Carnivore diet…..

DesotoCountyDawg

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Weight is calories in vs calories expended. You can eat whatever you want, just not as much as you want.
Bingo

Eat plenty of protein and fiber in your daily diet and eat what you want in moderation you’ll lose weight.

Calories in calories out.
 

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My mother lived to 90. She never took blood pressure medicine, she never had cancer, she never had heart problems, she never even went to the Dr from the time I was born until she was in her 80’s. She fried everything, there was a can of bacon grease on the stovetop that went in everything. She had dessert at least once per day if not two meals per day and she wasn’t overweight. She had bread with every meal and probably ate a million eggs in her life. Genetics is a major factor in health and disease late in life. Processed foods I believe are a contributing factor but workplace environment is the biggest factor. My father worked 40 years in a chemical plant and he had everything you can think of medically. Cancer, heart disease, lung disease, anurisms, you name it I think he had it in the last 25 years of his life.
 

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My mother lived to 90. She never took blood pressure medicine, she never had cancer, she never had heart problems, she never even went to the Dr from the time I was born until she was in her 80’s. She fried everything, there was a can of bacon grease on the stovetop that went in everything. She had dessert at least once per day if not two meals per day and she wasn’t overweight. She had bread with every meal and probably ate a million eggs in her life. Genetics is a major factor in health and disease late in life. Processed foods I believe are a contributing factor but workplace environment is the biggest factor. My father worked 40 years in a chemical plant and he had everything you can think of medically. Cancer, heart disease, lung disease, anurisms, you name it I think he had it in the last 25 years of his life.

And/or he had those bad genetics you mentioned.
I guess I'm split, my mom's family lives well into their 80s, dad's family all had problems starting in their early life, dad made it to 69 but started w/ heart issues at 38
 

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Weight is calories in vs calories expended. You can eat whatever you want, just not as much as you want.
This is 100% true but what you eat can increase calories out. Better foods boost metabolism.

what you eat can decrease calories in. More fiber? Probably gonna eat less bc you feel full.
 

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What kind of calories you consume makes a huge difference. Good Lord people. High protein and lower carbs is always best. Real food rather than processed food is always good. Fewer ingredients is better. Besides, who wouldn't rather die from a massive heart attack at 78 than slowly die from cancer over 11 years.
 

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This is 100% true but what you eat can increase calories out. Better foods boost metabolism.

what you eat can decrease calories in. More fiber? Probably gonna eat less bc you feel full.
I think it’s something like less than 10 percent of Americans eat enough of their daily fiber. That makes a big difference
 
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Weight is calories in vs calories expended. You can eat whatever you want, just not as much as you want.

I've yo yo'd my whole life except the last 5 years. Finally got it figured out.

Screw diet plans. Just keep reasonably healthy stuff around and keep yourself out of any kind of sugar addicted state. I'm not the healthiest eater by some standards, pretty much eat what I want.
But I never eat huge quantities of anything.

Also eat way more beans and rice than I did when younger. If a diet tells you those things aren't solid sustenance, I say it's BS.

Carnivore will definitely work in keeping you thinner, but it's almost certainly a function of the reduced carbs. And it's a crazy expensive way to eat unless you're sourcing your meat directly. There's a reason Asian and Latin cultures center beans and rice in their diets and use meat sparingly.
 
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And definitely don’t go from zero to 100. 💩
I do pretty good throughout the week when I can do some meal prep. Don’t prep it all but prep enough to give me 500 to 600 healthy calories a day

mix in a healthy choice power bowl
A ham turkey cheese sandwich on lower carb and lower calorie bread
Couple of eggs and couple of bacon a day

Then I drink beer on the weekends and start over on Monday 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
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Just do OMAD two - four days/week. That's all you need. I take Psyllium Husks every night after dinner but that just keeps me cleaned out.

For the one meal, I eat as much as I can, I often tap out before finishing eating what I want due to feeling full.
 

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I've yo yo'd my whole life except the last 5 years. Finally got it figured out.

