Can we agree the tariffs are retarded?

[Tuamuchspeed]

And the reasoning is even more retarded?

Trade deficits do not mean that you are getting screwed, or that you're losing a trade war. The American economy is a service economy. We don't survive by exporting raw materials.

Insinuating that we've been screwed by South Korea because we import twice as much from them as they import from us makes no sense. We are 7x their size in terms of population and GDP.

This is a tax on the American people. If you want MAGA to be successful, the last thing that can be afforded is economic downturns that are 100% self-inflicted.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

These cultists who can’t spell tariff are about to come on here and pledge their suppeort for their dear leader. They have never taken an economics course in their life but they are experts.

They would believe the world is flat if he said it.

it’s the most pathetic thing in American history since the civil war.

 

[UGA03MAIN]

Retarded for who? We literally have a template of them working under Trump. They are a negotiating tool. We are 37 trillion in debt.... I don't think what we have been doing is going to work out. I'm order to make a fair judgment, we would have to analyze every single tariff. If you want to focus on a few here and there, then yes, possibly. I was more concerned when Trump banned bump stocks. I still respect your opinion OP even if it's different than mine.

 

[Tuamuchspeed]

Retarded for who? We literally have a template of them working under Trump. They are a negotiating tool. We are 37 trillion in debt.... I don't think what we have been doing is going to work out. I'm order to make a fair judgment, we would have to analyze every single tariff. If you want to focus on a few here and there, then yes, possibly. I was more concerned when Trump banned bump stocks. I still respect your opinion OP even if it's different than mine.

They have worked historically for Trump as a negotiating tool, and they worked far better than I anticipated in Trump's first term. Maybe that's the case now too, but I don't see it.

This looks far less thoughtful than Trump 1.0 tariffs where we spent months to years driving down foreign tariffs. This is just unilateral application of a broad standard that is not going to do much except for unify foreign adversaries and allies alike around a common economic enemy - US.

It just seems like a brute force approach that will push our economic partners away, and applying it so broadly just makes us look like a bully instead of a sovereign nation reacting to something specific to protect its constituents in the long term.

We know that tariffs don't work as policy, so the only argument for it is as a negotiation tactic and I don't see how this implementation enables negotiation.

 

[Hit]

Retarded for who? We literally have a template of them working under Trump. They are a negotiating tool. We are 37 trillion in debt.... I don't think what we have been doing is going to work out. I'm order to make a fair judgment, we would have to analyze every single tariff. If you want to focus on a few here and there, then yes, possibly. I was more concerned when Trump banned bump stocks. I still respect your opinion OP even if it's different than mine.

They have obviously started to work also, because look at all the companies investing in bringing their businesses to the US now. Biden nor any Democrat could have done what Trump has accomplished in only 2 and a half months. Trust me when I say that the American auto industry will fight against this, but sooner or later they will be doing all their manufacturing back in the US also soon.

 

[UGA03MAIN]

They have worked historically for Trump as a negotiating tool, and they worked far better than I anticipated in Trump's first term. Maybe that's the case now too, but I don't see it.

This looks far less thoughtful than Trump 1.0 tariffs where we spent months to years driving down foreign tariffs. This is just unilateral application of a broad standard that is not going to do much except for unify foreign adversaries and allies alike around a common economic enemy - US.

It just seems like a brute force approach that will push our economic partners away, and applying it so broadly just makes us look like a bully instead of a sovereign nation reacting to something specific to protect its constituents in the long term.

We know that tariffs don't work as policy, so the only argument for it is as a negotiation tactic and I don't see how this implementation enables negotiation.

I have wondered if all of this is a negotiating tool. That's Trump's MO for sure. We will see

 

[UGA03MAIN]

They have obviously started to work also, because look at all the companies investing in bringing their businesses to the US now. Biden nor any Democrat could have done what Trump has accomplished in only 2 and a half months. Trust me when I say that the American auto industry will fight against this, but sooner or later they will be doing all their manufacturing back in the US also soon.

I wonder if our friends on here remember this?

 

[UGA03MAIN]

And this....

