Belated thoughts on the La Tech game.

AzzurriDawg4

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I will try not to rehash what Coach covered - I thought he did a pretty good job. If you don't care, don't read. <div>
</div><div>1. Knockback. I heard Trent Dilfer talk about this while analyzing the Eagles, and this is our problem as well. You want to know what "knockback" is? Rewatch LSU's D-line against our O-line. That is what we should have done against LaTech too. There is no push from either line. We tried to run a counter with Ballard at one point and Saulsberry was just laying flat on the ground in our backfield. Ballard had to jump over him and of course was tackled shortly thereafter. Gabe Jackson does an "ole" in the redzone and lets a LB knife into the backfield to absolutely hammer Ballard. How in the world were Cox and Boyd able to cause a little disruption vs. LSU but none vs. Auburn or LaTech? </div><div>
</div><div>2. D-Line continued. It is as if our line is so scared about containment (presumably from practicing all spring and fall against Relf) that we refuse to just rip into the backfield and look for something to destroy. We heard all of this talk from Wilson when he first got here that he was all about the D-line doing whatever it took to get upfield and get to the QB. This is NOT how they have been coached. I am not asking for sacks. Truthfully, they are hard to come by in the college game - especially against a quickfire team such as LaTech. I am asking for pressure. And folks, this is not a new phenomenon. Just consider our pass rush since Wilson arrived. Think about how much McPhee was in the backfield his Junior year as compared to last year. Watch our DE's bullrush the line and make no effort to get past their blocker. Cox and Boyd aren't commanding double teams. Why? Because they are content to just drive the blocker in front of them back, and they really arent succeeding at that. This is coaching, and this coaching philosophy, combined with our soft coverage, is a recipe for disaster. Our ends are not worldbeaters, but they have been coached into a non-factor role. Twist, stunt, spin, rip, speed-rush...anything, just get in the backfield. </div><div>
</div><div>3. Linebackers. I thought the LBs played pretty well overall. How many Cam Lawrence haters do we still have out there? Dude is the unquestioned leader of our defense.</div><div>
</div><div>4. Secondary. Banks and Whitley are ballers. Broomfield has his limitations, but he is definitely not a weakness. The weak link right now is Mitchell. Go back and watch a few games and focus on Mitchell, you will be shocked. For every decent play he makes, he completely misses a play. He peaked hissophomoreyear, when he was fortunate to get a couple of picks and was making plays against the run. He has always been a liability in coverage but a good run supporter, and now he can't make flag football tackles because he is completely missing people. I am pretty sure he has been targeted or shared responsibility on almost every big play we have given up this year. Blake's big TD at Auburn, Randle's TD - was he in coverage on LaTech's TD pass? And yes, I still think Banks should be back at safety. The combination of Whitley's hitting and Banks coverage ability would really shore up the middle of the field. Note that all of Banks' picks (I am pretty sure for his whole career) have been when he is squared up with the QB or coming forward. He is not a track-back corner that will jump a slant in coverage or rob a deep post on the fly (or at least he hasn't shown it yet). What he can do, and maybe better than anyone in the conference right now, is face-up a play, read the QB and make a play on the ball in the air. His pick against LaTech was a centerfield-type pick. He is a very good corner, but I think he could be a great safety. </div><div>
</div><div>5. Special Teams. Swedenburg is saving our butts. Banks and Bump looking good on PR. Still need someone else opposite Jameon on KR. Still can't kick it - that is not going to change this year, so time to stop talking about it I guess.</div><div>
