BREAKING - LP extension

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BOOM!! $4+M/yr gets him in the top half of the league, and rightfully so. Well done LP!! Hopefully he gives us reason to make him the top paid coach in the league!!

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Good job. The fact that he signed now tells me he really wants to be here. He could have waited until after the NCAAT to see if he could squeeze more dough out of us.
 
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You're kidding right? There were plenty on this board who wanted to fire Lamont and Ray after last year and after men's hoops lost to Clemson this year. A decent sized portion of the USC fan base are morons.

Nobody wanted to fire Lamont after last year, or if they did, they were a stark minority. I was personally unimpressed with his results last year and nothing he did last year convinced me he was the long-term solution, but I never said we should fire him (unless I said it in jest just to egg on @DaboSits2PeePee :ROFLMAO: ).

Don't go trying to create straw men.
 
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I thought I saw sarcasm on your face when you typed this.
There were plenty who wanted to wait until somebody stole him away from us.

lol, no, no, no, no. There were many of us who thought a mid-season extension would have been jumping the gun. That is not at all the same as saying "wait around until someone else hires him." I can't think of a single poster who said we should not extend him. The only point I can recall coming up is that we should avoid a Muschamp-type situation, but that hinged on the absurd buyout.

Not on person that I recall was opposed to an extension.
 

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Boy, I hate revisionist history. People think they can just create an "I told you so" out of thin air and then rail against the fictitious statements they fabricated.

Going back and doing a quick search of some older posts, there are a few satirical posts about firing Paris. I haven't yet found one with anyone seriously calling for him to be fired. Maybe it's out there, but if, as is alleged, there were PLENTY of people calling for him to be fired, then those posts should be relatively easy to find.
 

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Boy, I hate revisionist history. People think they can just create an "I told you so" out of thin air and then rail against the fictitious statements they fabricated.

Going back and doing a quick search of some older posts, there are a few satirical posts about firing Paris. I haven't yet found one with anyone seriously calling for him to be fired. Maybe it's out there, but if, as is alleged, there were PLENTY of people calling for him to be fired, then those posts should be relatively easy to find.
There were SOME, as I said in my OP, that were arguing that he hasn't done anything yet, and we should give him longer than one decent year to prove himself. "One year doesn't make a trend", type stuff.
 
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There were plenty railing against a raise and extension saying one season did not warrant such action and using Muschamp as an example.

I do not recall "plenty". I argued both sides. In the days of old, you'd wait to see if a guy had reproducible results, but that day is long gone. Now you have to pay or someone else will snatch up him up.

I just don't recall plenty of people arguing against an extension altogether. Some, like me, said not to do it mid-season. Others, also like me, just didn't want a Muschamp fiasco.
 

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There were SOME, as I said in my OP, that were arguing that he hasn't done anything yet, and we should give him longer than one decent year to prove himself. "One year doesn't make a trend", type stuff.

I'm responding to the poster who said there were PLENTY of people arguing that we should have fired him after last season.

Just a straight up lie.
 

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Going back and looking at the "Paid him now" thread, I see one guy Jonesz21 who did not seem to be in favor of a raise, but he hasn't posted since then on 1/24.

That thread was started after our win over UK by a fan who wanted us to back up the Brinks truck on the basis of that game. Others of us said we should exercise some discernment and not make a decision based on one euphoric win. Of course we were branded anti-extensionists for suggesting a little bit of prudence.
 

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In roughly two years Coach Paris has gone from earning 250,000 USD to possibly collecting four million USD. Talk about moving on up to the east side.

Coach Paris has good qualities as a coach and hope he accepts the offer.
 

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In roughly two years Coach Paris has gone from earning 250,000 USD to possibly collecting four million USD. Talk about moving on up to the east side.

Coach Paris has good qualities as a coach and hope he accepts the offer.

I cannot imagine the board would be meeting to approve a contract that he hasn't already agreed to.
 
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I wonder if there was a strategy to having this news released on the day of our first SECT game.

And, I know it's the market and all, but it's kinda crazy that he already makes more than Dawn, who has 2 national titles.
 

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I'm sure that has something to do with it. The more openings that come up, the more he gets mentioned. Don't need any distractions, and there's not really any reason to wait at the point.

I know some fans don't buy the "he wants to be here" bit about coaches, and I typically agree. However, Lamont COULD have waited for more leverage as the hiring cycle really picks up over the next few weeks. If he were to win a couple in the NCAAT, he'd be as hot of a commodity as anyone out there.

The fact that he chose to just get it down and not wait to get more bargaining power gives me a good sense that he wants to be here.
 

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I'm sure that has something to do with it. The more openings that come up, the more he gets mentioned. Don't need any distractions, and there's not really any reason to wait at the point.
The Beard announcement was made a day or two ago.

Oates has already had two extensions at Alabama and both were completed and publicized before end of regular season.

I think South Carolina may be delinquent with Coach Paris raise and extension and should have shown vote of confidence earlier.
 