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

They have obviously started to work also, because look at all the companies investing in bringing their businesses to the US now. Biden nor any Democrat could have done what Trump has accomplished in only 2 and a half months. Trust me when I say that the American auto industry will fight against this, but sooner or later they will be doing all their manufacturing back in the US also soon.

DELUSIONAL North Korea spin. Impressive. The markets are in free fall cultist.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

And this....

It’s called using a scalpel instead of blowing up the entire world.
You deouchbags are literally like 5 year olds when it comes to adult conversations.

if’s pathetic how you try to navigate any political conversation with cherry picked stats and sound bites.
The MARKETS THINK HIS APPROACH IS INCOMPTENT AND RECKLESS.

Drink more cool aid.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

They have worked historically for Trump as a negotiating tool, and they worked far better than I anticipated in Trump's first term. Maybe that's the case now too, but I don't see it.

This looks far less thoughtful than Trump 1.0 tariffs where we spent months to years driving down foreign tariffs. This is just unilateral application of a broad standard that is not going to do much except for unify foreign adversaries and allies alike around a common economic enemy - US.

It just seems like a brute force approach that will push our economic partners away, and applying it so broadly just makes us look like a bully instead of a sovereign nation reacting to something specific to protect its constituents in the long term.

We know that tariffs don't work as policy, so the only argument for it is as a negotiation tactic and I don't see how this implementation enables negotiation.

Very well said.

 

[EL Dawg]

 

[Semper High]

I’m not a tariff guy but do import/export daily and understand how tariffs (some) other countries have on our goods is far from reciprocal or “fair”. It makes it harder for US companies to be competitive and do business abroad, whilst we have little to no tariffs on importing their goods which helps the economies of those countries.

 

[Hit]

Oh now you all like Rand Paul... lol!

 

[Hit]

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

Oh now you all like Rand Paul... lol!

I really liked his dad Ron. I read the book “end the fed” which was excellent. We don’t have to like him to agree with him on FACTS.

How many times were you dropped as a child?

The more important point is why do facts bother you so much?
Because you are in a cult. Duh.

 

[MattUGA1]

I'm in wait and see mode with Trump. He has been talking about this subject since he appeared on Oprah in the late 80's and 90's. I know he has a plan and it wouldn't purposely do dumb ****. The biggest beef I have with Trump is how his entire administration cucks to Israel.

I feel like the explanation below makes a lot of sense.

 

[MattUGA1]

I really liked his dad Ron. I read the book “end the fed” which was excellent. We don’t have to like him to agree with him on FACTS.

How many times were you dropped as a child?

The more important point is why do facts bother you so much?
Because you are in a cult. Duh.

Wow, we actually agree on something. Ron Paul could have been the best thing to ever happen to America if elected president. I realized how rigged the system is when the blocked him from debating Romney so Obama could kick Romney's ***. Paul would have beaten Obama in a straight up real election.

 

[MattUGA1]

They have worked historically for Trump as a negotiating tool, and they worked far better than I anticipated in Trump's first term. Maybe that's the case now too, but I don't see it.

This looks far less thoughtful than Trump 1.0 tariffs where we spent months to years driving down foreign tariffs. This is just unilateral application of a broad standard that is not going to do much except for unify foreign adversaries and allies alike around a common economic enemy - US.

It just seems like a brute force approach that will push our economic partners away, and applying it so broadly just makes us look like a bully instead of a sovereign nation reacting to something specific to protect its constituents in the long term.

We know that tariffs don't work as policy, so the only argument for it is as a negotiation tactic and I don't see how this implementation enables negotiation.

At first I thought Lutnick would be a solid pick but I feel like he is driving these broad tarrifs more so than Trump.

 

[MattUGA1]

Trump is apparently making a deal with Argentina to be the first tarrif free country.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

I'm in wait and see mode with Trump. He has been talking about this subject since he appeared on Oprah in the late 80's and 90's. I know he has a plan and it wouldn't purposely do dumb ****. The biggest beef I have with Trump is how his entire administration cucks to Israel.

I feel like the explanation below makes a lot of sense.

