Bo Bounds Says We Should've Fired Lemonis Yesterday
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I think we need to get past the idea that good baseball teams (or football teams) must be bought and not built.
I know we see LSU and Tennessee building that way, but we’re just not going to spend at that level.
Better scouting. Better development.
And maybe I’m wrong. Maybe that’s stupid. But it’s how I see it.
I honestly don’t think this is that far fetched. Lemonis is making $1.3M which makes him #11 according to Forbes, but $500k would still be a top 25 salary. If we’re not going to spend like UT and Vandy, I wouldn’t mind hiring a semi-young guy with some fire that has to earn his next payday
Fair enough, as long as I am allowed the same privilege with your opinion. Baseball matters, just not college baseball
Wasn’t he just saying we could NOT fire him due to money? Now he’s saying they should’ve done it already? Sounds like he’s slinging mud on a wall like a politician and seeing what sticks.
I don’t think there’s any way we get into the regionals at 13-17 in the SEC, with that awful nonconference schedule that we have.
Agree. Brutal non conference. Steve Roberson is very positive on their ncaa outlook is my reason for the comment… but yes I think it’ll take more than that too
That's an explanation, but not a logical one. It's way too early for that line of reasoning to be a valid comparison. The conference ERA going up compared to last year's when the only conference games you've played to date are against 3 top 10 teams is understandable. 8 SEC teams currently have losing conference records with 5 having the same craptastic record as ours. Our conference ERA should be expected to come back in line with last year's level when we get some of those under our belt. Don't be so hasty to throw the pitchers and pitching staff under the bus.
Also like someone said, if an succeeded then people will be talking for years how that coach should be hired (Henderson- look what Lemonis did with that team and where we are now). If Polk comes in, which I doubt, then no one is saying make this #3 time around.
exactly that.
I mean its not a perfect situation, but anytime you fire a coach mid year it isnt going to be. If it comes to that, your basically trying to survive a bad situation... and in all likelyhood a new coach is going to want to clean house, so why give anyone a staff a reason to believe they are good enough for the job.
Polk has enough creditability with the kids and respect of others on staff.. to hold the ship together the last 20-30 games.. which is all your really looking for in a situation like that... and agreed no one would be under any presumption that he will hang around and be the next coach or be on staff in the coming years.
All that said, doesnt look like any firing is going to happen... we'll see what this week brings.
It’s definitely logical. It’s illogical to compare ERAs across years when we’ve played mostly ****** nonconference teams to this point. That’s actually pretty stupid
I think it’s more of a problem letting Lemon finish and he wins 10 of the next 21. You hire your interim with zero guarantees following the season and have a national coaching search.
I’m seeing last year happening again and that means another year for Lemon. Win just enough to slide into postseason and they say he’s doing a good job.
If you think our first three opponents in 2025 are significantly better than our SEC slate last year, we just fundamentally disagree
I don't think we really know yet, but I think it's fair to say it's early to throw in the towel on a pitching staff that didn't play a good OOC schedule and is now three series in. I'm generally all aboard the doom and gloom bandwagon, and don't expect us to be better than last year on the mound, but I don't know that it's going to look as bad as it does now by the end of the season.
This is what I've been trying to communicate. You shouldn't be comparing the results of the entire 24 SEC season to the results of the first 3 SEC opponents which all happen to be in the top 10.
problem is there will be a LOT of SEC teams in and around the top 10.. AND we are dodging the best ones this year like UT, Arkansas.
Agree is unrealstic for us to go 1-8 all year and finish the year 3-27 in SEC.... the question is even if we play better and again finish the season 12-9... does 13-17 deserve another pass?
Heck no! I wanted Lemmon gone 2 years ago - and that hasn't changed. I just don't understand the people that are trashing our pitching coaches... Don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
im good with parker.... my thing is.... any head coach we hire should have the opporutnity to bring in his guys from the pitching coach to the ops guy... our admin shouldnt force Parker or anyone on the new hire.
I think the answer on that is easy but I don't know that this is going to be the relevant question. If we get into the post season, I think the question is can we justify keeping Lemonis to avoid asking our boosters to cut another check and to keep more money available for NIL. I think the answer to that question is going to be different depending on who you ask, but I would assume ultimately is going to depend on whether the relevant boosters are eager to cut a check in order to move on.
I am guessing that will be the relevant question even if he doesn't make the post season, but maybe not.
All I said was that any HC worth having will either have a proven pitching coach to bring with him or keep Parker. Parker is a good pitching coach. Getting rid of him to just to say you're starting with a clean slate is not a smart move.
I can agree with this. But im going to let the new guy decide that, not the athletic office.... and im not going to pressure the new guy to keep Parker.
Lemonis has 1 year remaining on his contract. Parker was on a 2-year deal and this is year 2. It will literally NEVER get any cheaper to fire a baseball coach than now. And the million or so it will cost isn't even a drop in the NIL bucket. We are quickly falling to the bottom of the SEC in everything because we have cheap, short-sighted administration and a lot of cheap, short-sighted fans.
Yes I have. Definitely room for improvement, but much better than where we were 2 years ago. The timing of some bullpen calls (who made them is not known) has cost us for sure, but poor situational hitting has cost us much more than pitching.
I'm not exactly celebrating a drop from 9.54 conference ERA 2 years ago to 6.88 today. It's up over 2 runs over last year.
Only playing 3 of the best teams in the nation in conference so far... I'll drop when we play some of the others in the conference that have our level of talent on the roster.
Again the SEC is going to have a number of teams as talented as the ones we just faced.....Tenn, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas-- all have faced stiff competition out of the gate as well.
and we played one of the worst non conference schedules in the league to boost those numbers as well. Its sorta all evened out. We are what we are at this point... i dont think its fair to point towards the first 9 games and say we had it bad.
After they fire him, Steve will devote a whole show (sandwiching a review of Jefferson Starship's top 10 albums) to how awful a coach Lemonis is.