Beamer has lost me

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Who is going to play WR next year? Blake looks like he’s getting better but who else do we have? We’ll need to get some in the portal again until our new guys grow into the position. Could Wells get a a medical red-shirt year?
 

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You don't know me. But I don't support ppl who get paid $6MM just because he wears the same colors as me. In fact, I’m harsher on those guys. Beamer isn’t cutting it. You can tell whether a coach has it, especially by the 3rd year.
I’m not sure what you are expecting. I don’t think anyone who has any football sense believed that replicating last seasons W/L record was a foregone conclusion. A complete mess was inherited. Outside of Legette, the most consistent contributors have been Beamer signees. If he can keep the incoming OL class together, that will be the key to future success.

There aren’t many coaches who can do what Deion has done with the portal, and like it or not we are not the destination we had turned into 2010-2013.

No doubt he has done some he’s scratching things. Loggains overall has not done a bad job. OL coach needs to be replaced, and White needs to be placed in notice.
 

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I’m not sure what you are expecting. I don’t think anyone who has any football sense believed that replicating last seasons W/L record was a foregone conclusion. A complete mess was inherited. Outside of Legette, the most consistent contributors have been Beamer signees. If he can keep the incoming OL class together, that will be the key to future success.

There aren’t many coaches who can do what Deion has done with the portal, and like it or not we are not the destination we had turned into 2010-2013.

No doubt he has done some he’s scratching things. Loggains overall has not done a bad job. OL coach needs to be replaced, and White needs to be placed in notice.


Maybe not "forgone conclusion" but a lot of people had high expectations this year.

I asked last year to get a thread stuck to the top with yearly predictions, but it didn't happen.

It sure would be nice to not rely on revisionist history, and to have a thread right there so we can all see who was talking 8,9 or 10 wins.
 

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That’s my point. We on here have high expectations, as we should. Those with no attachment to the program see progress, but I doubt any of those were expecting 9 wins. Heck, just go back to the Vegas line on wins.
Going in, here is what I thought (keep in mind this was my thoughts before the season began).

1. UNC- Thought it would be a 50/50 game, with UNC a slight pick. If it was at home or later in the season, I would say we had the light lean.

2. Furman- W

3.Georgia- L…we played better than I expected

4. MSU…W…thought we’d beat a little easier than we did; thought they’d struggle for a bit without the Pirate.

5. Tenn- L…figured the Neyland crowd would play a role.

6. FL- 50/50 game W…being at home gives us the edge

7. Mizzou- 50/50 game L…as much as it pains me, we just can’t seem to get over that bump yet. This and KY games are the two that really define the steps we are taking.

8. A&M- L… they paid way too much to lose to us at this point again….especially at home.

9. Jacksonville - W

10. Vandy- W

11. KY- 50/50 game W…being at home gives us an edge

12. Clemson- W…being at home gives us an edge


I had us at 7 wins. That was before I saw this OL. If they can get to average, I still say we win 7. They don’t, we will win 5, and maybe 6.

I still say we are headed in the right direction. The talent gap is still wide, but I do believe that the kids Beamer is bringing in will continue to shrink the gap. But it is of the utmost importance to keep this OL class together.
 

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Gotcha. Looks like your all’s scheme is pretty good, but its hard to overcome the oline deficiencies.
We started 2 true freshmen the OL and would have a third TF starting but he we lost him for the year in fall camp. The freshman LT had a horrid night, but he played great at UGA. Didn’t give up a sack and was OL of the week.

Was really impressed with your running game. Hope you guys keep it up and take down UGA.
 

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Who is going to play WR next year? Blake looks like he’s getting better but who else do we have? We’ll need to get some in the portal again until our new guys grow into the position. Could Wells get a a medical red-shirt year?
Was thinking about that with Juice. Obviously he didn’t like his draft grade this year. Can’t imagine it getting better after missing all year with a foot. He could come back. We’re going to have to hit the portal for at least 1 WR.
 

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I’m still a Beamer believer. Need to get better players in. And it we’ll see how he handles coaching staff going forward as there are some weaknesses.

