Bo Bounds Says We Should've Fired Lemonis Yesterday

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And given Parker an on the job interview.

He's criticizing Selmon now for being slow & sitting on his hands.

Says MSU is not serious

I agree with him. Selmon has let us down on this. Keeping Lem another game makes no sense for us

Show some leadership Selmon
"Says MSU is not serious'
That has become painfully obvious with hiring the likes of Arnett and Selmon .
 

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Im not against retaining parker.. but that would be the next HC's decision.. and in no way should Parker be the next HC.
I agree that it should be the next HC's decision. BUT if the new HC doesn't want to retain Parker and doesn't have someone else with a proven track record to bring onboard, they should be disqualified as a candidate for being a dubmass. People forget the difference he made with the roster he was given.
 

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I agree that it should be the next HC's decision. BUT if the new HC doesn't want to retain Parker and doesn't have someone else with a proven track record to bring onboard, they should be disqualified as a candidate for being a dubmass. People forget the difference he made with the roster he was given.
if the new HC is a worthy candidate.. he isnt going to be told who he can and cannot have on staff.

Again im not arguing against Parker. Im OK with parker being around... but thats uliminately the next guys decision not the athletic office.
 
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Giving Parker an interview is laughable.

Fire Lemonis. Make Polk interim. See if that shoots a jolt into the kids and program to play for the legend. Clean complete house this off-season and let the new hire bring in a brand new staff from the baseball ops guy to the volunteer coach.
I was with you until the 3rd sentence. That's a huge hell no. If you fire Lemonis now, make Go-Tro or Parker interim and start a national search (a real one this time not one that's just going to recommend the assistant coach at the school you came from that you wanted to hire in the first place).
 

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It is obvious that Lemonis has to go. It is obvious that Selmon has no 17ing clue what he's doing and will also have to go. Those two things are flat out obvious.

Someone convince me how the search for and eventual landing of a Lemonis replacement will be handled without including a lame duck AD?

If your answer includes "Keenum" you are disqualified. Keenum is responsible for this AD. Try again.
I never understood how the choices were Benko and Selmon, if those were the final two, and we went with on the job training.
 

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I was with you until the 3rd sentence. That's a huge hell no. If you fire Lemonis now, make Go-Tro or Parker interim and start a national search (a real one this time not one that's just going to recommend the assistant coach at the school you came from that you wanted to hire in the first place).
and i hear ya..

issue is if we have some even remote success down the stretch with Geaux or Parker at the helm.. we'll be in a quandry as to keep them, hire them, etc

Polk removes all that doubt. and he'll be fine for 25 games... and removes lemonis and his entire staff from the picture.. which is whats needed
 
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and i hear ya..

issue is if we have some even remote success down the stretch with Geaux or Parker at the helm.. we'll be in a quandry as to keep them, hire them, etc

Polk removes all that doubt. and he'll be fine for 25 games... and removes lemonis and his entire staff from the picture.. which is whats needed
Honestly, I'd rather just wait till late May to fire him. It's not really going to accomplish anything to do it now. But I hear you too. Worst thing we could do is fire him now, and then make a typical lazy Mississippi State hire because the interim managed to win 10 of the last 21 SEC games so he deserves a shot at the job long term.
 

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We should have fired him 2 years ago. And Parker doesn't need to even be interviewed for the job. Pitching not looking so great this year without 2 stud SEC starters. And some of his pitching decisions this year are baffling at best.
Biggest disappointment this year is how far pitching regressed. I thought he was working miracles last year
 

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Why any of yall put any stock into what Bo Bounds thinks is beyond me. I've never heard a sports talk show host that knows (or talks) less about sports than that guy.

I haven't given him a listen in some time, but Matt Moscons in Baton Rouge would give him a run for his money.
 
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Someone fire both of these clowns. Problem is keenum needs to be fired himself.
 
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Honestly, I'd rather just wait till late May to fire him. It's not really going to accomplish anything to do it now. But I hear you too. Worst thing we could do is fire him now, and then make a typical lazy Mississippi State hire because the interim managed to win 10 of the last 21 SEC games so he deserves a shot at the job long term.
or lemonis go 12-9 down the stretch. Win a few in the tournamnet. Get into a regional and we get talked into keeping him another year.

