Calling it now: We beat UcheaT next week. Read why...

Tngamecock

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Look, I get rivalries breed hate and all that, but none of that has anything to do with the current conversation. Besides, you'd probably kill to have 3 National Championships, no matter how you got them (and your '16 and '18 arguments are tenuous, at best).

Regardless, yes, we have an easier path, as I said, but I dare say y'all wouldn't have fared much better in the ACC over the past decade or so than you have in the SEC. If our games against each other are anything to go by, you wouldn't have won a conference championship, for sure. MAYBE a division title, if you were in the Coastal. So, keep parroting "the weak ACC" narrative, but that's also a weak argument when y'all would still have been middle of the pack in that same weak ACC.
The weak argument is simple..................do you think you would make the playoffs if you played an SEC schedule every year? That's the point. You built up a quality team, I tip my cap on that one. But only having to get up for one good team a year (which in the ACC we're not sure who that really is), along with some games against mythical players like BC, Syracuse, Louisville (whom you build up cause you desperately need a big game), gives you a better than average path to the playoffs.

The eye test on any ranked ACC team not named Clemson lends towards a bunch of teams similar to the middle of the pack SEC teams. Would love to see you walk through an SEC East schedule with an LSU or Bama or Ole Miss kicker for your cross division games. Let's see if you're in the playoffs.
 

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BTW, does Beamer have a hyperactive disorder? just watching him speak is painful.
Do y'all all have thyroid problems, hereditary inbred obesity, or are you all just fata??es with syphilis from "utilizing" the same hookers? I have never seen another herd of cattle and piglets quite like what y'all send to Columbia.

East Tennessee is a welfare state. You got poisoned from Oak Ridge radiation and eating lead paint. Your economy is prostitution, meth, and prison. You've never seen a beach in your life, but plenty of whales at your prom.

Congrats on a good football season.
 

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Look, I get rivalries breed hate and all that, but none of that has anything to do with the current conversation. Besides, you'd probably kill to have 3 National Championships, no matter how you got them (and your '16 and '18 arguments are tenuous, at best).

Regardless, yes, we have an easier path, as I said, but I dare say y'all wouldn't have fared much better in the ACC over the past decade or so than you have in the SEC. If our games against each other are anything to go by, you wouldn't have won a conference championship, for sure. MAYBE a division title, if you were in the Coastal. So, keep parroting "the weak ACC" narrative, but that's also a weak argument when y'all would still have been middle of the pack in that same weak ACC.

I don't think you're understanding my point. (Shocking) *CLEMSON CHEATS* Always has / always will. 99.99% of High School students couldn't point to Clemson, SC on a map with a gun to their head. Go away now cheatah.....

Clemsons favorite play at home when losing ?? > Throw it deep and wait for the PI call. Like $$$ in the bank. You can keep arguing with me if you want and I'll just keep burying you with facts. Ya'll suck / you just cheat. Plain and simple. The end.
 

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I don't think you're understanding my point. (Shocking) *CLEMSON CHEATS* Always has / always will. 99.99% of High School students couldn't point to Clemson, SC on a map with a gun to their head. Go away now cheatah.....

Clemsons favorite play at home when losing ?? > Throw it deep and wait for the PI call. Like $$$ in the bank. You can keep arguing with me if you want and I'll just keep burying you with facts. Ya'll suck / you just cheat. Plain and simple. The end.
Say what you want, but I still think you'd trade your soul for three National Championships, no matter how you got them...
 
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Say what you want, but I still think you'd trade your soul for three National Championships, no matter how you got them...
That's where you're wrong. *I* would not. Clearly USC *Will Not*

And that is why Clemson wins / and USC sucks.

Doing it the right way matters. - Yeah, ya'll got 3 Nattys. And all 3 have asterisks beside them and we'll never let you forget it. It's good cop / bad cop scenario.

One thing I do agree with you about - (with an exception) - USC being in the ACC would not have made much, if any difference vs being in the SEC in the overall record of things. *EXCEPT* > During the "good" Spurrier years. (Towards the end of his tenure) We beat ya'll 5 straight, and during those 5 years, would have won the ACC crown every year. Aside from that valid point, I agree with you about the record thing.