</div><div>6. Offense. I will just speak generally about the offense, since nearly everything has been covered here. Simply put, Relf has been off target. Throwing the ball on the wrong shoulder, throwing it late, etc. He had a few opportunities to throw his receivers open and missed. Seam to Ballard, deep posts to Carr and Clark. If he was on vs. LaTech, it would have been a blowout. Vs. LSU it would have been a lot closer. This has been exacerbated by our inability to run the ball like we want to. Playcalling was odd. It is like we go into every game with a completely different gameplan just for the sake of being unique, instead of just doing what works. Have we seen the conventional double-option since the first play of the LSU game? Tubby Lewis made a great grab over the middle Saturday and has not made a single error that I can think of (outside of special teams) - his snaps need to be doubled. </div><div>
</div><div>7. O-Line. Since the Carmon thing has come up, let me just say that it seems a little too late to do something like this. I could understand if Carmon was a career O-lineman that had practiced at multiple positions. In theory it could be a great idea, but with flawless execution already at a premium, it concerns me to have someone else learning a position on the fly. Call me crazy, but Brignone might have been a bigger loss for our particular offense than Sherrod. </div><div>
</div><div>8. Bonehead calls. Mullen is good for about 1 per game. Fake punt, check. He almost made 2 with that last play call. Doing that with the most accurate FG kicker in MSU history on your bench is just crazy. I am glad it worked and I hope it give Relf some confidence going forward, but 17. Not going for the win at the end of regulation? Come on, man. </div><div>
</div><div>9. Speaking of bonehead calls, Thank you LaTech for throwing up a prayer instead of icing the game and kicking a FG. We almost screwed that up by completely squashing the momentum on our ensuing drive. Ballard for 6 yards, pass, pass, punt. Thanks.</div><div>
</div><div>Rest of season:</div><div>UGA - I said I would wait until after Ole Miss to call this one, and this weekend definitely didnt give me warm fuzzies. We will have to see a combination of our offensive output vs. Auburn and our defensive output v. LSU to win this game. Good news is that it is a pro-style offense. I have to say L and hope I am proved wrong. </div><div>UAB - Win. They are not as good as LaTech.</div><div>USC- For now, loss, but we can definitely beat them at home. Win 2 coming into this game and I like our chances. Unfortunately, this team is going to be feast or famine based on Relf's accuracy in each game. Hard to tell when the "feast" is going to occur, but this is a good a time as any.</div><div>UK - Win. They are worse than Ole Miss.</div><div>UTM- Win.</div><div>Bama- ugly. Their defense is the Pittsburgh to LSU's Baltimore. LSU blows stuff up in the backfield. Bama lets you think you have a chance, then murders you at the line of scrimmage or takes away your entire passing game.</div><div>ARK- Loss. You could still see how good Wilson can be despite their result at Bama. Too tall a task on the road.</div><div>Ole Miss - Win. </div><div>
</div><div>6-6. I still dont think we fall below 6 wins, but we will have to see a lot of improvement to get to 7. We got it last year, I hope we do it again. Get to 7 and we could have a pretty cool matchup with the ACC in Nashville, at least that is my hope. Come off this road trip with 2 wins and we are back on track. </div><div>
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AzzurriDawg4 said:
<div>7. O-Line. Since the Carmon thing has come up, let me just say that it seems a little too late to do something like this. I could understand if Carmon was a career O-lineman that had practiced at multiple positions. In theory it could be a great idea, but with flawless execution already at a premium, it concerns me to have someone else learning a position on the fly. Call me crazy, but Brignone might have been a bigger loss for our particular offense than Sherrod. </div>
It's not like Carmon is going to have much less of a clue how to play OG than he does how to play OT. As I've been saying all year, when you move a SR DL to starting OL you've got a real problem. I thought we'd do a little better job hiding that problem than we have, but I knew it would hurt us.
 