Thats why i do it now....but i get why you dont do it too. However lay another egg this weekend, then who knows
 

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We aren't going to do anything with Lemonis until post-season is eliminated. Selmon is not going to make a move and spend buyout money on baseball unless we miss the post-season and we aren't to that point yet. Writing is pretty much on the wall but there is the low probability that we get on a run and at least make a regional somewhere as a 2 or 3 seed. Selmon likely doesn't want to spend any extra money on baseball anyway but certainly not when the season is still salvageable.
 

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I know why Lemonis sits on the bucket - it’s where the cash that Selmon burned through resides.

it makes perfect sense why his rear is glued to that dang bucket now
 

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Honestly, I'd rather just wait till late May to fire him. It's not really going to accomplish anything to do it now. But I hear you too. Worst thing we could do is fire him now, and then make a typical lazy Mississippi State hire because the interim managed to win 10 of the last 21 SEC games so he deserves a shot at the job long term.
This is the right answer. There is really no practical purpose, no advantage we gain to firing Lemonis now. All it does is give fans a pound of flesh and make them feel better.
 
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Polk 3.0!? Seriously!?
Really. You know the fanbase is going nuts if people want someone who breathes into a microphone in the booth like he just finished a 5k.

it’s time to let Polk enjoy retirement. And his part time color gig.
 

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Giving Parker an interview is laughable.

Fire Lemonis. Make Polk interim. See if that shoots a jolt into the kids and program to play for the legend. Clean complete house this off-season and let the new hire bring in a brand new staff from the baseball ops guy to the volunteer coach.
The last thing we need is Polk re-involved.
 

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As I think about it, this guy on one show says we don't have the money then on the next show said he should have been fired yesterday. He is a loser.
 
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if the new HC is a worthy candidate.. he isnt going to be told who he can and cannot have on staff.

Again im not arguing against Parker. Im OK with parker being around... but thats uliminately the next guys decision not the athletic office.
And all I'm saying is that the new guy lets Parker go, he better have someone as good as or better ready to step in his spot.
 

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Honestly, I'd rather just wait till late May to fire him. It's not really going to accomplish anything to do it now. But I hear you too. Worst thing we could do is fire him now, and then make a typical lazy Mississippi State hire because the interim managed to win 10 of the last 21 SEC games so he deserves a shot at the job long term.
I think probably should be early May? Portal opens up June 2nd . Ideally your new coach would get to meet the potential returning players in person and get to evaluate them before they start getting recruited or at least before they enter the portal. You wait until late may to fire, and you will be missing at least the early part of the portal window.

Of course, if you want to hire somebody that's in the post season, the portal being open before the NCAA tournament is a challenge. I guess if you are looking to hire an assistant it's not that big of a deal for them to skip coaching the post season to focus on recruiting, but it's tough for a head coach to abandon a post season team.
 
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Biggest disappointment this year is how far pitching regressed. I thought he was working miracles last year
I don't see how pitching has regressed. Please explain.
2023 ERA = 7.01
2024 ERA = 4.17
2025 ERA = 3.97
The problem is losing 8 games including (5 SEC games) by 2 runs or less.
Our inability to manufacture a run when we have the chance is what has killed us to date.
 
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It is obvious that Lemonis has to go. It is obvious that Selmon has no 17ing clue what he's doing and will also have to go. Those two things are flat out obvious.

Someone convince me how the search for and eventual landing of a Lemonis replacement will be handled without including a lame duck AD?

If your answer includes "Keenum" you are disqualified. Keenum is responsible for this AD. Try again.
Keenum is also responsible for the cluster our football program is in
 

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I haven't given him a listen in some time, but Matt Moscons in Baton Rouge would give him a run for his money.
Yes. For the sports in Louisiana most of the sports shows suck. Yes Bo gets off sports too much and fellates his sponsors too the point of nausea sometimes but for the most parts it's a pretty good sports show compared to a lot of others. Others allow way too many call ins which ruin the show. Others are just a homer for the biggest school in the area. Others just talk national big boys. I think he does a pretty well balanced show. He has good interviews. Moscana is unbearable to listen to unless you are an lsu fan and many lsu fans don't like him either.
 

