Some news on separating parking contributions from ticket contributions. I guess a hundred thousand beer sales per game only gets you so far.
Check your emails for NLC ticket and parking info for 2023
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Since parking has been cut loose from game tickets as it relates to the NLC contribution, it seems many who have been grandfathered into their parking locations will no longer be afforded that privilege. It sucks but that includes me. On the bright side, parking prices have been reduced but the overall cost to attend will increase. It'll be interesting to see how it affects the number of reserved spaces which often sit empty for most games.
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Funny, I just read this post and received a phone call from the NLC just now at my office as I have multiple tix and parking passes. They are trying to soften the blow obviously with a personal phone call. Reserved passes will now be $1000. But they did tell me my ticket costs were going to be lowered. I have 4 seats in ED. So, all reserved parking passes will be $1000 now.
I just read my email and the required seat donation for our seats in EF Row P went down by $100 per seat to $600. There have been a number of empty seats in EF with some of the empty seats being filled by recruiting visitors.
Interesting move by the Athletic department. Also, there were a number of empty spots in our reserved lot 41 this year. Looks like they are trying to sell more reserved parking spaces.
Interesting move by the Athletic department. Also, there were a number of empty spots in our reserved lot 41 this year. Looks like they are trying to sell more reserved parking spaces.
I think you're right about the parking. If it's independent of the NLC donation to get "X" number of game tickets, someone could seemingly buy as many parking spaces as they need without a limit imposed by their NLC donation. And since parking is independent of the base NLC donation, many unused spaces could be given up by people who never use them.
Apparently so, I just talked to someone and your seat donation is refelctive to number of seats and location and your parking donation will be the same..but I imagine -- i forgot to ask-- parking spaces will also follow points so those with the most points will have first dibs on parking during the parking selction process if you want to buy parking regardless of your ticket level donation. If you already have say two spots like I do just continue to donate at the new level for those two spots and you will retain your current spots/passes
I got a phone call too. I think, but not 100% certain based on that hurried conversation, that to maintain parking in 41, you still need to have given a minimum of $2500 to NLC. That counts toward tickets. Anyone else reading it that way or can clarify?
But, hitting that threshold merely gives one the opportunity to then give $1000 per spot for the right to buy season reserved preferred parking. So, a seat license at now $600 per seat (down from $700), and a parking license at $1000 per space, up from $0 additional in my case.
In my case, $2800 plus tix plus parking is now $3500 plus tix plus parking. 25% bump.
Per ticket and per parking spot prices will hold for the next 2 seasons.
Hockey will now require an annual $50 per seat license as well, regardless of NLC contribution level.
And, please give to the NILs too.
If we upped our parking spot to reserved, it amounts to $142.85 /game. No matter how they frame it, it is a cash grab. They’ll try to have you forget about it by buying and drinking $12 Coors Lites. They also need to dump all chair back seat cushions as they suck. If that stays the same they go bye bye for us and we bring on our own cushions.
Not first school to do it, just catching up to what is becoming the norm.
I don’t like it, but I also don’t blame them.
So glad we only need a small space for our golf cart. We tailgate at our house and drive the 2 miles up an hour prior to kick. Simply buying a general parking pass anymore. Might even give that up, our neighbor said he would drive us up to the stadium and pick us up after.
I will call my athletic department contact tomorrow @Bob78. I read the email two different ways.
Thanks,
Dave
@rudedude
That is what I contribute...$2500 contribution for parking,
plus the price of tickets, H.C. seats...$900+/-
plus the price of parking passes...$130 I believe
plus shipping & handling $20...
it costs me $500+ per home game to get into the stadium, and i haven't been at a game since 2019!
especially as the country heads into a recession.
The reason I was given is two-fold, fwiw:Asking respectfully. ….. why do you do this?
It is to drive up revenue. They indicated it would be a net gain of - iirc - $750K? Some people will pay less, others more, as I will need to to maintain what I have. I also believe that by decreasing the contribution level needed for certain sections, it could entice more people to up their giving for a chance at seats in a section they would like to move to. The new thresholds will be in place for two years, I believe, and then after that will rise. (An aside: I was fully prepared to need to pay more for both my seat license and for game tickets, but this increase ends up being more than I anticipated for those increases. My seats are $700 each now, and my tickets average $75 each, and I was figuring on anywhere from $750 each to $850 each, and from $85 to $90 each on the tickets, just for 2023. And with more to come after that).
Also, by uncoupling the parking, a person has the oppty to claim donation that on their taxes, where the NLCfees do not count as you get something of value in return. I do not know how that works given the definition of what qualifies and what does not, or if it will actually help many people given the new higher thresholds for allowances on taxes.
I could be wrong on this, but this is what was mentioned to us either in the email received or during the phone call.
