Best performance by a Penn State QB in a bowl game?

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Statistically, the answer might surprise you.

So Hackenberg had the best game STATICALLY of all time interesting ,never would have guessed so true . Personally I would have thought Collins in the Rose , but Hack wow . Statiscally speaking , not won , loss .
 

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It stated stats not won ,lost record but stats
Not to be argumentative, but a won-loss record is a statistic. Quarterback is the only football position where it is considered a stat, but it is, just like pitchers in baseball.
 
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Your not but read the article , it explains everything .
I did read it and the focus is not just on stats but "performance". In fact, the title is "Best performance". While you and I may disagree on whether qb win and losses are stats, the author says "A lot of factors can determine a quarterback’s performance. If you take into account leadership, consider Chuck Burkhart’s performance in the 1969 Orange Bowl against Kansas." That said, I will let you have the last word if you so choose. Happy Holidays pap!
 

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I did read it and the focus is not just on stats but "performance". In fact, the title is "Best performance". While you and I may disagree on whether qb win and losses are stats, the author says "A lot of factors can determine a quarterback’s performance. If you take into account leadership, consider Chuck Burkhart’s performance in the 1969 Orange Bowl against Kansas." That said, I will let you have the last word if you so choose. Happy Holidays pap!
So why did Hack get the nod ? HHMM .I guess the difference for us I prefer the skilled and talented QB , as I stated I thought Colins would the winner but alas .

My teams were the 82 and 94 squads , but that is me . Merry Christmas fairgambit and Happy new year . May your holidays be healthy and fruitful .
 
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I did read it and the focus is not just on stats but "performance". In fact, the title is "Best performance". While you and I may disagree on whether qb win and losses are stats, the author says "A lot of factors can determine a quarterback’s performance. If you take into account leadership, consider Chuck Burkhart’s performance in the 1969 Orange Bowl against Kansas." That said, I will let you have the last word if you so choose. Happy Holidays pap!
He is not a big John Shaffer fan.

to say that hackenBerg is number 1 in the pin stripe bowl? As nice as that is it doesn’t really compare to other qbs in the big games from burkhart to Clifford and so may in between. National championships on one level, undefeated seasons on another and then Major bowls and then possibly a couple of exceptions in lesser bowls like when the fiesta bowl wasn’t a major.
 

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He is not a big John Shaffer fan.

to say that hackenBerg is number 1 in the pin stripe bowl? As nice as that is it doesn’t really compare to other qbs in the big games from burkhart to Clifford and so may in between. National championships on one level, undefeated seasons on another and then Major bowls and then possibly a couple of exceptions in lesser bowls like when the fiesta bowl wasn’t a major.
And what makes you say that ? I have met John several times as I told you before and he is a class act and true gentleman , and was a very successful business man on wall street .

The difference is and always will be he did not have the abilities of a QB I prefer to some other posters in here . John could never have run the 82 or 94 Offences . He was and always will be a true ground and pound type QB , hand the ball off and get out of the way .He was a true genius at that .
 
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Penn State has never had an exceptional throwing performance in a major bowl game relative to today's standards. The closest was by Todd B in the Sugar Bowl when he made throws WHEN the team needed it. His performance was over shadowed by Warner's performance surpassing H Walkers. McSorley's Rose Bowl performance was Farvian in that he kept both teams in the game. Had Bell not been injured on his interception perhaps Trace would have surpassed Blackledge. My personal favorites after the Sugar Bowl win over Georgia were the Michael Robinson Orange Bowl especially to #43 (Ethan WhatsHisFace the 1st) before halftime, a Sacca game against Tennessee and then an epic Holiday Bowl mostly remembered by Gary Brown's TD but actually David Daniels made our QB look glorious.

regarding Burkhart, long live that guy. His style of play stamped our brand well into the 1990's.
 