This game was going to be difficult to win. I was more disappointed in how we played than the result. Still, not sure we’re going to find anything out there better than Beamer at this point. He’s either going to win big, or look really silly flaming out.
...and keep them. Our outgoing was greater than our incoming this year, markedly greater. Here's the deal, I like Beamer and I want him to be The Guy, for all our sakes. The rest of this year appears to be very problematic in terms of bowl eligibility and I don't see how in the world next year's schedule, at least in the conference, won't be tougher than this year's. He'll have to work monumentally hard to get this program on better footing in the time it would take to avert another Muschamp saga. The next 14 months are crucial.
 

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We started 2 true freshmen the OL and would have a third TF starting but he we lost him for the year in fall camp. The freshman LT had a horrid night, but he played great at UGA. Didn’t give up a sack and was OL of the week.

Was really impressed with your running game. Hope you guys keep it up and take down UGA.
Thanks and hope the rest of the season goes well for you guys. You all can beat Florida. We did our annual no show for that game, but they don’t rush the passer very well and I think rattler will have time to have a big game.
 
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Maybe I do and maybe I don't. But for certain Beamer isn't the answer. Sorry to soil your dress, Sally.
Here is your problem:
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You have a coach who rides emotions like a 13 year old girl. Above is when Squirrel made that catch. Below is after he realized it was caught. He just isn't cut out to be a head ball coach.

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You fellers deserve a real coach. You have one of the top fanbases in the SEC and should have an administration that invests much more in your football coach than your women's bb coach. After the insane disaster we went though over a decade and a half we finally got the right University President, Chancellor and AD in place. That is where it starts and they all have to understand how important football is to the well being of the school.
 
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Here is your problem:
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You have a coach who rides emotions like a 13 year old girl. Above is when Squirrel made that catch. Below is after he realized it was caught. He just isn't cut out to be a head ball coach.

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You fellers deserve a real coach. You have one of the top fanbases in the SEC and should have an administration that invests much more in your football coach than your women's bb coach. After the insane disaster we went though over a decade and a half we finally got the right University President, Chancellor and AD in place. That is where it starts and they all have to understand how important football is to the well being of the school.
Agree…waaay too emotional.

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Here is your problem:
View attachment 416668
You have a coach who rides emotions like a 13 year old girl. Above is when Squirrel made that catch. Below is after he realized it was caught. He just isn't cut out to be a head ball coach.

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You fellers deserve a real coach. You have one of the top fanbases in the SEC and should have an administration that invests much more in your football coach than your women's bb coach. After the insane disaster we went though over a decade and a half we finally got the right University President, Chancellor and AD in place. That is where it starts and they all have to understand how important football is to the well being of the school.
I like his passion.
 
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Here is your problem:
View attachment 416668
You have a coach who rides emotions like a 13 year old girl. Above is when Squirrel made that catch. Below is after he realized it was caught. He just isn't cut out to be a head ball coach.

View attachment 416669
You fellers deserve a real coach. You have one of the top fanbases in the SEC and should have an administration that invests much more in your football coach than your women's bb coach. After the insane disaster we went though over a decade and a half we finally got the right University President, Chancellor and AD in place. That is where it starts and they all have to understand how important football is to the well being of the school.

Here is your problem:
View attachment 416668
You have a coach who rides emotions like a 13 year old girl. Above is when Squirrel made that catch. Below is after he realized it was caught. He just isn't cut out to be a head ball coach.

View attachment 416669
You fellers deserve a real coach. You have one of the top fanbases in the SEC and should have an administration that invests much more in your football coach than your women's bb coach. After the insane disaster we went though over a decade and a half we finally got the right University President, Chancellor and AD in place. That is where it starts and they all have to understand how important football is to the well being of the school.
Yeah to your point exactly, I don't think we need to be taking coach hiring advice from Tennessee! It might work in your favor in the long run and it's been a long long run, but I'll take an emotional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!
 
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Yeah to your point exactly, I don't think we need to be taking coach hiring advice from Tennessee! It might work in your favor in the long run and it's been a long long run, but I'll take an emtional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!
Emotional coach whipped TN butt last year, when it mattered most. When TN had a better team.
 

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Yeah to your point exactly, I don't think we need to be taking coach hiring advice from Tennessee! It might work in your favor in the long run and it's been a long long run, but I'll take an emtional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!
And there you have it, the cause of over 100 years of failure and consistent losing summed up in one long, run on sentence. "but I'll take an emtional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!".
 

