigation was handled consistent with best legal and HR practices and the investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. If any wrongdoing had been found, Rich would have been terminated immediately."

3. What took place after the reports by the cheerleaders and the investigation: "Each of the women involved in the lawsuit received $399,523.27 in the settlement." and it was "a confidential settlement."

Doing a quick Google search, it appears that members of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders made @ $75,000 per year in 2021, and that had pretty much doubled from what they were paid in 2019. As the alleged incident took place in 2015, we can guesstimate that they made @ $32-$35,000 per year at that time.

Payments of $400,000 per person are not made to individuals that earn $35,000 per year unless either the company or their insurance company think the case is pretty strong in favor of the accused, or that plus they really want to avoid any bad publicity.

And the employee that was accused continued to work for the Cowboys after the accusations, the investigation, and the settlement.

The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this. They would have been soundly criticized in 2015 if the payments had not been made confidentially. That it appears the they tried to sweep it under the rug, and kept the accused around after making the payments, just makes it worse now that the info has been leaked.

LOL! "The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this." What we have here is an Iggles fan trying to conflagrate an issue about a divisional rival. Charges of harassment and misconduct are not unique to an organization. Moreover, the more prominent the organization is the more attention it gets. You should know as much from the Sandusky scandal.

Allegations of a coverup are just that: allegations. It's a confidential settlement reached (probably) through mediation. So that the claimants were instructed not to not talk. Ergo, no coverup. If they got $400k through mediation we can only speculate what they'd receive had they sued. Or perhaps they settled because their case wasn't strong enough for trial! Who knows. Reserve that gossip for a spinster's knitting circle. All I know is my wife is a fan of the show Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders and as such, I have occasion to watch it. Upon cursory examination I can say nobody is holding a gun to these girls' heads. They use the experience as a springboard for careers in modeling, entertainment, etc... Chalk one up to the cost of achieving notoriety. But I understand your misgivings. It's not something Iggles cheerleaders need worry about.
 

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From the article:

”For his part, Dalrymple stated he was unaware there were women in the locker room when he entered and he immediately left when he discovered they were.”
That quote is hard to believe. He walked into a locker room designated for use by women and claims he was unaware there would be women inside?? First, why would he need to go inside anyway?? Second, if he did need to go inside, it would have been reasonable to knock/pound on the door and announce yourself. I'm sure he would have been told if it was okay to enter. It sounds to me as if he was playing the ignorance card to get his jollies. "Oh, I'm sorry ladies. I didn't know you would be in your locker room before/after the event. I thought you were changing elsewhere."
 

BobPSU92

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That quote is hard to believe. He walked into a locker room designated for use by women and claims he was unaware there would be women inside?? First, why would he need to go inside anyway?? Second, if he did need to go inside, it would have been reasonable to knock/pound on the door and announce yourself. I'm sure he would have been told if it was okay to enter. It sounds to me as if he was playing the ignorance card to get his jollies. "Oh, I'm sorry ladies. I didn't know you would be in your locker room before/after the event. I thought you were changing elsewhere."

Misunderstanding.
 

LionJim

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That quote is hard to believe. He walked into a locker room designated for use by women and claims he was unaware there would be women inside?? First, why would he need to go inside anyway?? Second, if he did need to go inside, it would have been reasonable to knock/pound on the door and announce yourself. I'm sure he would have been told if it was okay to enter. It sounds to me as if he was playing the ignorance card to get his jollies. "Oh, I'm sorry ladies. I didn't know you would be in your locker room before/after the event. I thought you were changing elsewhere."
What’s he going to say? Remember the scene in Back to the Future when Marty catches his dad perving? “He’s a peeping Tom?”
 
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Tom McAndrew

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LOL! "The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this." What we have here is an Iggles fan trying to conflagrate an issue about a divisional rival. Charges of harassment and misconduct are not unique to an organization. Moreover, the more prominent the organization is the more attention it gets. You should know as much from the Sandusky scandal.