When we were beating ya'll 5 straight, I can't recall off the top of my head who was head and shoulders better than Clemson. And if ya'll were the best in the ACC those 5 years and we beat you handily, ----- the logic leads to > ACC Champs. Which is like the worlds tallest midget (small person to be PC) trophy. It's irrelevant. Furthermore, when OU and TX join the SEC - literally no other conference will matter. *SOMEBODY* from the SEC will be Natty Champs every year for the foreseeable next 2 decades. Much like the past 2 decades.

If I could wave a magic wand and change things, I'd kick Vandy out and replace Vandy with Clemson. Ya'll would then immediately start enjoying 6-8 win seasons and not be relevant either. What can I say? I despise cheaters.

But to be fair - (I am fair) - You do have somewhat of a point because I wanted Kiffin because he *CAN* flat out coach & he knows how to cheat too. So I give you a slight nod of the selling the soul thing. However to be fair again - that comes from frustration and the old saying of "if you can't beat em', join em' " - cheating. 100+ years of suckage will tempt anybody. :)
 

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I'm just a third party "Tater" commenter here, but Trident does at least have one good point.

UofSC really isn't an SEC caliber program, and never really has been, outside of the good Spurrier years. The admin seems content with mediocrity. Yeah we (Clemson) may have an easier path in the ACC, BUT, so would UofSC, and I can guarantee our fan base wouldn't put up with what's going on down in Columbia right now, even if we were in the SEC. Heads would roll in a swift manner. If the admin refuses to make the changes necessary to compete in the SEC, then why even bother staying? (Yes, I know Vandy exists, but why accept that bottom half mentality when UofSC SHOULD and DOES have the resources to do better?)
Why do you think you’re HC is interviewing with Auburn? They won’t hire him cause they’re about to land Kiffin. Even Dabo knows the ACC is a joke. Clemson’s Day’s are over.
 

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No reason you all belong in the SEC. Worst decision ever to allow SC and Arkansas in years ago. YOU DONT BELONG!
Uh.....last i checked SC has won national championships in WBB and Baseball and a MBB final four. GFY
 
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Anything can happen. It more likely that we get a beat down this Saturday though.
 

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Uh.....last i checked SC has won national championships in WBB and Baseball and a MBB final four. GFY
That is true and is a good thing but the reality is; no one really gives a flip about a WBB national championship or a MBB final four (unless you win it all). Being a great baseball school is another sort of "meh" thing to talk about. No one is making multi thousand dollar donations to the WBB or baseball programs so they can get tickets to the games. Whether we like it or not, football drives the sports machine at USC and Clemson (and pretty much every other school in the Southeast). If we were like KY, Duke, UNC, UVA, etc. and basketball was our #1 sport, we would shrug off our mediocrity in football like those schools do. Sadly, we put most of our money, focus and passion into football and we have been mired in mediocrity for over a century.

I've grown to believe joining the SEC was a bad decision. We didn't need to remain independent but we shouldn't have jumped into the toughest conference in the country when we were a mediocre at best program. We've had a three year stretch where we had a great coach, caught lightning in a bottle with recruiting and our rivals in the East were down where we managed to win our division one time. We then went on to lose in record fashion in the SECCG to Auburn. We should have done whatever it took to get into the ACC. We would have been a competitive program in the ACC and probably would have won our division and the conference title a few times in the same time span we've been in the SEC. Those titles and division wins would have helped us recruit better than being third in the East in our better seasons in the SEC. Clemson has had the benefit of being pretty much the sole football power in the ACC for the past decade. It makes recruiting much easier for them. If we had been in the ACC since 1991 we would have been able to recruit better because we would have a much better resume and I think we would be much closer in talent with Clemson than we are now.

A win against UT would do more for sports at USC than another WBB championship or baseball championship. We can win Saturday if we can pressure Hooker up the middle and Rattler can figure out which end is up. The UT defense is awful, especially the secondary. I think if we can stay with them scoring into the third quarter we can win the game. We can't let them jump out to a three score lead. UT isn't a team you can put in a low scoring, grind it out game unless you have a defense like Georgia's and we don't have that. We are going to have to move the ball on them and score points.
 
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That is true and is a good thing but the reality is; no one really gives a flip about a WBB national championship or a MBB final four (unless you win it all). Being a great baseball school is another sort of "meh" thing to talk about. No one is making multi thousand dollar donations to the WBB or baseball programs so they can get tickets to the games. Whether we like it or not, football drives the sports machine at USC and Clemson (and pretty much every other school in the Southeast). If we were like KY, Duke, UNC, UVA, etc. and basketball was our #1 sport, we would shrug off our mediocrity in football like those schools do. Sadly, we put most of our money, focus and passion into football and we have been mired in mediocrity for over a century.