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I’m not sure what you are expecting. I don’t think anyone who has any football sense believed that replicating last seasons W/L record was a foregone conclusion. A complete mess was inherited. Outside of Legette, the most consistent contributors have been Beamer signees. If he can keep the incoming OL class together, that will be the key to future success.

There aren’t many coaches who can do what Deion has done with the portal, and like it or not we are not the destination we had turned into 2010-2013.

No doubt he has done some he’s scratching things. Loggains overall has not done a bad job. OL coach needs to be replaced, and White needs to be placed in notice.
Stop it...you're making too much sense.
 

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And there you have it, the cause of over 100 years of failure and consistent losing summed up in one long, run on sentence. "but I'll take an emtional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!".
I believe you're around .500 against us in the last 20 years, but keep giving advice!
 

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And there you have it, the cause of over 100 years of failure and consistent losing summed up in one long, run on sentence. "but I'll take an emtional coach everyday over a guy with no emotion at all, but that's just me!".
Maybe we'll get another banner to fly over your next game congratulating you on your Super Bowl win.
 

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Maybe we'll get another banner to fly over your next game congratulating you on your Super Bowl win.
Lol! That was a great moment in CFB. A fanbase that is so beat down and starved of wins actually went to the expense of renting an airplane with a banner celebrating two wins like that!!! Maybe you all should have saved that $$ for your NIL for some OL, DL and running backs. No question you should have spent that time focusing on that Gator Bowl.
 
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Lol! That was a great moment in CFB. A fanbase that is so beat down and starved of wins actually went to the expense of renting an airplane with a banner celebrating two wins like that!!! Maybe you all should have saved that $$ for your NIL for some OL, DL and running backs. No question you should have spent that time focusing on that Gator Bowl.
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We should not have hired a coach with no experience if the idea was to wait 6 or 7 years for him to learn/grow.

That is too long of a window, imho.
Our last coach had experience. All the other coaches in his class didn't do much at their new schools. I say as long as recruiting is top 25 to stick with beamer
 
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He has not lost me, but he needs to replace some of the rah-rah attitude with definitive action.
 
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Our last coach had experience. All the other coaches in his class didn't do much at their new schools. I say as long as recruiting is top 25 to stick with beamer

I get what you're saying. It bothers me to say (if I read you right) that we should go for a non experienced coach just because an experienced coach failed.

That seems like going in the wrong direction.

My comment was just about the time frame though. I don't think 6 or 7 years is reasonable to throw away hoping someone grows into the job.
 

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Our last coach had experience. All the other coaches in his class didn't do much at their new schools. I say as long as recruiting is top 25 to stick with beamer
Agree. I wanted Tom Herman so bad instead of Muschamp. You just never know. However he needs to be recruiting in the 15-20 range to make any noise.
 

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I get what you're saying. It bothers me to say (if I read you right) that we should go for a non experienced coach just because an experienced coach failed.

That seems like going in the wrong direction.

My comment was just about the time frame though. I don't think 6 or 7 years is reasonable to throw away hoping someone grows into the job.
6-7 is too long, especially in the portal era. But 4-5 should be reasonable. We can't ignore our history. It took a HOF coach 5 years to put a good product on the field in a time where UGA and UT weren't anywhere near as good as they are today, but UF was rolling back then and sucks now.
 
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LMCO! Those were the worst years of our program and we still maintained a winning record over you all.
Exactly, the era with face masks, you're sharp! Since we're talking history, obviously you won't forget the answer to the question, what is this worst loss in our programs history!
 

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He has not lost me, but he needs to replace some of the rah-rah attitude with definitive action.
You can have both. He's not just going to stop being a positive person. That's just who he is. But he can stop with the "we need to get X player on the field", and just do it. Having said that, HBC said "we need to coach em up better" for 5 years before he put a good product on the field here.
 