Allegations of a coverup are just that: allegations. It's a confidential settlement reached (probably) through mediation. So that the claimants were instructed not to not talk. Ergo, no coverup. If they got $400k through mediation we can only speculate what they'd receive had they sued. Or perhaps they settled because their case wasn't strong enough for trial! Who knows. Reserve that gossip for a spinster's knitting circle. All I know is my wife is a fan of the show Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders and as such, I have occasion to watch it. Upon cursory examination I can say nobody is holding a gun to these girls' heads. They use the experience as a springboard for careers in modeling, entertainment, etc... Chalk one up to the cost of achieving notoriety. But I understand your misgivings. It's not something Iggles cheerleaders need worry about.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
- Mark Twain

I won't respond to most of your comments, as they do enough damage to your argument.

In terms of me being an Eagles fan, it doesn't take too long on this board to figure that out. And yes, as an Eagles fan, I dislike the Cowboys. Despite what you seem to think, if a report like what was linked in the OP came out about the Eagles, I would feel the same way about the Birds and their ownership as I do about how this appears to have been handled by the Cowboys and their ownership.
 

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It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
- Mark Twain

I won't respond to most of your comments, as they do enough damage to your argument.

In terms of me being an Eagles fan, it doesn't take too long on this board to figure that out. And yes, as an Eagles fan, I dislike the Cowboys. Despite what you seem to think, if a report like what was linked in the OP came out about the Eagles, I would feel the same way about the Birds and their ownership as I do about how this appears to have been handled by the Cowboys and their ownership.
in regards to that particular poster...
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As long as businesses keep handing money to anyone with a claim of being a victim, we're going to see stories like this.

I would think a true victim would not be happy with a monetary handout, but would rather want some prosecution.

Never understood how money was the cure for such things.
 
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Something seems inconsistent here:

1. From the accused: "People who know me, co-workers, the media and colleagues, know who I am and what I'm about," Dalrymple said in his official reply to the allegations. "I understand the very serious nature of these claims and do not take them lightly. The accusations are, however, false. One was accidental and the other simply did not happen. Everything that was alleged was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully."

2. From the Cowboys: "The organization took these allegations extremely seriously and moved immediately to thoroughly investigate this matter," said communications consultant Jim Wilkinson. "The investigation was handled consistent with best legal and HR practices and the investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. If any wrongdoing had been found, Rich would have been terminated immediately."

3. What took place after the reports by the cheerleaders and the investigation: "Each of the women involved in the lawsuit received $399,523.27 in the settlement." and it was "a confidential settlement."

Doing a quick Google search, it appears that members of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders made @ $75,000 per year in 2021, and that had pretty much doubled from what they were paid in 2019. As the alleged incident took place in 2015, we can guesstimate that they made @ $32-$35,000 per year at that time.

Payments of $400,000 per person are not made to individuals that earn $35,000 per year unless either the company or their insurance company think the case is pretty strong in favor of the accused, or that plus they really want to avoid any bad publicity.

And the employee that was accused continued to work for the Cowboys after the accusations, the investigation, and the settlement.

The Cowboys deserve to be roasted about this. They would have been soundly criticized in 2015 if the payments had not been made confidentially. That it appears the they tried to sweep it under the rug, and kept the accused around after making the payments, just makes it worse now that the info has been leaked.
But of course Tom. I wonder if the settlement requires the cheerleaders for breaching the confidentiality provision. Care to comment?
 

LionJim

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But of course Tom. I wonder if the settlement requires the cheerleaders for breaching the confidentiality provision. Care to comment?
Do you have any specific knowledge that the leak didn’t come from within the Cowboys organization? From what I’ve read, the settlement came out in 2016, six years ago, and we’ve got not a peep about this until now. If the cheerleaders leaked this, it will likely become very very expensive for them, what would they get out of it? They weren’t abused, they were just perved upon. They’ve already gotten a lot of money out of this, why risk screwing this up? What’s the upside for them leaking, since they’re not going to get any more money out of it? And how would they know about the up-the-dress pictures; that wouldn’t be part of the cheerleaders’ settlement. I could be wrong but this reeks of an inside job, this leak. Darlymple quit the Cowboys earlier this month, you have to wonder about the timing. There is zero chance any of the cheerleaders were in contact with Darlymple; it’s too easy to track emails and phones these days.
 
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