Screw diet plans. Just keep reasonably healthy stuff around and keep yourself out of any kind of sugar addicted state. I'm not the healthiest eater by some standards, pretty much eat what I want.
But I never eat huge quantities of anything.

Also eat way more beans and rice than I did when younger. If a diet tells you those things aren't solid sustenance, I say it's BS.

Carnivore will definitely work in keeping you thinner, but it's almost certainly a function of the reduced carbs. And it's a crazy expensive way to eat unless you're sourcing your meat directly. There's a reason Asian and Latin cultures center beans and rice in their diets and use meat sparingly.
It can get expensive but I’ve leaned how to find meat reduced. One way is if I’m in the store on Monday and they have a ton of New York Strip that goes out of date on Wednesday then I’ll swing by early Wednesday morning and they will be there reduced. Early morning weekdays is the best time to find it, they just don’t sell as many groceries during the week and usually some sort of meat will be reduced. A deep freeze is a must, I’ve got a small fortune of discounted meat in mine.
 
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Are these people gearing up for massive heart attacks?
I love your concern for all them. Noble cause.

fwiw, I’ve lost at least 35lbs doing mostly carnivore. I’m more ketovore now. I did it in solidarity with my wife, who has a form of RA. I’d been trying to get her to try it for a long time. I mean, I’d try anything if I was giving up on life, wouldn’t you?
She finally did, when a former mentor mentioned it.
It has completely changed her life, like none of the really serious treatments ever did.
The main advantage IMO…go hardcore elimination to start. See how that goes. Start adding a few things singularly. See how that affects you. If you try eliminating 1 thing at a time it’s much harder.
I will say this. Sugar, carbs, nightshades are prime culprits. Seed oils probably next.
 
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It can get expensive but I’ve leaned how to find meat reduced. One way is if I’m in the store on Monday and they have a ton of New York Strip that goes out of date on Wednesday then I’ll swing by early Wednesday morning and they will be there reduced. Early morning weekdays is the best time to find it, they just don’t sell as many groceries during the week and usually some sort of meat will be reduced. A deep freeze is a must, I’ve got a small fortune of discounted meat in mine.

Yeah, that's smart. I eat out of the freezer a lot. I'll usually grab whatever meat is a good deal week to week and freeze it if I'm not ready to eat it. There's always some kind of meat bargain around.
 
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It’s actually excellent.

I’m curious why @OG Goat Holder is so concerned?
What’s your stats baw? How big a baw are you?
What level of douche are you?

I simply thought I’d seen it all with diets already, now we have clowns guzzling steaks, eggs, butter and oil. Going against hundreds of years of science.
 

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No, but weight matters a LOT.
Of course, but honestly, I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone doing strict carnivore just to lose weight. Maybe some morbidly obese. I think most go to the extreme, when they have serious health issues that they cannot fix with drugs and have given up. Weight loss is just one of the components.
It’s extremely difficult to adhere to on a number of fronts. Extremely. But I can be life saving.
 

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Most of these diets go against science and many of the them are promoted by grifters trying to make a buck.
How are these grifters making a buck? lol? You don’t have to pay anyone a dime to change your diet.
why do you and @OG Goat Holder even care? Im sure it’s a bored troll game, but, 100’s of years of science? Really? If you believe the food pushed on Americans today is equal to what it was even 40 years ago you’re blind.
Go take your Covid Boosters and Ozempic jabs…science fans as you are.
 

OG Goat Holder

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How are these grifters making a buck? lol? You don’t have to pay anyone a dime to change your diet.
why do you and @OG Goat Holder even care?
Go take your Covid Boosters and Ozempic jabs…science fans as you are.
I’m not sure why you’re so mad or concerned. I simply asked a question. I guess I hit a nerve? Didn’t mean to.

Carnivore diet is literally everywhere now. All over social media.
 

