The exception that proves the rule.Fixed that for ya.
No logos for your sport until it wins a Natty.
The exception that proves the rule.Fixed that for ya.
Hot take: Will rogers played better wearing the m banner than the script state
that should crank this up to 11
Haven’t you stated numerous times that our success in sports is kind of outstanding considering the demographics of both our fanbase and Starkville in relation to the rest of the SEC?Your side has definitely won. That's why we continue to be mired in mediocrity. We learned nothing from our success over the 2010s. Have at it, cool guys.
Did you not see me to just make mention to our success in the 2010s? Basically talking about the Byrne/Mullen/Cohen era all the way through Cohen's departure and Leach's death. That is why I am wondering why everyone wanted to pivot from what worked.Haven’t you stated numerous times that our success in sports is kind of outstanding considering the demographics of both our fanbase and Starkville in relation to the rest of the SEC?
Don’t forget the uniform piping.I don't know I've ever heard any other fanbase ***** about logos as much as we do.
The exception that proves the rule.
No logos for your sport until it wins a Natty.
That's because we have TOO damn many logos to choose from to ***** aboutI don't know I've ever heard any other fanbase ***** about logos as much as we do.
For those of us a little.... *ahem*...."longer in the tooth," it is associated with 90's basketball and a Final Four.The banner M will forever be associated with Croom for most of us. It was his first year that we started using it for football. Maine, 3-2, 45-0 Ole Miss... All under Croom and his banner M.
That graphic designer (hired during the Fogelsong "watch") also did not have the most stellar portfolio of university clients when hired. In fact, their work was primarily for what we now know as G5 and Div 1-AA institutions. Hardly a resume that would be for an SEC school.Thanks for pointing that out, now I will never unsee it. Of course I had to find out why it is off center. Here is the explanation.
Why is the A in the Mississippi State logo off center?
The graphic designer, ultimately, chose to anchor the center to the five letters of 'STATE' rather than to the center letter 'A. '
For the most part, I agree with you. MSU's problem in this area (as well as others) has been essentially distilled to 2 categories:This is correct. The new banner is blockier and looks much better. The Croom stuff has long been gone.
Baseball is the only sport that deserves its own logos. Both the M over S and the &tate belong there. And you can put it on merch, that's fine too.
But moving from M-State to &tate as the official athletics logo is a mistake, for a number of reasons. I don't even dislike the idea of another main athletic logo, many SEC schools have this, but &tate just isn't it. It doesn't look good in football, basketball, on the football field, on the basketball court, and it won't look good lit up hanging outside the stadium either.
I am not sure who started this &tate script push, so I won't blame anyone. But we could have sold a ton of merch with that logo, without making it a main logo. Same as if we sell merch with M over S. So I just don't get this - at all. Some folks want to emphasize 'State', well shlt son, we already have. The banner says M-"STATE", dubmasses. And we've started the greeting tradition of 'Hail State', which many of our fans won't embrace. And now with &tate, we are as irrelevant as ever, after a long period of success with a recognizable emblem, that is also our official university emblem.
For a guy who has loved MSU his whole life, it's extremely frustrating to sit here and watch us do these things over and over and over. We've been changing logos our entire history, with little success, until M-State. Now we change that. I'll never fully understand the mindset many of our fans have. We really don't know what's best for us, and most people just don't question anything, fully content to stay exactly where they are.
Emory Bellard says "hey"It boggles my mind that croom was the only state coach to beat Saban
"Goat?" Really? C'mon, man. That's like the equivalent of the winner of the "Tallest Building Contest" in NoxapaterGoat is pro Banner M. My team wins.
I totally misread @mcdawg22’s comment. I thought he was anti-banner. No wonder he thought I was stupid, guess I am……a mid level metal shack in Sebastopol"Goat?" Really? C'mon, man. That's like the equivalent of the winner of the "Tallest Building Contest" in Noxapater
I refuse, because it’s the symbol associated with going back to mediocrity and comparing ourselves with Ole MissThe script State logo 1. Feels like an ole miss logo and 2. Is generic as hell. I’m not interested in wearing anything with that on it.
Emory Bellard says "hey"
Where is Engie when you need him?So State is wearing black vs Vandy with a block "STATE" across the chest. Has anyone measure this block "STATE" to ensure the A is centered on the chest?
To be fair, I don’t see other schools making such awful logo changes like we do either.I don't know I've ever heard any other fanbase ***** about logos as much as we do.
The block STATE looks better in football and men’s basketball, way more than the script &tate. Probably because it’s more masculine and has a stronger look to it, and both of those sports are physical combative sports. The script &tate looks more feminine and weaker. Baseball it’s fine and women’s sports, if we had to have it at all. The script &tate is the worst on the football helmet, especially with that reverse treble clef S. Feminine and weakness is not what we need on our football helmets. Not to mention we are literally copying ole miss. Even for the few loud message board folks who like that on the helmet, do y’all not even care that we are literally copying ole miss?So State is wearing black vs Vandy with a block "STATE" across the chest. Has anyone measure this block "STATE" to ensure the A is centered on the chest?
Agree with all you wrote. I'm making fun of the people that make the dumb argument that the "a is off center".The block STATE looks better in football and men’s basketball, way more than the script &tate. Probably because it’s more masculine and has a stronger look to it, and both of those sports are physical combative sports. The script &tate looks more feminine and weaker. Baseball it’s fine and women’s sports, if we had to have it at all. The script &tate is the worst on the football helmet, especially with that reverse treble clef S.