Buy or sell: NCAA messed up playing NC game on inauguration day.

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I say buy. In an ordinary election year probably not an issue but I think yesterday's inauguration pulled a TON of interest away from the game. In retrospect they should have gone with another night.
Irregardless of Inauguration Day, I hate that they play title games on Mondays in the first place. It should be on a Saturday night. I know it's for ratings, but it takes away from the pageantry of the game. I have little interest spending 3-4 hours on a Monday night to watch the game.
 
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The whole playoff was a cluster17.

1) Should have been 16 teams instead of 12;
2) Seeding was stupid, due to the byes;
3) Should have played all the playoff 1st round games in the same day or a couple of days, to create that NCAA 1st weekend dance effect, even if there is some overlap;
4) Yes, not only was January 20 too late, it was on a bad day (both inauguration AND MLK day).
5) Why do they insist on having it on a Monday night at 7:30? Why not Friday night, in this case, January 17?

They just sell out 100,000% to draconian TV rules instead of just using an ounce of common sense or innovation.
Too many teams, first round and some of the second were anticlimactic, mismatches. Best 8 teams and no one with 3 losses.
 

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Saw thread title, didn’t read thread, and all I could think:

“How long until this thread gets locked?”
 

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Too many teams, first round and some of the second were anticlimactic, mismatches. Best 8 teams and no one with 3 losses.
If bowls would be more emphasized I might go with this. But have we ever finished top 8 after conference title weekend? Makes me think we’d never make playoff.

ETA: was 7 in 2014. Not very often. I was u see the impression we were about 10 but still.
 

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I think the biggest problem is it was January 20th. Most teams’ seasons have been over for at least 3 weeks. Some teams have been done for almost 2 months. The 12 team playoff ended up being fun but you’ve gotta wrap it up sooner.
This. I didn’t even know who made it to the NC. Now, I’ll end up causing a monologue on the podcast about State not having real fans….but there are other things in life that require my attention.
to the OP, buy. This year was shortsighted on the planning committee. It’s not like the inauguration was a surprise….
 

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The whole playoff was a cluster17.

1) Should have been 16 teams instead of 12;
2) Seeding was stupid, due to the byes;
3) Should have played all the playoff 1st round games in the same day or a couple of days, to create that NCAA 1st weekend dance effect, even if there is some overlap;
4) Yes, not only was January 20 too late, it was on a bad day (both inauguration AND MLK day).
5) Why do they insist on having it on a Monday night at 7:30? Why not Friday night, in this case, January 17?

They just sell out 100,000% to draconian TV rules instead of just using an ounce of common sense or innovation.
You’re calling for a 16 team playoff!? Hey, we could have a 24-team playoff just so people like you could rant about it not being a 36-team playoff. ThAt DidUnT WeRrrK, we need a 40 team playoff.….
That’s always been the beauty of football, you get one chance. It’d be too easy to just go to conference champs. But, you’re right….its not about football. It’s about the $$$ from TV. 17 the teams, 17 the schools, and 171717 the fans
 

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You’re calling for a 16 team playoff!? Hey, we could have a 24-team playoff just so people like you could rant about it not being a 36-team playoff. ThAt DidUnT WeRrrK, we need a 40 team playoff.….
That’s always been the beauty of football, you get one chance. It’d be too easy to just go to conference champs. But, you’re right….its not about football. It’s about the $$$ from TV. 17 the teams, 17 the schools, and 171717 the fans
24 would actually more closely resemble the number of teams that make it in EVERY OTHER NCAA SPORT.

But I'm fine with 16, And no, there was never any "beauty" of the old bowl system of college football (not football in general - remember - no level of football operated like college).

And more teams getting in gives more fanbases hope. And that's what this is about. Nobody wants to watch Alabama and Ohio State or Clemson play every year. The 4-team playoff was the worst move in the history of college football, besides the immediate eligibility portal.
 

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Sell. I'm not watching 12 hours of inauguration coverage.
 

