Chadwell at Liberty
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And he walked into a talented Hugh Freeze team. He issue is no Power 5 experience or coaches on his staff with Power 5 experience. I don't know about his current staff, but that was his issue at Coastal.
Look at his record at Coastal, you have to discount his first season. He is a winner as a head coach even with limited resources.
Hiring a position coach as a P5 head coach over him was a head scratcher.
He is a first rate head ball coach, and he's an upstanding gentleman.
His offensive system is top notch.
His offensive system is top notch.
Recruiting at his level versus SEC talent is not the same. He doesn't have the Recruiting connections and a P5 position coach does. Chadwell has proven he is a successful Group of 5 coach. That is not the same as a successful P5 coach. Don't you think it's odd that he interviews for P5 jobs but doesn't get one.
And Chadwell is coaching for my other school (Liberty), so I'm not against him.
Hiring a recruiter does not mean they can develop the players and retain them instead of watching them leave for the portal..
My wife is a Liberty graduate. Chadwell is a great fit at LU. I hope he stays a long time. Yet, if Beamer fails to get it done, I'd love to see Chadwell in Columbia. I hope both coaches are wildly successful where they are.
Chadwell needs a kicker! I'd also like to see better defense.
Tanner publicly thanked the staffing agency that gave him the idea of hiring Beamer. A coach literally underneath his nose. I have zero confidence that speaking to Chadwell ever crossed his mind. This program will always be mired in theft and mediocrity amongst men win no vision. Tanner said it himself he isn't a football guy. He hasn't been running what he's good at either. We need a flush up top. Strating with the Board of Trustee's.
G5 to P5 happens all the time but there is some connection to the P5 either personal experience or through his staff. Chadwell has neither. I'm an alumni of Liberty as well and I'm glad he is here. The explanation I've provided is why all of the other P5 schools he has interviewed came to the same conclusion that Tanner did. I think it will happen to him eventually, but don't think Tanner arrived at some unfounded conclusion. Maybe he doesn't interview well compared to others. Maybe he can't provide the vision the P5's are looking for. I don't know, but there is a reason he has been turned down for every P5 school he has interviewed for.
Our qbs are leaving, our rbs are leaving, our kickers are leaving. Ten players in the portal is not a good indicator for selection criteria
All I can say about Chadwell is that he has won big at 4 different schools. As the adage goes, one time can be luck, two times a coincidence, and three times makes a trend, And he has done it four times. At some point, you just have to get rid of the excuses and admit that the guy knows more than a thing or two about coaching. He is VERY good at it. And really, is anyone willing to bet if Hugh Freeze, of all people, went from Liberty to a P5 Head Coaching job, that a P5 Head Coaching job won't be Chadwell's next stop?
the players are not the "dumb" ones. It is not a good outlook if some of your best players are going somewhere else.
Technically none are in it yet, as, I believe it officially opens Monday, 12/4. But, #3 is well documented, and rumors and posts indicate that Tonka, Nick E, and Mitch Jeter are distinct possibilities. I’d say those are some of our best players.
Just remember the team in the upstate hired a salesman and now look at the championships they have won ...
That boy leaving James Madison to go to Indiana is in for a rude awakening. His ceiling is going to be about at he level of Kentucky. He's also 60 years old. He's a great coach but this transition chews up and spits out way more people than it digests.
Hard to take anything from his year at Liberty. He went down in conferences (Conf USA is probably the worst in the FBS) and is coaching a team with Power 5 resources - so he get to compete with a very uneven playing field.
I wonder why every months somebody starts a Chadwell thread, as if it hasn’t been discussed ad nauseam.
My search was extremely brief, admittedly. But I saw where they were 8-5 last year. So hw did show some immediate and significant improvement.
Edit: Liberty was apparently 8-5 the year before as well.
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We all know how this goes. Whoever leaves in the portal was either not needed, or a bad attitude that needed to be gotten rid of to clean up the locker room.
Anyone we pick up was absolutely needed by the other team, and not a bad attitude at all.
We are college football fans. The script has been written for us.
Yes..... I do wonder about that. I like guys who are on the innovative offensive edge in this super pro-offensive football world we live in. Any advantage you can get you had better take. I am sure people will continue to come up with 100 excuses why he wins big everywhere he goes. Instead of all that BS....Maybe it's because he's a big coaching talent?
It's not. It's a post pointing out what many pointed out when SB was hired...and all the anti-Chadwell-ites out there seem to have made it their second job to talk him down. It's weird. Numbers and facts are what they are. I love the excuse "nobody else hired him!....must be something to it!"
Yeah - here is what that's about: Most Board of Regents, Trustees, ADs and others in charge of making decisions end up making what they think is the SAFE decision...and not a GREAT decision. SB brings a lot of good stuff to Carolina. But, missing on Chadell makes me feel like we missed on an U. Meyer trajectory type guy. But given our football hiring and program history.....I guess we made the normal decision.
Does that mean that no one who is either from South Carolina and/or coached at another school in South Carolina will ever be good enough for South Carolina? And someone who was fired at an SEC school or has never been a head coach anywhere is fine?
Excellent, excellent observation.
We are all for Beamer. I suspect he will get into the 2025 season, which I believe will be "make or break" for him. If it breaks, I hope the first call we make is to Chadwell. Not only is his team undefeated but, they have the 3rd ranked offense in the nation. Today's college football seems to favor the more offensive-minded teams.
If USC or Clemson played the 135th rated schedule we'd be undefeated too. Not saying he can't coach. I'm saying Liberty played a clown schedule.
My only answer to that us that he plays lesser competition, but he us also playing lesser talent than he would at a P5 school.
I'm 73. He's a boy, unless he's black. I'm the soul of sensitivity.
Agree. Especially with the compliment.
Seriously, I wonder if he will be around long. His team my be in a new years six bowl, which could be a huge commercial for his services.
Liberty played a weaker schedule this year. The other years they played at least one P5 school. This year they played zero P5 schools.
Lurker responded to that just above. Everywhere (4 different schools) that Chadwell has won big at, he took players and dominated similar talented teams.
The Chadwell train has left the station, imho. Beamer will get 2024 and 2025 to prove that he is more than a nepotism Head Coach. If Beamer fails, I doubt Chadwell will still be available. Though he might be (Freeze stuck around 4 seasons at Liberty). It's hard to KNOW such things.
Here is what I feel comfortable in saying without any doubt: Jamey Chadwell is a much, much better Head Coach than Shane Beamer. It's not close, imho. He will become a Head Coach at a P5 school and win big there, too. And when he does, those of us who wanted him to become Head Coach at Carolina will have the self-satisfaction of knowing that we had the Carolina Head Football Coach picked who could have made South Carolina a big winner for years and years to come. Those who have been down on him for whatever reason, will have to live with the "What if".