His wife just posted this on Wahl's substack this morning...
If you want to read the whole thing, you can find it here.
If you want to read the whole thing, you can find it here.
Cause of death for Grant Wahl
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It being natural causes, I'm glad that he went out doing what he loved, covering soccer on the world's biggest soccer stage.
The conspiracy types won't believe it.
This is exactly what they'd say if he were murdered or if the vaccine killed him and they wanted to cover it up. This is just more proof that one or both of the conspiracies is true. **
Have they EVER contributed someone’s death to vaccination status? (Asking for a friend who is NOT trying to connect those dots. That statement just struck him funny.)
I think there have been a handful of cases where the vaccine has contributed to a death. The statement was made because the conspiracy nuts were claiming he died from the vaccine.
Coincidence that they left out his vaccination status? I think not **
There’s people on Twitter trying to say Leachs death was caused by the vaccine.
I know some that attributes every unexpected death of someone 65 and younger to the vaccine. Now, I'm not a triple booster vaccine fan, but people have been dying unexpectedly from unknown underlying issues for thousands of years. These conspiracy types are just as bad as the triple boosters.
There were a couple with the JNJ vaccine and more in Europe with the AZ vaccine. At any rate, the death rate was tiny compared to the covid death rate, even when you looked at the age group of the vaccine deaths versus covid death.
The myocarditis risk from the vaccine is real, but it affects mostly young males, seems to be a 0.02% chance at most in that group, has a lower rate of myocarditis from covid infection, and can be treated with anti-inflammatories. Neither Leach nor Wahl were in this risk group.
People have tragically died from undiagnosed conditions, cancer, heart attacks, etc. since the dawn of mankind. It's not some vaccine or chemtrails causing this.
For the data driven among us, the metric to look at is "excess mortality", this guy has tons of it.
theethicalskeptic.com
and another one:
athlonsports.com
The Ethical Skeptic - Challenging Pseudo-Skepticism, its Agency and Cultivated Ignorance
Ethical skepticism is a pro-science paradigm shift challenging pseudo-skepticism, its agency and cultivated ignorance. Epoché Vanguards Gnosis.
theethicalskeptic.com
and another one:
Former UCF Football Player Dies Suddenly At 25
Former University of Central Florida student and football player Jake Hescock died Tuesday. The former tight end went into cardiac arrest while out on a jog in
athlonsports.com
What is the percentage of people who don't give a ****?
Dang, you've found the David H. Murray of charts and numbers.For the data driven among us, the metric to look at is "excess mortality", this guy has tons of it.
The Ethical Skeptic - Challenging Pseudo-Skepticism, its Agency and Cultivated Ignorance
Ethical skepticism is a pro-science paradigm shift challenging pseudo-skepticism, its agency and cultivated ignorance. Epoché Vanguards Gnosis.
half the people on the rant are saying that. i hate humans sometimes.
Why do you want to lock this thread?
You do know that you are not required to read this thread, right?
Considering that his wife is an infectious disease Dr. and was a member of Biden's Covid advisory team, I think it's a pretty safe bet he was vaccinated.
I was under the impression he was referring to Leach..
two things:For the data driven among us, the metric to look at is "excess mortality", this guy has tons of it.
The Ethical Skeptic - Challenging Pseudo-Skepticism, its Agency and Cultivated Ignorance
Ethical skepticism is a pro-science paradigm shift challenging pseudo-skepticism, its agency and cultivated ignorance. Epoché Vanguards Gnosis.
and another one:
Former UCF Football Player Dies Suddenly At 25
Former University of Central Florida student and football player Jake Hescock died Tuesday. The former tight end went into cardiac arrest while out on a jog in
1) don't know what background this ethical skeptic has but briefly reading some of his stuff, he comes across as someone who thinks they are brilliant but are really just a little kooky. People who have solid data don't have to write heartfelt novels to communicate it. People who are trying to sway opinion based on their own bias tend to go on and on.
2) don't know specifics on the football player, but young people in sports have long been dropping dead from latent, undiagnosed heart ailments. Sometimes you get lucky and get a symptom before there is a major event, sometimes not
I try to keep my opinions about the shots to myself unless I am asked. However, I can't stand the way some people so quickly run to label everyone who questions the covid vaccine as crazy conspiracy theorists. The shots are man made, and mankind has been known to make mistakes when it comes to putting out medicine. If you feel so led, take the shot, but respect others who choose not to.
Sure, it's possible that they could develop a vaccine that kills people or has other significant negative effects. But there's zero evidence that's the case here.
It was said tongue in cheek. Covid vaccines were brought up. Tell me the last time a thread went well after that was done?
The guy doesn't know how to write. A good paper, especially a scientific one, should follow the model below:
First, tell the audience what you're going to tell them.
Second, tell them.
Third, tell them what you just told them.
That diatribe followed none of that.
I don't agree with the zero evidence thing but I do agree with having grace for people who take or don't take it... there are legitimate concerns... I just went and asked my doctor what he recommended and followed that advice... that's what I do with most medical issues/questions and seems like the reasonable thing to do....but to each his own..
Facts are friendly. Look at the epidemiology. There's a huge data set to look at around the world. 5.47 billion people worldwide vaccinated. Most did it for others, not themselves. The weakest of our society at risk is why you get vaccinated. Just a reminder.
when I was watching people die left and right from covid I was up on the mountaintop begging for people to get vaccinated. Now the majority of people are either vaccinated and/or have been exposed. I still recommend my older patients and those with underlying comorbidities get vaccinated as covid can still kill you much the way the flu can, but I am no longer on a mission to get the world vaccinated. Things have changed. For the most part pretty much every medical doctor I know feels the same way. I don’t know anyone that’s trying to force the vaccine down peoples throats at this time.
This is false. There is a reason lots of places are no longer allowing the young and healthy to get it, the risks outweigh the benefit. The people that are claiming every death of somebody young and healthy (and especially the not young and not particularly healthy like leach) is caused by the vaccine are tiresome, but so are the people claiming that we finally found a medical treatment with zero side effects and you have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe there are any.
How's that working out with this particular vaccine? If taking it means that I am doing it to protect others, I would expect some sort of evidence of stopping or at least, slowing down the transmission of covid. I have never seen that evidence and from the latest, it might just be the exact opposite.
We still have a lot of *** holes out there that are extremely bothered by people not doing what they are told. It's ludicrous to require staff that don't see patients and aren't in patient areas to get vaccinated while letting unvaccinated enter CMS facilities at will and the only reason they are doing it is because they are annoyed people didn't bend the knee to begin with.
Look at the epidemiology it's very obvious how much it works. Listen to epidemiologist only. Everyone else is talking out of their @SS with random thoughts and anecdotal musings.
Do you have links to stats? Honestly asking, even though I don't see me ever taking the shot. The only way that I could ever be convinced is that it protects others.
What about MMR for babies? Just if the parent feels led? I mean we have had recent measles outbreaks because of people who don't get basic healthcare. MEASLES. Been able to avoid that since the early 60's until now...
Slight difference between shots that have been around for decades and actually stop the spread versus new ones that don't. If the vaccine actually stopped the spread of covid, there would have been an argument to force people to take it. Still would have been touchy because of the potential for unknown side effects, but a reasonable discussion to be had. But it's nowhere near reasonable as is. There's a better argument for mandating the flu shot annually.
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