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1) I also heard Trent Dilfer give his knockback speech.


That being said, running the ball up the middle on the 1 yard line is a highly stupid call considering the defense has virtually all of its humanity stacked in the middle.


Of course, if like Mississippi, you have the 2nd best OL in the nation, I can see applying the knockback theory on the 1 yd. line.


2) DL is being coached wrong. I don't know why, but they are.


3) LB are okay. Maye was out for the La Tech game, & it showed. From what I've seen recently, the irascible Shumley is the only one who has talked **** about Cam Lawrence.


4) Secondary is also being coached wrong. Again, I have no idea why.


5) ST's are improving. I agree with everybody else here that you can drive 10 miles in either direction of Starkville & find a guy who can kick the football to the endzone. If you want to ***** about recruiting, this is by far the biggest flaw in Mullen's recruiting to date.


6) Relf is off currently, but Relf usually improves as the season goes on. Having said that, the play-calling has been pathetic to date. For the third time, I don't know why.


7) Injuries has put the OLmen in a tough spot. But I like the way they battle. They are hanging in there. I'll give them that.


8) Already addressed.


9) La Tech panicked. Otherwise, they would have won the game.
 

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The D-Line is supposed to absorb the blocks and allow the LB's the shoot the gaps and play side to side. That's how Wright and White had so many tackles last year. Brandon Wilson had like 18 tackles Saturday. That's crazy. That'saround 200 on the year if he could keep that average.
Having said that I'm not sure I like it, especially with our LB's right now.
 

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Back in the spring I suggested to some friends that perhaps we do with Mitchell what Auburn did with Daron Bates. Put him a LB. That would have given us (presumably) a better or at least more experienced defender at LB, while allowing Broomfield, Banks, Nickoe and Bonner to man the secondary with I guess Anderson, Slay and Arrington rotating in. Mitchell would be a small LB no doubt, but he's nearly the same size (listed) as Wells and Hughes.
 

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http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/reply/507436/Marcello-tweets-that-Banks-may-play-some-receiver-or-QB#reply-507436

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Banks always looked better as a safety too me, despite his size, it just gives him more opportunities to make a play. I would move Mitchell closer to the line as more of a hybrid S/LB (he is better against the run anyway), have Banks and Whitley in the back and let Slay man the corner with Broomfield.
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I guess it is just a question of who is hurting us more on the line, Day or Clausell. Day's bad snaps and spotty blocking seem to have decided that. FWIW, I still think he is going to be a good one.
 

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With the hurry up offense we're averaging 5 more offensive playsper game than last year. Our run/pass ratio is 60/40 compared to the last two years when it was 68/32. So with a few more plays a game plus the shift to a more balanced offense, we're now throwing the ball on average 30 times a game (actually more than 30 times if you consider the 8 sacks we've taken). Last year we averagedjust over22 pass attempts per game.

Something seems wrong here. We've got decent RBs with Ballard, Perkins, and heck - even Elliott (who is on pace to touch the ball maybe 20 times this year). We've got playmakers at WR that good for a few runs every game. We have two new, inexperienced starters on the OL. And we've got maybe the most mobile QB in the SEC - yet we come out throwing likethe 2010Auburngame?
 

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They don't make a concerted effort to get in to the backfield. They rush straight ahead and then make no effort to get off their blocks most of the time, no swim moves, no rolls, nothing, just a straight ahead rush, try to contain, then hope the whistle blows. I was saying this to myself against LSU, but they are LSU so I let it go. We should have sacked/ hit / hurried that 17ing 17 year old QB from LA Tech lot more than we did. UGA's passing game didn't look great against Ole Miss, but if we are content to let QB's sit in the pocket all day, then they will torch us.
 

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1) You are right about the DL. We are lacking depth at DT and anything resembling a playmaker at DE, but our scheme has a lot to do with this. I'm too lazy to look this up, but I can't remember Oklahoma defensive lineman putting up great stats when Wilson was there, and I know Wilson was a the DEs coach. McPhee's production declined dramatically when Turner left, and a lot of that has to do with coaching. It should come as no surprise that McPhee has suddenly become a competent pass rusher with the Ravens.

2) Our WRs have struggled to get open for three years now, but some of this has to do with scheme. Someone with more football knowledge than me can break this down, but our coaches should be able to find a way to free the WRs up on occasion. Boise State has WRs running wide open all day against Georgia, and our WR corp is more athletic than Boise State's. Stanford is another school that doesn't have a great WR corp but manages to have guys running wide open quite often. I'm sure having incredible QBs make this a little easier, but there are things we could do better here.

3) I agree wholeheartedly about moving Banks to safety. Banks isn't a true lock-down corner, but he is as good as anyone in the country (yes, I went there) at reading the QB and making a play on the ball. His ball skills are sick, and he just has a knack for making plays. I have no clue how ready Slay is to play at CB, but he is a damn good athlete and should be halfway decent. As of right now, Mitchell is the worst of the three safeties we are playing. He has always sucked against the pass, but he could at least tackle. He can't even do that now. Whitley is the only safety on the team who seems to consistently make plays in the passing game. It should come as no surprise that he already has more career interceptions than Whitley or Bonner.

4) What the hell happened to us running screen plays. In the three years Mullen has been here, late last season was the only time we ever ran screens to the RB. And they worked. Why can't we still do that. Also, how we come we seem scared to throw across the middle? We never run slants or other timing routes like that. I guess Relf doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the coaches.

The most depressing thing to me is that we are probably going to have to get used to years like this. Mullen isn't bringing in enough talent for us to really take another step. Our recruiting on the OL/DL has been far from impressive, and it is showing.