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I don't see how pitching has regressed. Please explain.
2023 ERA = 7.01
2024 ERA = 4.17
2025 ERA = 3.97
The problem is losing 8 games including (5 SEC games) by 2 runs or less.
Our inability to manufacture a run when we have the chance is what has killed us to date.
Referring to our conference ERA going from 4.68 to 6.11, but let me know if you need any more explanations
 
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But would Polk be up to it? Would he use the current assistants or would he need some interim assistants?
No Polk! Was excellent coach back in the day but time has passed him bye. Lots of questions regarding Parker but he came here with good credentials can’t believe he’s turned to s__T after 1 year. It’s possible that Lemonis is over riding Parker’s decision with regards to recruiting and game management. I wouldn’t be so quick to blame Parker just yet.
 

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That is a good sign that your priors are wrong if you ask me.
In this case, the priors are that Lemonis’s time is up. There’s really no debate about that unless your contention is that “baseball doesn’t matter.” If that’s the case, you’re entitled to your opinion but I don’t have to care about it.
 

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In this case, the priors are that Lemonis’s time is up. There’s really no debate about that unless your contention is that “baseball doesn’t matter.” If that’s the case, you’re entitled to your opinion but I don’t have to care about it.
I think there is an argument to be made that hiring players is now more important than hiring coaches, and if we are going to spend $1M buying out the last year of Lemonis's contract (I think his expires in 2026? Not sure) and then spending another $1M to hire a new coach, we're better off just putting that money towards NIL because a good ace can add more wins than upgrading the coaching.

The counterargument is that good players don't want to play for bad coaches and you're not going to get value for any of your money on the player market, not just the $1M "extra" you have from not buying him out.
 

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I think there is an argument to be made that hiring players is now more important than hiring coaches, and if we are going to spend $1M buying out the last year of Lemonis's contract (I think his expires in 2026? Not sure) and then spending another $1M to hire a new coach, we're better off just putting that money towards NIL because a good ace can add more wins than upgrading the coaching.

The counterargument is that good players don't want to play for bad coaches and you're not going to get value for any of your money on the player market, not just the $1M "extra" you have from not buying him out.
I don't really follow baseball much but if we spend a million buying him out, why can't we just hire a young up and comer coach for $500,000 and just start saving that money? Doesn't sound like a young coach would be any worse than what we have.
 

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Yes. For the sports in Louisiana most of the sports shows suck. Yes Bo gets off sports too much and fellates his sponsors too the point of nausea sometimes but for the most parts it's a pretty good sports show compared to a lot of others. Others allow way too many call ins which ruin the show. Others are just a homer for the biggest school in the area. Others just talk national big boys. I think he does a pretty well balanced show. He has good interviews. Moscana is unbearable to listen to unless you are an lsu fan and many lsu fans don't like him either.
I'll never forgive him for ****-talking Jack when he retired.
 
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I don't really follow baseball much but if we spend a million buying him out, why can't we just hire a young up and comer coach for $500,000 and just start saving that money? Doesn't sound like a young coach would be any worse than what we have.
I think you'll see downward pressure on salary over time, but I'm not sure it will be that drastic. For the most part, if we try to go hire the types of coaches that you've seen people name on this board, and we offer them ~40% of what we're paying the current coach, I think they will all sit tight hoping for the next job. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the average of the top ten coaches is less in 10 years adjusted for inflation than it is now.
 
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And given Parker an on the job interview.

He's criticizing Selmon now for being slow & sitting on his hands.

Says MSU is not serious

I agree with him. Selmon has let us down on this. Keeping Lem another game makes no sense for us

Show some leadership Selmon
I don’t exactly disagree, but I’m not about to let Bo Bounds tell me anything. I wouldn’t believe that little shìt if he told me what time it is.