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I had no interest in the NC game to be honest. Jan 20 is too late for college football to still be going in. Not really a fan of the NFL, but playoff NFL games like we got Sunday with the conditions in Philly and Buffalo was a whole lot more interesting and exciting than last night.
My wife, who pays no attention whatsoever, asked me "Shouldn't this have been over right after New Years?". They need to streamline it, cut back on regular season games, something...
 

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I was burnt out by the political talking heads by the time the game started but I still quit watching at the end of the third quarter. Started reading a book about Bill Ruger inventing the Standard 22 automatic
sure he did***
 

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I think a lot of you guys are overestimating how much the general population cares about a presidential inauguration. I have never watched a presidential inauguration in my life, because who gives a ****? I didn’t watch the championship trophy presentation after the game. Same thing.
 
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Are Friday nights not as good as holiday Mondays?

12% is pretty significant. I'm sure inauguration festivities ate into it a bit but not near the full 3 million.

I wonder how ratings would be for a Friday night game? No NFL competition but has to be a season for Monday slot.
I think part of it is also how each game developed. Last year’s game was close until Michigan pulled away in the 4th quarter. This year’s game was 31-7 right after halftime and never felt particularly close until late in the 4th.

Also, last year you had what was thought to be the ‘novelty’ of having no SEC teams.
 

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I think the farther away you get from NYD, the less people are interested in college football. The final day of the CFB season for decades was NYD. With the start of the CFP, the final game moved back to the week after New Years, which was still ok, because it was only one extra week. But this year and I assume years in the future, the title game is three weeks after NYD. It’s right in the middle of college basketball season and the NFL playoffs. It’s just too late in the year. I think that is the biggest reason for the drop in viewership, not the inauguration.
 
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My wife, who pays no attention whatsoever, asked me "Shouldn't this have been over right after New Years?". They need to streamline it, cut back on regular season games, something...
And it’s still not as long as CBK season.
 

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Are Friday nights not as good as holiday Mondays?

12% is pretty significant. I'm sure inauguration festivities ate into it a bit but not near the full 3 million.

I wonder how ratings would be for a Friday night game? No NFL competition but has to be a season for Monday slot.
I think there is just an element of random chance in these ratings. 2021 had Ohio State and Bama and drew one of the worst finals ratings in the CFP era at 19 million.
 
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Buy. Anticlimactic. They stretched out the games too far. Plus Ohio State just blew everybody out, not really competitive.
 
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I think a lot of you guys are overestimating how much the general population cares about a presidential inauguration. I have never watched a presidential inauguration in my life, because who gives a ****? I didn’t watch the championship trophy presentation after the game. Same thing.
I watched it, then turned to the game I gave 2 shots about.
 

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Figure out a way to make it work? While you’re at it figure out a way to exceed the speed of light.

The win-win is to not play on Saturdays vs NFL, especially NFL playoffs. You will lose every time. And do you really want a championship game that starts at 9AM on the west coast? That’s a losing proposition too.
Patdog being patdog.

Yeah trying to fit 3 games in on a saturday is total the same as this.
 

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Exactly my thoughts. That had to be the most pointless tweet of all time.

“Most watched non-NFL sporting event in the last year” So….most watched non-NFL game since last year’s championship game? No shít…..of course it was. Did anyone think the WNBA title game or Game 2 of the ALCS was going to top it or something?

“Most watched of all the CFP postseason games”. The NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP was somehow the most watched CFB postseason game? I’ll be damned.
 
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Patdog being patdog.

Yeah trying to fit 3 games in on a saturday is total the same as this.
So what do you suggest to not kill your ratings? Of course you could get it in by starting at noon Eastern. But that's 9AM for 55,000,000 potential viewers. You really want to try that? But if you play later, the NFL will crush your ratings. For context, when college playoff games went against NFL regular season games last month, the NFL drew 15.5M & 15.4M. College playoffs drew 6.4M & 8.6M, less than half what the other playoff games drew. And that was against regular season games.
 

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but how many views did they get with adding the extra games? There were eleven plaoff games compared to 3 last year. I am willing to bet they more than made up for the drop off in the last game. There may be some fatigue, but they are more than making up for quality with quantity.
 