I've grown to believe joining the SEC was a bad decision. We didn't need to remain independent but we shouldn't have jumped into the toughest conference in the country when we were a mediocre at best program. We've had a three year stretch where we had a great coach, caught lightning in a bottle with recruiting and our rivals in the East were down where we managed to win our division one time. We then went on to lose in record fashion in the SECCG to Auburn. We should have done whatever it took to get into the ACC. We would have been a competitive program in the ACC and probably would have won our division and the conference title a few times in the same time span we've been in the SEC. Those titles and division wins would have helped us recruit better than being third in the East in our better seasons in the SEC. Clemson has had the benefit of being pretty much the sole football power in the ACC for the past decade. It makes recruiting much easier for them. If we had been in the ACC since 1991 we would have been able to recruit better because we would have a much better resume and I think we would be much closer in talent with Clemson than we are now.

A win against UT would do more for sports at USC than another WBB championship or baseball championship. We can win Saturday if we can pressure Hooker up the middle and Rattler can figure out which end is up. The UT defense is awful, especially the secondary. I think if we can stay with them scoring into the third quarter we can win the game. We can't let them jump out to a three score lead. UT isn't a team you can put in a low scoring, grind it out game unless you have a defense like Georgia's and we don't have that. We are going to have to move the ball on them and score points.
"We"?
 

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No reason you all belong in the SEC. Worst decision ever to allow SC and Arkansas in years ago. YOU DONT BELONG!
How do you like me now.....??? Who doesn't belong again???

Weren't you the one that posted a picture of #5 (Hooker) and said "He's coming for you." -- ???

#1) We've had better hookers in Columbia
#2) I told you (or someone) #5 WOULD BE TAKEN OUT (injury) in this game. I just got the quarter wrong. Silly Hillbillies.

If that was not you who posted that "He's coming for you" thread - then I apologize for asking who #5 was.
 
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It's very simple actually. Bottom line is > Gamecocks history is beating teams they have no business beating.

Add to that UcheaT will think it will be a cakewalk (and it should be) but the ball bounces funny sometimes. I'm calling the massive upset now. We'll need Lloyd though.

Laugh away. Ok, I'm really, really done now. Said everything I wanted to say in different threads and if you notice during the week - I don't post new threads or even respond to threads in progress. I just love CFB Saturdays.
Well done, brother.
 

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It's very simple actually. Bottom line is > Gamecocks history is beating teams they have no business beating.

Add to that UcheaT will think it will be a cakewalk (and it should be) but the ball bounces funny sometimes. I'm calling the massive upset now. We'll need Lloyd though.

Laugh away. Ok, I'm really, really done now. Said everything I wanted to say in different threads and if you notice during the week - I don't post new threads or even respond to threads in progress. I just love CFB Saturdays.
You straight up called like no other. Monumental prognostication with zero reason to believe it would be possible. I don't even know what I just watched.
 

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That is true and is a good thing but the reality is; no one really gives a flip about a WBB national championship or a MBB final four (unless you win it all). Being a great baseball school is another sort of "meh" thing to talk about. No one is making multi thousand dollar donations to the WBB or baseball programs so they can get tickets to the games. Whether we like it or not, football drives the sports machine at USC and Clemson (and pretty much every other school in the Southeast). If we were like KY, Duke, UNC, UVA, etc. and basketball was our #1 sport, we would shrug off our mediocrity in football like those schools do. Sadly, we put most of our money, focus and passion into football and we have been mired in mediocrity for over a century.

I've grown to believe joining the SEC was a bad decision. We didn't need to remain independent but we shouldn't have jumped into the toughest conference in the country when we were a mediocre at best program. We've had a three year stretch where we had a great coach, caught lightning in a bottle with recruiting and our rivals in the East were down where we managed to win our division one time. We then went on to lose in record fashion in the SECCG to Auburn. We should have done whatever it took to get into the ACC. We would have been a competitive program in the ACC and probably would have won our division and the conference title a few times in the same time span we've been in the SEC. Those titles and division wins would have helped us recruit better than being third in the East in our better seasons in the SEC. Clemson has had the benefit of being pretty much the sole football power in the ACC for the past decade. It makes recruiting much easier for them. If we had been in the ACC since 1991 we would have been able to recruit better because we would have a much better resume and I think we would be much closer in talent with Clemson than we are now.

