NEW AP POLL! 1. Arizona 2. Michigan 3. Houston 4. Duke 5. Iowa State 6. UConn 7. Nebraska 8. Illinois 9. Kansas 10. Michigan State 11. UNC 12. Gonzaga 13. Purdue 14. Florida 15. Virginia 16. Texas Tech 17. St. John’s 18. Saint Louis 19. Vanderbilt 20. Clemson 21. Arkansas 22. BYU 23. Miami (OH) 24. Louisville 25. Kentucky
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Cats ranked!
BYU losing 4 straight and 5 of 6, and zero top-25 wins somehow ranked above us.
Miami with 19 games in Q3/4 and 3 non-division one opponents also in front of us.
Florida should be higher, etc.
BYU losing 4 straight and 5 of 6, and zero top-25 wins somehow ranked above us.
Miami with 19 games in Q3/4 and 3 non-division one opponents also in front of us.
Florida should be higher, etc.
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I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team who lost 4 in a row remained ranked, not to mention 5 of last 6. Propped up by Dybantsa and the media only, not on results.
Duke losing and remaining in the same spot is funny as well. That is also something that never happens, and I get it a last second shot on the road to beat you but a loss is a loss.
Win out and sweep the sec tournament and we will be in the top 10 and a chance at a 2 seed
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Vandy loses to 1 sec win OU at home and still ranked, really cant wait for that game in rupp.
Agreed and think we put it on them that night. Be nice to get some payback.
We aren't "winning out and the SEC-T". The first I give 5% chance, and the 2nd maybe 15% chance at best. I think 4 seed is our realistic ceiling.
I love this board. The pie n the sky is strong and perhaps understandably so with the success of late. I agree those things are unlikely.
When you look at those 4 in the 20's (UL, UK, Ark, BYU), all have 6 losses (except UK has 7). The quality of losses is similar, although UK losing at home to Missouri may be the worst.
But at the same time, UK has more "quality" wins.
Ark has 4 (in order best to worst) Texas Tech, Vandy, UL, UT
BYU has 4 Clemson, Wisconsin, Miami, Villanova
UL has 3 UK, at Cal, Indiana
UK has 5 at UT, at Ark, St. Johns, UT, Indiana
When looking at that, Ark is 4-6 vs quality opponents, BYU also 4-6 (but 5 of those 6 losses were very high quality), UL 3-6, and UK 5-7. We simply have that extra loss because we played 2-3 more quality opponents. Based on these data, I'd rank the 4 BYU, UK, Ark, UL.
But at the same time, UK has more "quality" wins.
Ark has 4 (in order best to worst) Texas Tech, Vandy, UL, UT
BYU has 4 Clemson, Wisconsin, Miami, Villanova
UL has 3 UK, at Cal, Indiana
UK has 5 at UT, at Ark, St. Johns, UT, Indiana
When looking at that, Ark is 4-6 vs quality opponents, BYU also 4-6 (but 5 of those 6 losses were very high quality), UL 3-6, and UK 5-7. We simply have that extra loss because we played 2-3 more quality opponents. Based on these data, I'd rank the 4 BYU, UK, Ark, UL.
How did unranked and 7-6 in big 10 Indiana become a quality win? SMH. Some of you guys really try to reach building a case.
Indiana is 33 in the NET currently and just outside of being a Q1 win, so maybe he was stretching that to make an argument? I don't know.
I'd put LSU on the road higher than Indiana at home despite the fact we should have blown LSU's doors off. It's currently a Q1 road win which will mean more (if it holds) to the selection committee. I'd put the Indiana home win as more a sentimental glad we beat the old rival and once blue blood category though. The home Texas win carries about the same weight (currently Q2 with Texas 36 in the Net).
As it stands we are:
Kentucky 5-6 in Q1 games and 3-1 in Q2 (that glaring home loss to Missouri, both Texas and Indiana games could become Q1 potentially)
Arkansas 5-6 in Q1 games and 3-0 in Q2
Louisville 4-6 in Q1 games and 4-0 in Q2 (Standford on the road will probably fall from Q1 loss to a Q2 loss NET:70 currently, Cal road win might fall to Q2 as well NET:60 currently)
BYU 4-6 in Q1 games 4-0 in Q2 (OK St loss will probably fall from Q1 loss to a Q2 loss NET:66 currently, Wisconsin Neutral court win might also fall from Q1 to Q2.)
Rank them however you want from there. It all changes in a week anyways.
I'd put LSU on the road higher than Indiana at home despite the fact we should have blown LSU's doors off. It's currently a Q1 road win which will mean more (if it holds) to the selection committee. I'd put the Indiana home win as more a sentimental glad we beat the old rival and once blue blood category though. The home Texas win carries about the same weight (currently Q2 with Texas 36 in the Net).
As it stands we are:
Kentucky 5-6 in Q1 games and 3-1 in Q2 (that glaring home loss to Missouri, both Texas and Indiana games could become Q1 potentially)
Arkansas 5-6 in Q1 games and 3-0 in Q2
Louisville 4-6 in Q1 games and 4-0 in Q2 (Standford on the road will probably fall from Q1 loss to a Q2 loss NET:70 currently, Cal road win might fall to Q2 as well NET:60 currently)
BYU 4-6 in Q1 games 4-0 in Q2 (OK St loss will probably fall from Q1 loss to a Q2 loss NET:66 currently, Wisconsin Neutral court win might also fall from Q1 to Q2.)
Rank them however you want from there. It all changes in a week anyways.
I have learned the following from posting on this board for decades:
We’re never as good as our best win and never as bad as our worst loss.
Multiple good wins = gonna win out
Multiple losses in short order = the program is doomed and will never recover. Ever.
Basically, this place is very bipolar and it’s best to take both extremes with a grain of salt.
Underperform, manage a 4 seed, make a final 4? Just like Cal's 2nd year? (Knock off Duke in the sweet 16 as the 2011 OSU game?
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It’s called metrics and it’s the same one the selection committee uses to compare resumes.
Top 25 polls are for fans to have something to talk about. Conference records will be weighed by strength of conference and the B1G looks to be the best conference this year.
Right now, the IU win is a solid one. If the Hoosiers play well to end the year, it could become a good win by one of the main metrics the committee uses to seed teams.
To flip this question around, why are some of you so hellbent on dismissing anything positive from this season?
I see a team that has improved, players are accepting their roles, guys are making plays for their teammates and these guys have won 8/9 and 11/14 games. That IU game wasn’t our best win, but it’s still a decent win on our resume. You act like it’s a win over 326th ranked Northwestern State Tech U. If IU moves up 3 spots in the NET, that becomes a Q1 win. Those are valuable.
Being honest about them sucking again and unranked in your mind somehow correlates to UK’s season? Weird. Stop measuring UKs season by the ability of IU to suck. Also stop trying to judge my fanhood until you can walk on water. I’m not hellbent on anything to make UK reflect in a negative light but that doesn’t mean I gotta suck IU off to validate UK either. Imagine being a smart a$$ over a barely 500 in league IU.