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Our last coach had experience. All the other coaches in his class didn't do much at their new schools. I say as long as recruiting is top 25 to stick with beamer
top 25 isn't good enough...that only gets you 8th or 9th in the SEC
 
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I'm going to say it...and this is in all honesty......I believe there is only 1 coach in this world that could get us to national championship caliber...and you know who that is..."come play for Prime in the SEC" is a helluva pitch to 18 year olds.....hell he's getting 4 and 5 stars for officials to a scholl that won 1 game last year and is in a conference that wont exist next year....he's the only one that could pull it off....no knock on Beamer ...I dont think even Kirby could get the recruits here...just Prime
 

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Don't care how much he loves Cola and SC. He's not the the hot genius that's it's going to take.
My problem with this take is this: Steve Spurrier was objectively one of the greatest college football coaches ever. He is a hall of famer. He did not manage to break out beyond 6-7 wins a season here until his sixth season. I think his time here established the blueprint on how we succeed- hire a good coach and give him time to build it. Now a key part of this is maintaining good recruiting and maintaining a sense that things are heading in the right direction to keep the momentum going. A few 4-5 win seasons kills that. Particularly once you are beyond the first few seasons. So far Beamer is on track in the same way Spurrier was. He’s gotten some big wins and is getting us to bowls, seems to be doing pretty well in recruiting. Until we have more depth to overcome injuries we are going to have ups and downs
 
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My problem with this take is this: Steve Spurrier was objectively one of the greatest college football coaches ever. He is a hall of famer. He did not manage to break out beyond 6-7 wins a season here until his sixth season. I think his time here established the blueprint on how we succeed- hire a good coach and give him time to build it. Now a key part of this is maintaining good recruiting and maintaining a sense that things are heading in the right direction to keep the momentum going. A few 4-5 win seasons kills that. Particularly once you are beyond the first few seasons. So far Beamer is on track in the same way Spurrier was. He’s gotten some big wins and is getting us to bowls, seems to be doing pretty well in recruiting. Until we have more depth to overcome injuries we are going to have ups and downs
THIS RIGHT HERE!! There were warning signs with HBC that were ignored by RT. I was hopeful Muschamp learned his lesson...then he hired a guy that helped get him fired from UF.

Beamer's legacy here will be told in the coming 20-24 months.
 

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My problem with this take is this: Steve Spurrier was objectively one of the greatest college football coaches ever. He is a hall of famer. He did not manage to break out beyond 6-7 wins a season here until his sixth season. I think his time here established the blueprint on how we succeed- hire a good coach and give him time to build it. Now a key part of this is maintaining good recruiting and maintaining a sense that things are heading in the right direction to keep the momentum going. A few 4-5 win seasons kills that. Particularly once you are beyond the first few seasons. So far Beamer is on track in the same way Spurrier was. He’s gotten some big wins and is getting us to bowls, seems to be doing pretty well in recruiting. Until we have more depth to overcome injuries we are going to have ups and downs
this reiterates my post above....Spurrier was a top 5 coach of all time and couldn't get us past the Capitol One Bowl...we dont need a coach we need a splash to get the recruits...bring on Deion...plus he has some sorta ties to SC right???...his son was here for a minute and the game vs Jax St this year was his doing wasnt it???
 

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this reiterates my post above....Spurrier was a top 5 coach of all time and couldn't get us past the Capitol One Bowl...we dont need a coach we need a splash to get the recruits...bring on Deion...plus he has some sorta ties to SC right???...his son was here for a minute and the game vs Jax St this year was his doing wasnt it???
Spurrier built a team good enough to win the SEC while he was here, we just didn’t have the luck it inevitably takes to have it happen. The year we went to the championship game Cam came out of nowhere for Auburn, and then for a few seasons after that we would have gone back but for the fact Georgia’s only loss was to us because they had ridiculously easy conference schedules
 

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I have not seen anyone discuss the play of Stone Blanton. He is slow. He blocks himself. He has little football IQ playing a position that needs ton of that. This position (linebacker) needs to focus on the ball, react and be in a position to make most of the tackles....that is not the case. Watch him closely on play after play. He is lost. Watch the touch down run where they double team both down linemen and Stone goes away from the gaping hole...is he scared to tackle???? Teams are recognizing this fact and running right at him. In the Georgia game he is lost. He does the same thing and if the Georgia QB was good he had Stone's coverage wide open but Georgia QB missed it over and over.

There are critical positions lacking on this team. Offense-Running back, linemen and WR. Defense- Linebacker and apparently DB's. Positive thing is the defensive linemen appear to have been taught to find lanes and get their hands up to bat down balls. There is no excuse at all to be at this point without running backs with the portal giving you that opportunity. Somebody better figure out the portal and start right now.