Shane Beamer believes Nyck Harbor will 'absolutely' play more going forward
Head coach Shane Beamer was asked about freshman receiver Nyck Harbor and thinks he'll continue to see the field in a big way moving forward.
Beamer believes Nyck Harbor will 'absolutely' play more
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He did make a catch against FLA that didn't rely on his speed. He used his size and strength to muscle a pass away from the defender which is a good sign.
I know, right? Beamer has been purposefully withholding him. No excuse.
A blind man could see Mario was a better fit than Joyner after a couple games.
So he's got a feeling he'll play more? Maybe if he was in charge he'd have more of a say in it.
So, it took them half of the season to figure this out? Ridiculous.Shane Beamer believes Nyck Harbor will 'absolutely' play more going forward
Head coach Shane Beamer was asked about freshman receiver Nyck Harbor and thinks he'll continue to see the field in a big way moving forward.www.on3.com
That is exactly what I was thinking. I obviously don't know what is happening on the practice field or in the locker room, but the language of "I believe he will play more" leaves a lot of questions on the table.
At some point he's going to have to get open. I'm glad he got that ball. Happy for him. But there was no separation on that ball. DB had him covered up. We can't have a guy that's a primarily 50/50 guy out there unless you want to be even more predictable. I just wish Beamer would just say "he needs to perfect his craft so he can be more of an option, then he'll get more balls". Nothing wrong with that statement at all. He also plays XL's position. No way in hell do I want him taking snaps from X.
Perhaps this is more foreshadowing that Juice won't be back though?
Perhaps this is more foreshadowing that Juice won't be back though?
What concerns me is that he may not be ready, but to get the fans off his back for a bit, they dangle that in front of us. Or what he says is really what he means…he’s figured it out enough to run him out there.
It's perfectly reasonable that he's progressing as the year goes on. Even after he came here, he wasn't 100% devoted to football in fall camp. So he was always going to have to use the season to learn and develop. Having said that, opposing teams have to respect his speed, so it does help there. On that deep ball to X, Harbor was on the other side. The safety on H's side took a couple of steps his way instead of covering inside on X, so Ratt just threw it as far as he could to the middle of the field and X run under it.
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I guess it's just taboo to talk about a player's deficiencies publicly. I'm not sure why. I don't see the harm in saying "So and So just needs to be a littler better at _________ before we give him a lot more snaps." I see no harm in honest, public critique. You can do it without throwing a player under the bus.
Better example is that guy called Jeffery.
He didn’t blow up until his sixth or seventh game against UK in his freshman year.
Maybe in this case Beamer might be telling us the truth. I believe the kid was playing DE and TE in HS, so there might be a slight transition to the new position
He didn’t blow up until his sixth or seventh game against UK in his freshman year.
Maybe in this case Beamer might be telling us the truth. I believe the kid was playing DE and TE in HS, so there might be a slight transition to the new position
Baloney. You expected him to say ‘bout time’ lol?
And ‘not ready’ for *what* exactly. To trot around like a certain other someone was doing?
Just be glad we wised up like we did with Anderson.
Why can other top recruits excel their first year for other programs but at USC they always seem to be two years behind?
Ok. Everyone who would know exactly what is going on with Harbor is lying to you. You guys, who have no knowledge whatsoever of his development and how quickly he’s learning a new position, are right. Happy?
there’s no one on this D good enough to be an All American. Based on the talent level I don’t think anyone player on this team could start for a top five program. Now, as they improve maybe so but not right now.
That's not the point. You said why can't we have recruits contribute early at USC. I gave you 2 examples just last year of guys that played, and started 11 games, as true freshmen and played well enough to get freshman AA honors. I'm not making that up, it's just facts. We have two freshman OL starting right now, one of which got SEC freshman lineman of the week against UGA. I would be much more concerned if Harbor had played WR his whole life and spent all summer and fall camp preparing for the year. But that's just not the case.
Maybe deciding to move from playing defensive line to wide receiver when you get to college isn't the best decision? Maybe being the coach that agrees to that move isn't the smartest thing to do?
It really looks like Harbor picked Carolina because they were the only team/coach willing to let him try and make the switch to play WR when he got to college.
It really looks like Harbor picked Carolina because they were the only team/coach willing to let him try and make the switch to play WR when he got to college.
I guess when you're USC and you have a chance to land a top 20-ish recruit, you take him no matter what.
Funny thing is, our coaches and other players were raving him about at WR in fall camp. At the time Stepp said he was making our DBs look silly, but that makes a little more sense now that we've seen our D play 6 games.
That's a terrible take. He got the same exact offer at Oregon. They were going to let him play WR as well. Acting like we only got him b/c our staff was the only one stupid enough to take him as a WR is ridiculous. When he visited Oregon Phil Knight met with him and his family. They met with Knight's legendary sneaker designer, where they showed him a mock up of his own sneaker. Knight wanted him REALLY bad. Lanning wanted him REALLY bad.
The only thing anyone said about him was his speed. Nobody talked about his hands or route running. "He's so fast". Yeah, we knew that.
If fast was all it took to be a WR, every team could recruit their school's track team and have great receivers.
Exactly my point. He's not a good WR right now. It's up to Stepp to turn him into one. His potential is sky high though b/c of his freakish athleticism.
As long as he can catch. Hands make the receiver, not the speed. Look at Renfro at clemson, not big or fast but was money catching the ball. Football is full of lightning fast guys playing DB because they can't catch and be a WR.
Harbor's future may be at safety.
Have to get open too. Nobody makes a living being a 50/50 ball guy. Renfro was ALWAYS open and had elite hands. I don't know how many times I yelled "how can you not cover that goofy little white boy" at my TV.
I like him at TE. Him matched up on a LB is much better than a cover corner. Route tree isn't nearly as complex.
Didn't he play TE in HS? The whole WR thing feels a little forced to me. It is almost like he has had this fantasy of being a WR catching long passes and he wants to become one.
That small white WR Georgia has is like another Renfro. He isn't super fast and he isn't big but he must be quick as a cat because he gets open every time he needs to.
Yeah, TE and DE. Michigan offered him as a DE, and felt like they lead for a while. But at some point he decided that training at WR would more align with his track training. I think that's the reason for the change.
Ikr. Good thing that TE was 'ready' or he may have dropped even more.