You are in delusional mode. What trump did yesterday was FAR beyond reckless and incompetent economics. its literally the most egregious self sabotage in American economic history. It’s so bad that im rooting for it to tank the economy now so evenyou cultists have to wake up.

trump is succeeding.. in accelerating the entire world to jointly move against US interests.

he’s a total disaster. TOTAL.

 

[SilentBanjo]

You are in delusional mode. What trump did yesterday was FAR beyond reckless and incompetent economics. its literally ridiculou. It’s so bad that im rooting for it to tank the economy now so bad that even you cultists have to wake up.
trump is succeeding.. in the entire world jointly moving against US interests.

he’s a total disaster. TOTAL.

The way these clowns embrace their alpha clown is the real essence of TDS. Trump wants to turn back the clock, pretend the U.S. has a expanding manufacturing sector unaffected by corporate automation and a labor force willing to work for low wages similar to those in other countries. The guy is incapable of ever admitting he's wrong and he's colossally wrong on this effort. As someone said, it's like burning down the house to cook a steak.

 

[EL Dawg]

 

[EL Dawg]

 

[Blazing x Cattle]

They have obviously started to work also, because look at all the companies investing in bringing their businesses to the US now. Biden nor any Democrat could have done what Trump has accomplished in only 2 and a half months. Trust me when I say that the American auto industry will fight against this, but sooner or later they will be doing all their manufacturing back in the US also soon.

You’re right. Biden never would’ve let COVID kill 150,000 people in the first 2 1/2 months of the epidemic

 

[Blazing x Cattle]

And this....

So now that you lost the argument you are trying to change the argument. You really are too slow for your own good. Nobody said anything about taking away all tariffs. Trumps plan with tariffs is retarded. Those two things are not the same.
And that brings me to my next point ladies and gentlemen. This man, I think, is trying the whole 2nd amendment shtick with tariffs. If republicans don’t get what they want then they adjust the narrative to stay on the attacks. True definitions of never having to be held accountable. Talk about white effing entitlement

 

[Hit]

You’re right. Biden never would’ve let COVID kill 150,000 people in the first 2 1/2 months of the epidemic

You're an idiot. More people died under Biden from Covid than Trump.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

You're an idiot. More people died under Biden from Covid than Trump.

it’s stunning that you could actually type that and not understand how incapable you are of seeing the giant hole in your logic.do you have a learning disorder?

 

[EL Dawg]

This is sad , definitely not cut out to be a Commander In Chief !!

 

[EL Dawg]

Just a total embarrassment , I hope military leaders hold him accountable for this.

 

[Hit]

This is sad , definitely not cut out to be a Commander In Chief !!

Just a total embarrassment , I hope military leaders hold him accountable for this.

It's going to be a long 4 years for you.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

It's going to be a long 4 years for you.

It’s going to be a long four years for the world jackoff. He’s gone to economic abyss and you are too illiterate economically tounderstand it.

 

[Hit]

It’s going to be a long four years for the world jackoff. He’s gone to economic abyss and you are too illiterate economically tounderstand it.

Good. I'd rather the world burn than have the Dems in charge.

 

[NattybeforeIDie]

Good. I'd rather the world burn than have the Dems in charge.

Well you have confirmed what we already know. You have a Mental illness.

 

[Hit]

Well you have confirmed what we already know. You have a Mental illness.

Says the guy hoping half the country is killed.

 

[EL Dawg]

President Biden was there to support our troops , that's real leadership.

 

[Bigwilly64]

President Biden was there to support our troops , that's real leadership.

Mush brain doesn’t even know what planet he is on. Just stop with your scare tactics. They don’t work anymore, son. I know you Dems haven’t gotten the memo yet, but your party is in the toilet with no signs of a comeback.

 

[Hit]

President Biden was there to support our troops , that's real leadership.

The "troops" despised Obama and Biden.

 

[EL Dawg]

While this clown is embarrassing the hell out of our country , WTH is this fat *** wearing today

 

[MattUGA1]

Lucid and digestible explanation of Trump's tarrifs and why he's doing this. Outlines the potential benefits and risks-

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