Are we sure they don’t want to take a look at Lemonis?
Truth.I don’t really want to lose him but I hope he gets a good head coaching job. He played a big role in the national championship.
We all know you're joking but apropos of that topic Coastal Carolina's coach announced he's retiring after the 2024 season and that's just up the road from Myrtle Beach where Lemonis grew up...
He played a big role in the national championship.
Maybe he will make them a big winner next season and we can hire him back after Lem is fired.on the list for the head job at Central FL and for other openings.
Guilty by association, I can understand that but it’s hard to blame the offense for the last 2 years. Now I’m not saying they were the best offense in the world but they were good enough to be a respectful team with a decent pitching staff.and an even bigger role in the last 2 seasons, his team and players.............
Fully agree with this, and honestly, we didn’t even need a decent pitching staff. Just not one that’s historically badGuilty by association, I can understand that but it’s hard to blame the offense for the last 2 years. Now I’m not saying they were the best offense in the world but they were good enough to be a respectful team with a decent pitching staff.
Shoot, this would be best case scenario. Let's say Lemon pulls a Cohen 2016, puts together a winner full of mercenaries and gets a national seed or hosts. If he bolted for Coastal after that, other than the shame some of our dumber fans would feel, wouldn't this be awesome?We all know you're joking but apropos of that topic Coastal Carolina's coach announced he's retiring after the 2024 season and that's just up the road from Myrtle Beach where Lemonis grew up...
We were tied for 10th in the SEC in runs scored (and played 1 more game than the team we tied with) and were 12th in RBIs. Geautreau's offense was less terrible than anything else about this team. But it was still pretty bad.Guilty by association, I can understand that but it’s hard to blame the offense for the last 2 years. Now I’m not saying they were the best offense in the world but they were good enough to be a respectful team with a decent pitching staff.
Lemonis has said he's going to South Carolina when he retires so it's well within the realm of possibility.Shoot, this would be best case scenario. Let's say Lemon pulls a Cohen 2016, puts together a winner full of mercenaries and gets a national seed or hosts. If he bolted for Coastal after that, other than the shame some of our dumber fans would feel, wouldn't this be awesome?
I mean it's not like things like this haven't happened before. Dana Holgersen left West Virginia for Houston, etc.
They were not all world by any means but generally in the top half of the conference in most hitting categoriesMaybe I just don't remember all of the hits but when I think of our hitting I remember all of those runners left on base, leading the league hitting into double plays, all of the missed opportunities missed from ground outs to 1B or 2B by Clark and Hancock, those 2 and 3 hit games, etc.
To be clear 13th in strikeouts means we struck out the second fewest times in the league(i dont know why they rank them that way). We were 5th best in conference play. We continue to have good production in various metrics except runs scored which is obviously the most important. Last year Ks were the culprit. This year it was BA, OBP and GDP despite being 3rd in slug in conf. But Id love to see our BA with RISP the last two years. It has to be abysmal.You see glass half full, I see glass half empty.
Of the 14 teams:
11th in number of runs scored
13th in number of hits
10th in RBIs
13th in Strike Outs
2nd in number of DPs hit into (as in 2nd most)
Can you scream that louder for the back of the classroom. I got so tired of hearing how our hitting was good. I don’t care if we batted .400 with a GPS of 2.75 and an exit velo average of 113 knots. The point of the game is to score runs. If we are in the bottom 1/4 in total runs we are not good offensively.I
We were tied for 10th in the SEC in runs scored (and played 1 more game than the team we tied with) and were 12th in RBIs. Geautreau's offense was less terrible than anything else about this team. But it was still pretty bad.
They have already named their asst as the future HC.Shoot, this would be best case scenario. Let's say Lemon pulls a Cohen 2016, puts together a winner full of mercenaries and gets a national seed or hosts. If he bolted for Coastal after that, other than the shame some of our dumber fans would feel, wouldn't this be awesome?
I mean it's not like things like this haven't happened before. Dana Holgersen left West Virginia for Houston, etc.
You see glass half full, I see glass half empty.
Of the 14 teams:
11th in number of runs scored
13th in number of hits
10th in RBIs
13th in Strike Outs
2nd in number of DPs hit into (as in 2nd most)
Good lord at the lengths some of you people will go to to pin all of our problems (pitching, offense, defense) all on one man who was just a pitching coach.It's pretty hard to score more than the other team when you give double digits every game. Probly screws with your hitters when they go to the plate down 13 to 1 in the fourth inning
What’s hilarious, is 2 of the 3 teams we didn’t play are below us in runs. We may have some truth here.Hold on. To be fair, you REALLY have to consider that the teams we were ranked against all got three games against the worst staff in the SEC, far. That’s 10% of your games. Im not kidding.