A win against UT would do more for sports at USC than another WBB championship or baseball championship. We can win Saturday if we can pressure Hooker up the middle and Rattler can figure out which end is up. The UT defense is awful, especially the secondary. I think if we can stay with them scoring into the third quarter we can win the game. We can't let them jump out to a three score lead. UT isn't a team you can put in a low scoring, grind it out game unless you have a defense like Georgia's and we don't have that. We are going to have to move the ball on them and score points.
Rehashing old news, we should never have left the ACC in the first place.

All sports matter. Not every sport matters to everybody - that's okay.

Yes, football pays for all sports not named basketball (both genders) and baseball. These other programs would survive if not for the football cash infusion, but certainly at not as high a caliber as they currently compete.

Sadly, it bears repeating again, and again, and again:
I want all varsity sports at USC to win, compete well, and represent USC well, regardless of whether or not I closely follow a particular sport.

All athletes who work hard at their sport and sacrifice many hours on it deserve our respect.
 
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It's very simple actually. Bottom line is > Gamecocks history is beating teams they have no business beating.

Add to that UcheaT will think it will be a cakewalk (and it should be) but the ball bounces funny sometimes. I'm calling the massive upset now. We'll need Lloyd though.

Laugh away. Ok, I'm really, really done now. Said everything I wanted to say in different threads and if you notice during the week - I don't post new threads or even respond to threads in progress. I just love CFB Saturdays.
Overall good call, but not having Lloyd and the other back set the stage for the win. I propound the view that their absence inclined Beamer to scrap the tedious Satterfield approach and adopt the "sling it around 'cause we ain't got nothing to lose" approach".
 

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Overall good call, but not having Lloyd and the other back set the stage for the win. I propound the view that their absence inclined Beamer to scrap the tedious Satterfield approach and adopt the "sling it around 'cause we ain't got nothing to lose" approach".
Fair enough. The intent behind the Lloyd comment was > We need *SOMEBODY* that can get us 3.5 yards on a 3rd and 3 ..... and JuJu ain't that guy. He needs to be moved to slot WR. He's just too small in the backfield in the SEC.

I was also wrong about the quarter in which Hooker would be "taken out." - I predicted 2nd quarter but turned out it was the 4th quarter. Eh..
 
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No reason you all belong in the SEC. Worst decision ever to allow SC and Arkansas in years ago. YOU DONT BELONG!
Still waiting for my reply....... we *DEMOLISHED* you *AND* we took out your Hooker. JUST. LIKE. I. SAID. -- One thing is for certain, UT doesn't belong in the playoffs. :) (ever) UT = Vandy 2.0 with more fans.
 

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Im glad that it’s TN at the bottom of the SEC barrel with Vanderbilt. Stinky bottom dwellers!!!!
 

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Fair enough. The intent behind the Lloyd comment was > We need *SOMEBODY* that can get us 3.5 yards on a 3rd and 3 ..... and JuJu ain't that guy. He needs to be moved to slot WR. He's just too small in the backfield in the SEC.

I was also wrong about the quarter in which Hooker would be "taken out." - I predicted 2nd quarter but turned out it was the 4th quarter. Eh..
I think that man who toted the mail last night did well enough because he's a great athlete and we ran an offense they couldn't pile up on. We ran an offense against Missouri that required nothing more than a seven or eight-man front with no concern we could or would attack them downfield. Everything Lloyd got in that game, he had to do it trying to penetrate a wall. The offense we ran last night would have reduced Missouri to dust.
 

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We still do not belong clown??? GFY and stay away from your uncle's sheep.
Made me spit water out of my mouth with that one.

Just think: The team that DOES NOT BELONG in the SEC just *OBLITERATED* the team that thinks that........... that ought to tell you right there how delusional that inbred fanbase is. (Que Deliverance Banjo's)
 
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OP 63-38 You are the man!!
That game could help on so many levels as long as we don't screw the pooch this weekend. Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. On that note, there is a kid out of Mississippi CC Elijah Davis who is supposedly a SC lean who looks like a Freak. 315lbs. look at his highlight reels from Senior season. They had him at middle LB because he runs so well. Even caught a long pass that he scored on. Mr. ED come on down!!
maybe with portal we can cover some spots. Need at OL and LB. Maybe TE too. Anybody have any intell on transfer, Juco, or remaining targets?