Big Ten, SEC to talk possible scheduling partnership

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Sources in both leagues told ESPN on Monday they would prefer to have potentially four automatic bids each to the playoff when the next contract begins in 2026.
 

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For all you folks who were crying about the SEC/BIG 10 dissolving and forming a super conference. That's not how wielding power works. They are "not part" of the path forward, they are the path forward.

The top two or three presidents/ADs who "influence" the conference (Bama, UGA?) where never going to share power with TOSU and Michigan.

They may potentially bring in some additional members (UNC would be the ultimate prize for the SEC), but everyone already in either league is safe.
 

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You had to know this was coming. Get ready for 9 SEC games + a Big 10 game and maybe an ACC/Big 12 game too.
Yep. Paying big money to everyone, big rosters, big TV contracts.....you got to have the big games. I bet the FCS games go away. Getting 4 teams in the playoff, minimum and regardless of record, is the hook that will get Sankey to do this. People are tired of having those gimme games (well, except Lebby).

I hope they also expand the playoff to 16. I think a lot of people would be for that. And get rid of the conference championship games.....they are useless. The extra playoff games will more than make up for that money. I mean shlt you have teams angling to NOT have to play the extra game right now, but still slide in the playoff. Conference title means nothing now. Think of them like the basketball and baseball tourneys.

And all of this is worse for MSU. It just keeps coming.
 

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Slight side topic, but I happened to be reading about conference TV deals this past weekend, and I'd forgotten about these numbers

SEC: 10 year deal beginning in 2024 that pays 300M annually or 18.75M/yr per school
Big10: 7 year deal beginning in 2022 that pays 1,142M anually or 63.4M/yr per school

Am I completely missing something or did the SEC negotiate the latest round of TV contracts very poorly?
 

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Slight side topic, but I happened to be reading about conference TV deals this past weekend, and I'd forgotten about these numbers

SEC: 10 year deal beginning in 2024 that pays 300M annually or 18.75M/yr per school
Big10: 7 year deal beginning in 2022 that pays 1,142M anually or 63.4M/yr per school

Am I completely missing something or did the SEC negotiate the latest round of TV contracts very poorly?
That's not right. Pretty much all the writers were saying that the SEC would eclipse the B1G in overall payout. I see the same numbers you see, but I can't imagine all these people are that bad at math. I'm guessing there's another big pot of cash somewhere, and this is in addition to that one.
 

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That's not right. Pretty much all the writers were saying that the SEC would eclipse the B1G in overall payout. I see the same numbers you see, but I can't imagine all these people are that bad at math. I'm guessing there's another big pot of cash somewhere, and this is in addition to that one.
Thats just for the old 2:30 CBS Game of the Week which ABC now has....
 
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I’m sure the big schools will be perfectly happy to keep sharing revenue with us. Nothing to worry about.***
 

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I’m sure the big schools will be perfectly happy to keep sharing revenue with us. Nothing to worry about.***
Think they'd rather share revenue with us or with TOSU, Michigan, Penn State, etc?

Think Bama would rather trade a regular season game with State for a game against TOSU?
 

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Think they'd rather share revenue with us or with TOSU, Michigan, Penn State, etc?

Think Bama would rather trade a regular season game with State for a game against TOSU?
It’s precious you think Bama will make the decision. TV execs will make it. And they would much rather have anyone but us.
 
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It’s precious you think Bama will make the decision. TV execs will make it. And they would much rather have anyone but us.
Yes tv networks have replaced the ncaa as a governing body
 

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Slight side topic, but I happened to be reading about conference TV deals this past weekend, and I'd forgotten about these numbers

SEC: 10 year deal beginning in 2024 that pays 300M annually or 18.75M/yr per school
Big10: 7 year deal beginning in 2022 that pays 1,142M anually or 63.4M/yr per school

Am I completely missing something or did the SEC negotiate the latest round of TV contracts very poorly?
The $3 Billion ($300 Million annually) is just for the 2:30 pm game on ABC. That’s in addition to the existing contract Disney and the SEC have had since 2012 for the SEC Network, 11 am games, primetime games, non-revenue sports, etc.
 

