Sell. Cohen would have at least had a list. Still think we did the right thing considering the circumstances.
Buy or Sell - If we still had cohen as AD - Arnett is our current HC.
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The school did the right thing and Arnett lost a lot of trust the moment he blew up the entire offensive staff. That was the first red flag. There’s plenty of back and forth here and elsewhere about a coach hitting his own people but the recruits were coming to State to continue in what Leach had built. As soon as the offensive staff was let go, Leach’s impact was quickly following. Leach will be a mere afterthought at State in just a few years and Arnett will be about as memorable as Mullen’s first DC. If the administration doesn’t act immediately after the Egg Bowl, the loss in number of fans and supporters will be much more costly than his buyout is.
Who cares about Cohen? He’s no longer here.
Who cares about Cohen? He’s no longer here.
Cohen probably wouldn't have allowed him to get rid of Leach's guys, at least not at that time. In other words, some plans and directives would have been place. He may have promoted Spurrier though, hard to really say. Cohen wasn't scared to do the right thing, no matter if our idiots didn't like it.
Sell. Cohen would’ve had a semi-proper for him, coaching search, but even he wouldn’t put the load of organizing, recruiting, fundraising and competing in the SEC West to a DC. Hell, he hired the unthinkable at Auburn. He knows to win in SEC you’ve got to have a passing attack of some sort. He would’ve stood up to the MS High School coaches committee up there pulling the strings with Arnett and the RTGDF crowd.
Sell. He would have been interim for the bowl game, and then out.
However, no matter who Cohen hired, if he was 4-4 after 8 games this board would be screaming that we should have just kept Arnett.
However, no matter who Cohen hired, if he was 4-4 after 8 games this board would be screaming that we should have just kept Arnett.
I really wish I could argue with this....but I can't.
Sell. With an AD I think we have an actual search. We didn’t have a choice but to do what we did last year. We also do not have a choice but to correct it this year
I really think it would have mattered how the team looked in those losses
I didn’t like not conducting a search no matter the circumstances especially with portal and NIL - but I understood the reasoning behind it - continuity- but after the fact there actually was none - good ole boy network emerged
did I think this season was going to be successful? Nope (see preseason prog)
however, I wanted to give benefit of the doubt to him to see what kind of product he’d put on the field
well he has exceeded my expectations in that I didn’t think it was possible to dig a hole that deep and that fast
No I don't think a competent AD hires Arnett, not to a first job as an SEC head coach. He is in over his head. He didn't recognize that he had an air raid offense ready made to compete and hired a OC who said "I will Taylor my offense to the players we have." Really, he genuis we don't have any TE's on the roster, so we get a TE from GA in the portal who is following his girlfriend and make a TE out of an undersized "athletic" freshman tackle. And don't get me started on the Spivey thing he did to push ok that TE current playing at UNC had similar story and his coach was able to get the NCAA to approve it. Why because Mack Brown isn't a first year head coach and in way over his head. That's all I have to say about that.......for now.
I didn't care much for cohen on his first hires but he usually did a good job on the second hire. I don't think he did a good job in money or game day atmosphere. However, I think he named arnett interim and does a search til the bowl game.
Of course I agree with you, but if you recall most people here were predicting at least 8 wins with Arnett at the helm ("coming off a 9 win season, anything less than 8 wins is bad coaching!").
At 4-4, with a loss to UMiss looming, the negativity would still be there.
I'm saying 4-4 and not 4-5, because at this point any head coach we had would deserve the criticism.
Let me preface this, I'm not a Cohen defender, but I'll always have a soft spot for the guy for turning our baseball program around after the Polk II debacle.
I didn't like his leadership in the AD office. Yes, he usually got the second hire right. But, last year would've been his third football coaching search. Who's to say the 3rd time wouldn't be just like the 1st one? Because he had to prove he's the smartest guy in the room. You could make the case that he hired Bucky at Auburn, so he'd do what he needed to get the right hire at State. But, I just don't have that kind of faith in Cohen as an AD. As a baseball coach, yes, but I had no confidence in him as an AD.
I didn't like his leadership in the AD office. Yes, he usually got the second hire right. But, last year would've been his third football coaching search. Who's to say the 3rd time wouldn't be just like the 1st one? Because he had to prove he's the smartest guy in the room. You could make the case that he hired Bucky at Auburn, so he'd do what he needed to get the right hire at State. But, I just don't have that kind of faith in Cohen as an AD. As a baseball coach, yes, but I had no confidence in him as an AD.
No, Cohen would not have hired Arnett and I doubt any other full time AD would have. And I also disagree that the school did the right thing by hiring Arnett. Who gives a **** if people jump in the portal? Guess what, they are going to jump in the portal after we fire arnett this year. It’s part of it. You’re not going to lose the whole team, and honestly what the hell difference would it have made if we would have lost any player currently on this team? What player is so transformative on this team that it was worth making the Arnett hire?
Go do a real search and hire a real coach. The portal situation will work itself out. I’m sure out next coach is hoping half the roster jumps in the portal.
Go do a real search and hire a real coach. The portal situation will work itself out. I’m sure out next coach is hoping half the roster jumps in the portal.
You can say "if we had an AD at the time." Cohen or not, any AD in the country would hire a different person besides Arnett. The university president shouldn't be hiring football coaches, simple as that.
How anybody who knows anything about the complexities of running a P5 football program could think Arnett could be a successful HC is unfathomable. Keenum should have known better .
I don't recall a lot of push back on this board, the fanbase in general or any of the talking heads when Arnett was hired. My recollection was that the reaction was decidedly positive. If this was a definite horrible decision from the get-go there should have been more resistance. Hindsight though as they say is 20/20.
I stated my disagreement with the process and hire but I’m not going to continue barking about it once a decision is made.
Sell. Cohen would have tried his best to make another splash and he would have gotten a search firm involved.
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