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Penn State has never had an exceptional throwing performance in a major bowl game relative to today's standards. The closest was by Todd B in the Sugar Bowl when he made throws WHEN the team needed it. His performance was over shadowed by Warner's performance surpassing H Walkers. McSorley's Rose Bowl performance was Farvian in that he kept both teams in the game. Had Bell not been injured on his interception perhaps Trace would have surpassed Blackledge. My personal favorites after the Sugar Bowl win over Georgia were the Michael Robinson Orange Bowl especially to #43 (Ethan WhatsHisFace the 1st) before halftime, a Sacca game against Tennessee and then an epic Holiday Bowl mostly remembered by Gary Brown's TD but actually David Daniels made our QB look glorious.

regarding Burkhart, long live that guy. His style of play stamped our brand well into the 1990's.
How do you figure on style of play by chance , just curious ?
 

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The Pinstripe Bowl was PSU's first bowl game after sanctions were lifted so it was in it's own way a significant game.
Yes agreed. Penn State has had many rejuvenation games adding to our rich history as America's College Football Program. The Pinstripe game was more about Chris Godwin than Hack, although Hack's decision, along with Derek William's, to commit to PSU was vital to the program. The Pinstripe Bowl surpassed the 1985 win against Maryland (20-17) when Shoeless Mike Zordich had a pick 6 against an over-rated Terp team and launched a two year romp as the focal point in NCAA football, after a dismal 6-5 1984 year including a first in a generation loss to WVU, Don "I need a face" Nehlen.
 
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Yes agreed. Penn State has had many rejuvenation games adding to our rich history as America's College Football Program. The Pinstripe game was more about Chris Godwin than Hack, although Hack's decision, along with Derek William's, to commit to PSU was vital to the program. The Pinstripe Bowl surpassed the 1985 win against Maryland (20-17) when Shoeless Mike Zordich had a pick 6 against an over-rated Terp team and launched a two year romp as the focal point in NCAA football, after a dismal 6-5 1984 year including a first in a generation loss to WVU, Don "I need a face" Nehlen.
You’re class of ‘78? Asking because I would have been, too, had I graduated.
 
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So Hackenberg had the best game STATICALLY of all time interesting ,never would have guessed so true . Personally I would have thought Collins in the Rose , but Hack wow . Statiscally speaking , not won , loss .
I read it as Mcsorely’s against Georgia was the best, he just didn’t have enough time. If you want to go by stats per minute played( which can be a stat)
 

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McGloin was impressive to fit 5 interceptions into one game and almost making me stroke out in Tampa.
 
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Sounds like 86 OB with John S and it wasn't his fault

Not quite the same stakes but that killed me. We had Miami and FSU in our pockets and were very close to having the Gators too. Now's it's an ugly 0-3 forever.
 

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John Hufnagel, 1972 Cotton Bowl.

Hufnagel led a 30-6 victory over Texas, who only a couple years before had been voted #1 over an undefeated Penn State team on a multiple year undefeated streak.

At the time Penn State was still suffering from the “Eastern” football label. They had yet to establish themselves among the elite teams in college football. The Cotton Bowl victory did much to silent the critics. It helped to make possible the high rankings that led to multiple national championship seasons over the next decade.

Hufnagle ran and passed for touchdowns in the game.
 

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John Hufnagel, 1972 Cotton Bowl.

Hufnagel led a 30-6 victory over Texas, who only a couple years before had been voted #1 over an undefeated Penn State team on a multiple year undefeated streak.

At the time Penn State was still suffering from the “Eastern” football label. They had yet to establish themselves among the elite teams in college football. The Cotton Bowl victory did much to silent the critics. It helped to make possible the high rankings that led to multiple national championship seasons over the next decade.

Hufnagle ran and passed for touchdowns in the game.
I remember the game well .
 
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The Pinstripe Bowl was PSU's first bowl game after sanctions were lifted so it was in it's own way a significant game.

I was at that game and next to some BC fans. They were very nice and sporting until overtime, then they were unbearable. So satisfying when Hack plunged the dagger into their hearts with a 3rd and 15 completion in OT to Jesse James and then seconds later with the game winning TD to Kyle Carter.

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