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I’m sure there were Wazzu & Oregon St fans who felt like you too
There’s nowhere for the blue bloods to go.

And 30 years from now, if it happens, the second tier league will be pretty damn good too.
 

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Einstein, if TV execs were making these decisions, we’d been out long ago.
Cal is in the ATLANTIC COAST conference and you think schools still have a say. I can lead you to water, but you’ll have to drink yourself buddy.
 

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On our schedule? I'll take Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, and Maryland please sir.
We do have Minnesota coming in the schedule in a few years. That should be a good series. Assuming we ever get our heads out of our a$$es and decide to get serious about football again.
 
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Its the afc and the nfc. Playoffs. Im waiting for the wild card games
It will never be that much of an alliance. More like a very loose working together when it’s in both conferences best interests on a pretty limited basis.
 

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It will never be that much of an alliance. More like a very loose working together when it’s in both conferences best interests on a pretty limited basis.
who Knows really, money and television ratings is what drives things.
 

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Cal is in the ATLANTIC COAST conference and you think schools still have a say. I can lead you to water, but you’ll have to drink yourself buddy.
Because the PAC 12 had a complete idiot as a leader and the PAC 12 was been nothing but scraps since Pete Carroll left for the Sea Chickens, exact for a one off here and there.

TV pays the bills, this is nothing new. You think the networks run the NFL? They work in partnership with the NFL. Just like the SEC/BIG 12 work in partnership with FOX, ESPN, etc. TV is never going to run CFB, why would they? They will work with their partners to do it. Do you think TV wants CFB down to 20-30 teams? They want to fill content and have as many fans as possible thus drawing the most viewers. They'd rather have 60 teams than 30. With 60, Kansas State, Rutgers, Ark, Ok State, Arizonia, etc., type fans will not only watch their teams, but the big games as well. Cut teams 30-60 out and many of those fans will likely gradually lose interest in CFB.

Sankey and the power brokers in the SEC aren't going to give up power to the networks. Same with the Big 10. They are stronger together. They will work with the networks, but never going to let give up power.
 
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Because the PAC 12 had a complete idiot as a leader and the PAC 12 was been nothing but scraps since Pete Carroll left for the Sea Chickens, exact for a one off here and there.

TV pays the bills, this is nothing new. You think the networks run the NFL? They work in partnership with the NFL. Just like the SEC/BIG 12 work in partnership with FOX, ESPN, etc. TV is never going to run CFB, why would they? They will work with their partners to do it. Do you think TV wants CFB down to 20-30 teams? They want to fill content and have as many fans as possible thus drawing the most viewers. They'd rather have 60 teams than 30. With 60, Kansas State, Rutgers, Ark, Ok State, Arizonia, etc., type fans will not only watch their teams, but the big games as well. Cut teams 30-60 out and many of those fans will likely gradually lose interest in CFB.

Sankey and the power brokers in the SEC aren't going to give up power to the networks. Same with the Big 10. They are stronger together. They will work with the networks, but never going to let give up power.
Agree on all of this. Everyone in the PAC-10 after USC & UCLA left could have had as much or more than any of them are getting in their new conferences if they’d realized their true value & signed the contract they were offered.
 

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Agree on all of this. Everyone in the PAC-10 after USC & UCLA left could have had as much or more than any of them are getting in their new conferences if they’d realized their true value & signed the contract they were offered.
No doubt, staying together was the move. Idiocy prevailed. Anyone on this board could have worked a deal out to keep it together.
 
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Who writes the checks to the NFL, NBA, MLB, PGA, etc? Are any of those leagues run by the networks? They work with the networks, but are not run by the networks.
Nfl has professional owners, apples to oranges. NCAA has lost most of its governing power, TV $$$ talks.
 

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Nfl has professional owners, apples to oranges. NCAA has lost most of its governing power, TV $$$ talks.
It does. But at the same time, the networks need the SEC & Big 10 just as much as the SEC & Big 10 need the networks. It’s a symbiotic relationship, not a master-servant one.
 
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