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Going back and looking at the "Paid him now" thread, I see one guy Jonesz21 who did not seem to be in favor of a raise, but he hasn't posted since then on 1/24.

That thread was started after our win over UK by a fan who wanted us to back up the Brinks truck on the basis of that game. Others of us said we should exercise some discernment and not make a decision based on one euphoric win. Of course we were branded anti-extensionists for suggesting a little bit of prudence.
Go back and look at the comments after the UGA loss and the first half of the Wofford game. The knee jerkers were out in full force.
 

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Not that it's a reason to want Lamont to be here but I just sense that Lamont Paris is someone you can approach and have a good, pleasant conversation with. I remember something said about the late Bond actor Roger Moore, is something that applies to Lamont Paris: "He is not full of himself".
 

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Go back and look at the comments after the UGA loss and the first half of the Wofford game. The knee jerkers were out in full force.

I don't need to. There has never been "plenty" of posters calling for him to be fired.
 

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The Beard announcement was made a day or two ago.

Oates has already had two extensions at Alabama and both were completed and publicized before end of regular season.

I think South Carolina may be delinquent with Coach Paris raise and extension and should have shown vote of confidence earlier.
Looking into Beard a little more, MS law states that contracts have a max term of 4 years. I don’t think he got a raise. And they’re trying to put a positive spin on it bc of the year they had, but they didn’t have a choice.

But I do agree that we could have been quicker. But I don’t think that’s necessarily a big deal.
 

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Looking into Beard a little more, MS law states that contracts have a max term of 4 years. I don’t think he got a raise. And they’re trying to put a positive spin on it bc of the year they had, but they didn’t have a choice.

But I do agree that we could have been quicker. But I don’t think that’s necessarily a big deal.

Yes, not a big deal. We could have been quicker, but was there any reason to be? We were fighting for the #1 spot and then a top 4 spot. There were just more important things going on, in my opinion. There is nothing at all wrong with waiting until immediately after the regular season is over to get it done. And, obviously, I'd be stunned if Ray and Lamont didn't have an understanding prior to this.

And, the most obvious piece of evidence that there was nothing wrong with us "waiting" to get it done: Lamont agreed to the contract.
 
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Plenty is relative. There were more than plenty that bashed Tanner for hiring CLP.
Bashing him for hiring Paris does not equate to calling for Paris to be fired.

You had your own qualms with the Paris hire at one point in time. In your own words, "we screwed the pooch" with the Paris hire:

"He knew for a year that he was going to fire Martin if he didn't make the dance and it appears Tanner didn't have a plan. Mind boggling.
I didn't think BJ was ready but after we lost out on Miller, the Cleveland State coach and the Murray state coach, I was all in on BJ.
We once again screwed the pooch on this one. That said, I will pull hard for Paris."



What's the statute of limitations for holding someone accountable saying he was a bad hire?
 
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Guys I don't think it matters who was approving or disapproving of the Paris hire. I was initially for Sean Miller. Yet after Lamont was hired, reviewing what he did at Chattanooga as Head Coach and that he was an assistant to Bo Ryan at Wisconsin, I became enthusiastic about the hire and stated so.

Similarly, I was vehemently against and critical of the Beamer hire. But I stated that I support Shane and hope he succeeds. However I cannot say that I was enthusiastic about the hire afterwards, certainly not like I was about Lamont. What gave me some hope about Shane (and still gives me hope) is that he is Frank's boy. As I said above, I believe Lamont will take the men's basketball program to an elite level. I hope in the next couple of years I will say the same about Shane and our football program.

Going to lunch.
 
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Bashing him for hiring Paris does not equate to calling for Paris to be fired.

You had your own qualms with the Paris hire at one point in time. In your own words, "we screwed the pooch" with the Paris hire:

"He knew for a year that he was going to fire Martin if he didn't make the dance and it appears Tanner didn't have a plan. Mind boggling.
I didn't think BJ was ready but after we lost out on Miller, the Cleveland State coach and the Murray state coach, I was all in on BJ.
We once again screwed the pooch on this one. That said, I will pull hard for Paris."



What's the statute of limitations for holding someone accountable saying he was a bad hire?
100 years.
 

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Guys I don't think it matters who was approving or disapproving of the Paris hire. I was initially for Sean Miller. Yet after Lamont was hired, reviewing what he did at Chattanooga as Head Coach and that he was an assistant to Bo Ryan at Wisconsin, I became enthusiastic about the hire and stated so.

Similarly, I was vehemently against and critical of the Beamer hire. But I stated that I support Shane and hope he succeeds. However I cannot say that I was enthusiastic about the hire afterwards, certainly not like I was about Lamont. What gave me some hope about Shane (and still gives me hope) is that he is Frank's boy. As I said above, I believe Lamont will take the men's basketball program to an elite level. I hope in the next couple of years I will say the same about Shane and our football program.

Going to lunch.
I think everyone wanted Miller. And it’s natural to have viewed LP as a step down from potentially hiring Sean Miller. LP has us in a much better place right now than Miller has Xavier.
 
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