Can't blame him, that type of money is life changing.
This is getting more and more interesting and the PGA tour field is getting weaker.
This is getting more and more interesting and the PGA tour field is getting weaker.
Cam Smith Joins LIV Golf for $140 Million
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Cam is so short-sighted. He could win numerous majors in the next few years and make more money than he can spend in a lifetime. LIV just lost its first case in court. The long and short is that they will lose more court cases. LIV is a choice. The PGA is on solid ground that you allow people to take the Saudi Money and play on their tour, but if you do, you cannot play for them. The suspension does not deprive them of a chance to make a living, which is the standard anti-trust cause for redress. I hate to see him go, but he’s going out rich, but playing in majors in the future will be hard for a LIV player, since world ranking is based on competition-based tournament play.
I don’t think the majors have banned LIV players. Did I miss that? I thought the only thing meaningful to bam LIV players was the Ryder Cup, which doesn’t affect him anyway.
Cam will be banned as soon as he signs with LIV, which is supposed to happen after the FexEx Championsip in Atlanta. He will be disqualified from the President’s Cup, which takes place in early October. The big issue for LIV golfers is World Ranking. That’s how you qualify automatically for two majors. The Master’s is by invitation only (if your aren’t ranked you won’t be invited). The PGA is members only. D. Johnson, Sergio, and Patrick Reed resigned from the tour; the rest are suspended for two years.
17-em
Not watching nor do I want to watch silly golf on some streaming channel.
Those who stay on the Tour have my respect and TV viewing time and the occasional ability to be on course at tourney’s in Augusta, Memphis, Atlanta, Charlotte, Palm Beach Gdns, etc.
Not watching nor do I want to watch silly golf on some streaming channel.
Those who stay on the Tour have my respect and TV viewing time and the occasional ability to be on course at tourney’s in Augusta, Memphis, Atlanta, Charlotte, Palm Beach Gdns, etc.
The also invite
Past major winners for various length of times depending on the major. He just won a major.
Past major winners for various length of times depending on the major. He just won a major.
The bad blood is building, this is becoming an HBO drama series in the making
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_br...ams-liv-golf-saudi-series-accuses-tiger-woods
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_br...ams-liv-golf-saudi-series-accuses-tiger-woods
Well it is the Saudis. These are the same people who are about to build an entire city in the middle of the desert near the Red Sea.
Thats quite the flip by Freddie Couples because he used to complain quite a bit about the PGA Tour.
If you win the British Open, you're in the Open until you're 60, and you're in the Masters, U.S. Open and PGA Championship for five years.
In that court case it was revealed that all the money is up front. So all the big names that get the 100mill. Your prize money goes against that 100mill. It’s just an exhibition with really rich people playing golf. Harlem Globtrotters without the dunks
This seams to be a big disconnect. I don’t think LIV intends to be a tour like the PGA Tour. It’s a glorified version of “The Match” or the other golf exhibitions. People watch them for their entertainment value. It likely would’ve run its course and been dead within a couple years had the PGA tour basically ignored it. The guy running the PGA tour has put on a master class on how to make a mountain out of a mole hill. He’s also made many of his top players a ton of money while reducing the value of his organization. How does he still have a job?
The issue is that most players qualify for majors via their Official World Golf Ranking. As of now, LIV events don't receive OWGR points, so if that's all you're playing outside of majors, your ranking will plummet.
This isn't as much of an issue for Cam Smith, though, because he just won the Open, which gets him into every Open until he's 60 and every other major for 5 years.
They said the exact same thing about Chelsea and Manchester City and the EPL a decade or two ago. That guy has obviously paid attention to what happens when oil money invades a sport.
The more major players that leave the PGA, the more it will become an inferior product.
The could have tried to have it be more like WGC. Not sure if LIV would have been interested in that, but PGA could have tried to negotiate for a lesser number of tournaments, say 5 yearly (2 in off season and 3 spread through season?) and allowing PGA members to play freely in them in exchange for LIV restriction on expanding past those 5 tournaments. Saudi's could have had their own worldwide Mini-tour with the best of the best and only had to promise some guaranteed payouts instead of committing a billion dollars to it. Could have potentially broken even on it.
But again, no clue if that would have scratched their itch.
Don't think the PGA is members only? The PGA is not put on by the tour but by PGA of America. THey hold 20 spots for club pros, who obviously aren't members of the tour. Think they have the same types of exemptions as other majors (e.g., past winners) also.
I know Freddy. He never had a beef with the PGA Tour. I also have family that know Greg Norman quite well. No one liked him when he was on tour. They respected him but had no friends on tour. He's going to need to rent pallbearer's at his funeral. I am surprised to see Freddy come out and say this publicly. The PGA Tour is a pretty small fraternity whether your current or a past member. This whole LIV deal has created quite the **** show.
How’s their current plan working out?
Top players are still playing on LIV, but they aren’t playing on the PGA Tour at all. The PGA Tour was acting like they had a strong hand while holding pocket 6’s and then went all-in after the flop came out Ace, Ace, King by trying to strong arm the top players. If they don’t forbid players from playing a few LIV exhibitions, the Saudis are less likely to shell out the stupid money they are. Even if they still did, the PGA is better off with part time top players, than without them.
That’s the Gordon Gecko efficient market ******** taught to us in McCool and business schools everywhere back in the 1980s - it was the seedbed for where are today.
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