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Here are the matchups and viewership numbers for the CFP since a playoff was introduced. Year is the 'season', not the year the game was actually played. Winner listed first:


YearMatchupViewershipSpreadDifferentialNotes
2014Ohio State vs Oregon33.4 MillionOre 5.5OSU 22First ever CFP
2015Alabama vs Clemson26.18 MillionBama 6.5Bama 540 pt combined 4th qtr
2016Clemson vs Alabama26.03 MillionBama 6.5Clem 4Last second game winning TD.
2017Alabama vs Georgia28.44 Million Bama 3.5Bama 3First All-SEC CFP, OT game
2018Clemson vs Alabama25.28 MillionBama 5Clem 28Blowout
2019LSU vs Clemson25.59 MillionLSU 4.5LSU 17Joe Burrow season
2020Alabama vs Ohio State18.71 MillionBama 9.5Bama 28Covid season. Blowout
2021Georgia vs Alabama22.6 MillionUGA 3UGA 150 TDs in first half. Bama only scored FGs.
2022Georgia vs TCU16.6 MillionUGA 13.5UGA 58HUGE Blowout
2023Michigan vs Washington25.1 MillionMich 4.5Mich 21no SEC for 1st time since 2014
2024Ohio State vs Notre Dame22.1 MillionOSU 8.5OSU 11MLK Day, Inauguration

All that to say, the post-Covid CFP national championship hasn't hit the numbers that pre-Covid CFP championship hit. One other interesting thing I found looking at this is that we never had a point spread higher than a touchdown before Covid. Since Covid, 3 of the 5 games have had a point spread of more than a touchdown (including this year's).
 
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Here are the matchups and viewership numbers for the CFP since a playoff was introduced. Year is the 'season', not the year the game was actually played. Winner listed first:


YearMatchupViewershipSpreadDifferentialNotes
2014Ohio State vs Oregon33.4 MillionOre 5.5OSU 22First ever CFP
2015Alabama vs Clemson26.18 MillionBama 6.5Bama 540 pt combined 4th qtr
2016Clemson vs Alabama26.03 MillionBama 6.5Clem 4Last second game winning TD.
2017Alabama vs Georgia28.44 MillionBama 3.5Bama 3First All-SEC CFP, OT game
2018Clemson vs Alabama25.28 MillionBama 5Clem 28Blowout
2019LSU vs Clemson25.59 MillionLSU 4.5LSU 17Joe Burrow season
2020Alabama vs Ohio State18.71 MillionBama 9.5Bama 28Covid season. Blowout
2021Georgia vs Alabama22.6 MillionUGA 3UGA 150 TDs in first half. Bama only scored FGs.
2022Georgia vs TCU16.6 MillionUGA 13.5UGA 58HUGE Blowout
2023Michigan vs Washington25.1 MillionMich 4.5Mich 21no SEC for 1st time since 2014
2024Ohio State vs Notre Dame22.1 MillionOSU 8.5OSU 11MLK Day, Inauguration

All that to say, the post-Covid CFP national championship hasn't hit the numbers that pre-Covid CFP championship hit. One other interesting thing I found looking at this is that we never had a point spread higher than a touchdown before Covid. Since Covid, 3 of the 5 games have had a point spread of more than a touchdown (including this year's).
Hmm. When accounting for population increases over the past decade, that chart could be used to make quite the argument for a pronounced decline in the popularity of college football in general since 2014.

Which is perhaps a good and hopeful thing, because it totally 17ing sucks now.
 

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So what do you suggest to not kill your ratings? Of course you could get it in by starting at noon Eastern. But that's 9AM for 55,000,000 potential viewers. You really want to try that? But if you play later, the NFL will crush your ratings. For context, when college playoff games went against NFL regular season games last month, the NFL drew 15.5M & 15.4M. College playoffs drew 6.4M & 8.6M, less than half what the other playoff games drew. And that was against regular season games.
I was gonna leave it up to the experts not some D bag on Sixpack
 
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