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I did Atkins hardcore years ago. Lost a ton of weight. I looked good and felt good. I lost all interest in eating anything and I like food. I was miserable, I didn’t like eating out with friends. I hated ordering food i knew that I couldn’t eat yet I was going to pay for. I missed drinking casually. As soon as you quit a diet like this you add it back on plus some. I just decided that I’d enjoy my life and accept being 25 pounds overweight but I admire the fortitude of people who can stick with it. It just wasn’t for me.
 

DesotoCountyDawg

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How are these grifters making a buck? lol? You don’t have to pay anyone a dime to change your diet.
why do you and @OG Goat Holder even care? Im sure it’s a bored troll game, but, 100’s of years of science? Really? If you believe the food pushed on Americans today is equal to what it was even 40 years ago you’re blind.
Go take your Covid Boosters and Ozempic jabs…science fans as you are.
I apologize. I didn’t mean to twist your panties so hard.
 

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I do pretty good throughout the week when I can do some meal prep. Don’t prep it all but prep enough to give me 500 to 600 healthy calories a day

mix in a healthy choice power bowl
A ham turkey cheese sandwich on lower carb and lower calorie bread
Couple of eggs and couple of bacon a day

Then I drink beer on the weekends and start over on Monday 🤦🏼‍♂️
Sounds very similar to my diet. It’s amazing how disciplined I can be for the majority of a week and then how bad I can be for a couple.
 

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The science about saturated fat and heart disease has been proven wrong but the medical community keeps it going. I don’t want write a book but if you are interested look into the science behind the Ancel Keys study which is where our misunderstanding of saturated fat started. Second a calorie is not a calorie. Fats and carbs are energy. Protein is a building block. The body will metabolize or store calories based on its ability to store them. There can only be so much glucose (carbs) in the body at one time so it must metabolize carbs before fats and protein. So if consumed together the body breaks down the carbs and stores everything else as fat. And finally hormones matter and their response is not the same to all macros. Carbs are the only macro that creates a significant insulin response which tells the body to store energy.
 

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The science about saturated fat and heart disease has been proven wrong but the medical community keeps it going. I don’t want write a book but if you are interested look into the science behind the Ancel Keys study which is where our misunderstanding of saturated fat started. Second a calorie is not a calorie. Fats and carbs are energy. Protein is a building block. The body will metabolize or store calories based on its ability to store them. There can only be so much glucose (carbs) in the body at one time so it must metabolize carbs before fats and protein. So if consumed together the body breaks down the carbs and stores everything else as fat. And finally hormones matter and their response is not the same to all macros. Carbs are the only macro that creates a significant insulin response which tells the body to store energy.

If you go down the Ancel Keys study rabbit hole, you might get to the point I am. Which is I don't trust much of anything that has any kind information arrived at thru any government funding. In other words, most everything.

The amount of complete BS that just became common health advice for decades is stupifying. It honestly makes me angry.

Which means I don't trust much of anything without doing my own deep dive.
 

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The science about saturated fat and heart disease has been proven wrong but the medical community keeps it going. I don’t want write a book but if you are interested look into the science behind the Ancel Keys study which is where our misunderstanding of saturated fat started. Second a calorie is not a calorie. Fats and carbs are energy. Protein is a building block. The body will metabolize or store calories based on its ability to store them. There can only be so much glucose (carbs) in the body at one time so it must metabolize carbs before fats and protein. So if consumed together the body breaks down the carbs and stores everything else as fat. And finally hormones matter and their response is not the same to all macros. Carbs are the only macro that creates a significant insulin response which tells the body to store energy.
I think we all agree on refined carbs. They essentially act like sugar in the body, with a slightly lower GI rating.

What I push back on is the unlimited intake of saturated fats. Calories are still calories, and any fat packs a lot of them. Plus excess saturated fat does indeed lead to heart disease.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Is that the same "science" that mass vaccinated for a flu like virus that crept on the world stage unceremoniously without being tested thoroughly?
Uhh, yeah, kinda. I have no desire to revive COVID threads of 4 years ago but vaccines in general have been helpful to mankind.

But hey let's bring back polio because some nimrod today thinks a vaccine gave his snot nose spoiled kid a peanut allergy.
 
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