I’m not sure how our runs allowed per SEC game stack up (not ERA). But I guarantee it’s last. Probably by a wide margin. Is it higher than 11? I just don’t know, but that’s 33 runs our offense doesn’t get.
The offense was average enough to win games.
Hold on. To be fair, you REALLY have to consider that the teams we were ranked against all got three games against the worst staff in the SEC, far. That’s 10% of your games. Im not kidding.
I’m not sure how our runs allowed per SEC game stack up (not ERA). But I guarantee it’s last. Probably by a wide margin. Is it higher than 11? I just don’t know, but that’s 33 runs our offense doesn’t get.
The offense was average enough to win games
I'm amazed at the lengths people will go to say we didn't suck as bad as it looked that we sucked.Hold on. To be fair, you REALLY have to consider that the teams we were ranked against all got three games against the worst staff in the SEC, far. That’s 10% of your games. Im not kidding.
I’m not sure how our runs allowed per SEC game stack up (not ERA). But I guarantee it’s last. Probably by a wide margin. Is it higher than 11? I just don’t know, but that’s 33 runs our offense doesn’t get.
The offense was average enough to win games.
7th in batting averageYou see glass half full, I see glass half empty.
Of the 14 teams:
11th in number of runs scored
13th in number of hits
10th in RBIs
13th in Strike Outs
2nd in number of DPs hit into (as in 2nd most)
On the flip side, it probably hurts their pitcher sitting in his dugout for 30 minutes multiple times a game while we walk the side. They also probably are throwing more strikes as teams do with big leads. Well. Except for us.It's pretty hard to score more than the other team when you give double digits every game. Probly screws with your hitters when they go to the plate down 13 to 1 in the fourth inning
In SEC play we were 9th in BA and 10th in OBP but 3rd in slug. Again GDIP is a problem. But BA with RISP has to be the issue. It’s amazing to be 10th in runs yet higher than 10th in so many other categories.7th in batting average
6th in slugging percentage
6th in on base percentage
6th in doubles
7th in home runs
A lot of the items you mentioned can be partially blamed on getting run ruled so much and missing several innings. We were 12th in both total plate appearances and at bats. That alone will explain being lower in hits, RBIs and runs. A&M had 317 more plate appearances than state.
When things are looked at on a percentage basis, this was a middle of the pack offense. Again, I’m not claiming this was a top tier offense, but it was good enough to win games.
Hell if we just walk 2.5 less people a game we probably accomplish this.Fully agree with this, and honestly, we didn’t even need a decent pitching staff. Just not one that’s historically bad
If we had given up two less runs per game which would still have been bottom third in the conference, we’d have won or tied 7 additional games, putting us around 34-19
I imagine Holgo left because the Lake Chuck Casinos are nearby and the Houston skrip clubs and other night life are better there than in Morgantown, Meth Virginia.I mean it's not like things like this haven't happened before. Dana Holgersen left West Virginia for Houston, etc.
I’m only counting SEC games. Hanging 27 on Valley is great, but not using those games for statistical comparisons.7th in batting average
6th in slugging percentage
6th in on base percentage
6th in doubles
7th in home runs
A lot of the items you mentioned can be partially blamed on getting run ruled so much and missing several innings. We were 12th in both total plate appearances and at bats. That alone will explain being lower in hits, RBIs and runs. A&M had 317 more plate appearances than state.
When things are looked at on a percentage basis, this was a middle of the pack offense. Again, I’m not claiming this was a top tier offense, but it was good enough to win games.
Haha we were horrible and Lemonis should be fired today BUT the only bright spot on a horrible team was hitting. And that bright spot was average for a SEC team. If everything else was average, we would be a 2 seed or maybe even hosting as a non-National seed. Hitting was the only thing not the problem.I'm amazed at the lengths people will go to say we didn't suck as bad as it looked that we sucked.
How about this then, we got run ruled 7 times so that's 14 innings we didn't get the chance to score, poor us! But, that's also 14 innings that the other team didn't get an opportunity to "whip dat arse" even more than the 10 runs they did beat us by? Face it, we sucked the past 2 years any way you look at it
RunruLemonis is the man in charge. It's his responsibility to make the whole show run rightGood lord at the lengths some of you people will go to to pin all of our problems (pitching, offense, defense) all on one man who was just a pitching coach.
You'd never know it from the athletic director down to many comments on this board.RunruLemonis is the man in charge. It's his responsibility to make the whole show run right