I suspect they're talking about damaged goods coaches like Beard and Kiffin. Heck, we don't even hire experienced HCs, much less questionable character guys.
Bo say, State may not have the money .....
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These yokels won’t ever be happy with a black AD hiring a coach for their lily white sport
Let's look at our coaching hires recently:
Croom- No experience
Mullen- No experience
Morehead- No real HC experience
Leach- proven but past his prime
Arnett- no experience
Lebby- no exoerience
Man, we don't even try very hard. Mullen and Lebby look like good OC hires on paper and Mullen worked out
Croom- No experience
Mullen- No experience
Morehead- No real HC experience
Leach- proven but past his prime
Arnett- no experience
Lebby- no exoerience
Man, we don't even try very hard. Mullen and Lebby look like good OC hires on paper and Mullen worked out
If true then that's more evidence of the super awesome decisions made regarding MSU athletics
Selmon has been too busy making a "master plan" that will likely not fully occur but it was great wasting the money for them to give us ideas! Other schools are putting a freeze on building new facilities to support NIL but he's goes in on both NIL and then asking donors for money to build practice facility etc ... Bush league hire gets Bush league money management and don't get me started on how it feels to be a bulldog club member compared to the 20 years prior to now. Give us more money, less benefits. Haven't heard from my bulldog rep in months. This is my last year giving to football without significant improvements, who wants 6 loge seats! Sorry rant but frustration is palpable, what I loved about college sports was watching players be "Dawgs" that is gone it's unlimited free agency with no contract. I'm holding out hope that someone will get their collective heads out of their collective arses but I'm sure it's pipedream. In conclusion get off my lawn! Thank you for your time.
Rocky’s back, boys! And his stupid takes are right behind him (which is where I’m sure he pulled them from).
When will everyone listen to me:; WE ARE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE RICH AND CASH POOR!!
that $8 million for football is due over a 10 year period.
The venom , “our Bulldog club donation year was changed from July to June to match our fiscal year”was total BS. We did that to get cash!
Selmon “the great fundraiser” has no idea how to manage money. He knows how to blow it. We must make a change at the very top before it is too late!
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Selmon is the worst I’ve ever seen. I hated Cohen, but even he was better. I can’t decide what is worse our marking being the same as a pretty bad Dr Pepper ad, or the on field performances. What a storm of pure ****. This university should be better then this even with the minimal resources
Again, what's the bad things Selmon has done? Cohen put us so far behind, Selmon is having to clean up his mess. We aren't blowing money on building projects, we've cut the the lesser sports by close to 20% funding wise too. We're doing what everyone else is doing minus having to fix what a fool of an AD screwed up. And yes, we're poor as ever, so we can't get blood from a turnip. The ultimate leadership here is a much greater issue. The poor ole country boy club here is a big problem! But he blames Starkville. He needs to stay away from athletics and let his AD do his job. Fire him if he doesn't do it.
I quit writing that check to the BDC three years ago. I told them why and all I got was silence on the other end of the phone. I got 2-3 calls around football season ticket time that year but after that silence, not a word since until the first of this year. I don't think I've gone a week without a call, which I don't answer, a text and an email. Something has changed but it wasn't me.
The most MSU thing to do would be to invest millions in a non revenue sport to fire that coach. People need to understand baseball is no longer a priority here. You don’t spend millions on a sport that is zero relevance in the grand scheme of things. It’s football and basketball. We have to start treating those with priority and thank god we have an AD who puts those first
Whether you agree or not, this seems to be the direction we are going. We aren’t poor but we aren’t very liquid either. Most of the money has been earmarked.
So what exactly is Lemonis and Staff’s contract situation? Salary, Years left on contract , buyout, etc.
Hell no we don’t take risks. What are you even talking about? The administration at this school would never allow somebody like Chris Beard or Will Wade to be hired here.
Oh shut the hell up. Nobody on here wants to hear you suck up to that DEI hire Salmon.
The only caveat is Starkville does , I assume, need those spring time crowds in Starkville. If the crowds drop by 10,000 for each weekend game, that is a big hit on Starkville, right?
You don’t think hiring a 30 something OC with no head coaching experience as the HFC is taking a risk?
Jans had some baggage yet they hired him.
Fans have a tendency to ignore the culture that you speak of, but it is a real thing.
That’s great. Thanks for sharing. Because private business and college athletics have so much in common.****
No, because he was buddies with Salmon. That’s not a risk. That’s hiring your buddy.
This is an absurd take. You all realize Jans was damaged goods right? Leach had a ton of baggage and even some lawsuits.
Selmon needs to show some balls and fire Lemonis but lumping in the whole administration is asinine. The best athletic years this school has ever seen were under Keenum too. Number 1 in Football, Baseball national title, 2 Women's Final 4s. Then people on a message board want to act like nothing good has ever happened here. Yea it sucks currently, I get it. However, we can not fire Lebby after 1 year. We already had trouble getting anyone interested in this job in the first place. Also remember, nobody in this administration caused Leach to die, which is what landed us here in Football. These are the best Men's basketball years we've had in 20 years.... Now, Lemonis needs to be fired Monday morning, on that we can agree
You do realize not one average State fan knows about the mess ups of Chris Jans right? Mark Keenum hired John freakin Cohen, the safest and dumbest hire, to be AD. What a freakin joke man. You have no idea what you’re talking about. I can’t tell you how many friends and family members I have who work for the university who tell me what a joke the administration as a whole is. Just read the boards on here. Student recruitment and academics are plummeting while our SEC rivals continue to thrive. One of the only things I think Selmon maybe right on that most State fans don’t agree with is that baseball should take more of a backseat than it has in the past.
So the argument about Jans not being a risk is that you and others choose to believe he wasn't fired for grabbing *** in a college bar? Or since you don't remember it, it didn't happen? Also, glad you have some family that work at MSU and can't do 1+1=2. Academics will never want to admit it but recruitment is almost directly tied to Football success. It is why we boomed in the Mullen years and why Ole Miss is booming now. You can try to explain 100 different reasons, but it really is that simple.
As for the Cohen hire, if your family working at MSU really knew anything at all they'd know Cohen was hired to try to appease Mullen. So for the theme of this ridiculous thread that was a huge risk taken to try to appease and at the request of our most successful football coach in history. Obviously didn't work out long term but at the time Cohen was the only one Mullen said he wanted to deal with.
I hear it, too. I’ve had friends on campus say it is pretty demoralizing to know how we poorly run we are. People who use to back Keenum now say he is a huge problem and has to go.
The only true thing you said is that academics is tied to success of athletics which the president needs to stay out of.