The $1000 parking space license per space is overkill, imo. At $140 per season now - $20 each game - with the 'license' part included in the NLC contribution, it was a bargain. Bump that by 2x to $40 per game, and I'm still ok. $50 a game? I get it. Couple that with an increase per seat for NLC, especially if a planned increase for the next X years, and I wonder how close the revenue bump would be to the net net they are anticipating now? A buddy of mine who is connected to the Athletic Dept told me he is hearing mostly negative responses privately, with a number of long-timers planning to opt out. Of course, we all have time to think it over and decide what we want to do, but initial reaction seems to be negative. That may or may not be the result.
So now with a 25% increase here, asking me to contribute significantly to NIL seems to be not as appealing. Maybe they can get athletes to be the patron saints of various parking spaces, so the $1000 a pop gets back into the NIL pockets! I'm parking in the Abdul Carter spot #17! It's near the Drew Allar spot #36! (I know, I know, that's not how the visionaries set it up to work.)
Personally It sounds like they want people to park elsewhere and take shuttle’s to stadium. Glad ad I don’t have to worry about it anymore. Our house is 2mile away. Walking on nice days and/or having our neighbor shuttle us on rainy days sounds great.
This separation of contributions will enhance the value of both tickets and parking passes. Our fans have made clear that the tailgating experience is very meaningful, and this change will enhance the value of every parking pass, while also encouraging our premium tailgating lots to be full of our Penn State faithful.
Since the tailgating experience is very meaningful to us, they're going to jack up the price because having fun isn't allowed to be cheap. Maybe it would have been better if everyone lied on the survey and said we hate tailgating.
Since the tailgating experience is very meaningful to us, they're going to jack up the price because having fun isn't allowed to be cheap. Maybe it would have been better if everyone lied on the survey and said we hate tailgating.
For myself, the grandkids and their friends.Asking respectfully. ….. why do you do this?
They have been filling in for my wife and me for the past two seasons. The kids will eventually pay for the current reserved parking stall when I can no longer go to the games, l would like to transfer my seats to them, maybe rules will change in the near future to make this possible. My seats are H.C. chairs, 43 yd line, next to the team, 5-foot wide walkway so I can walk along the EE section when my back and legs starts to seize, the recruits and family are next to me (behind), the seats to my left are for players family.
Parking is first row along Curtin Rd where the team enters the tunnel.
John Gilmore T.E. from the 02' team is to my right.
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Good point.
Imo, they need to appeal to the younger fans to maintain NLC contribution levels and overall game day revenue in years to come, and to foster that relationship now. Parking is a part of that, but $1000 per space is crazy, imo.
I have maintained that NLC and NIL need to coexist peacefully and as complements to each other. My gut reaction is that the $1000 works against that, so maybe they don't see that the way I do. Younger fans are all in behind NIL, older fans still understand the value of the NLC and will think about contributing there first, at least for now. But just as we need older fans to join in the NIL effort (kicking and screaming as I do), we need younger fans to join the NLC, to want to pay for the premium seating, to want to fill the lots on game day. And maybe they are - I don't know the demographic breakdowns. It just does not seem to be that case just by my isolated viewpoint in Lot 41 and section EF.
There are plenty of unused parking spots near me on game days. I don't see how the $1000 will help fill those. The secondary market for parking passes will be interesting. It is one thing to recoup the $20 or the $140 and make a little lunch money on top of it, but to recoup the $1000 will be a challenge! A parking pass is basically $165 per spot per game now. Ouch.
ok, thanks. Thought I read or heard that, but glad you cleared that up.
Have you heard why they went to such a large price tag on a yearly parking 'license'? Seems to me that could backfire, but I don't have any data to support that.
That particular problem - which has been obvious for years - was Barbour's doing, of course (not the current leadership)
If this most recent move was intended, in any way, to address that problem? IDK, I just honestly couldn't say what the intent(s) were. IF that was the intent (or one of the intents) I doubt that this action will have any meaningful positive impact, but time will tell.
In the meantime, unwinding all of the damage done under Barbour will not be a simple task. That much is certain.
I have not. I first heard of it at the same time that you did.
I would LIKE to think that part of the thought process was to deal with the issue you raised earlier (all of the vacant parking spaces)..... but that is PURELY conjecture/pondering on my part, as I have heard no discussion vav the rationale for the move. (But that issue - large swaths of vacant parking spots, even when "John Doe" fans are being told that parking spaces are not available, or to "Park at the Grange Fair" - was a Barbour-created cluster, that can hopefully be addressed to at least some degree)
It could have simply been a revenue grab labelled as a "premium fan experience" - The hallmarks of Barbour's tenure. Let's hope not. I think we are now "better than that".
I'm in Lot 15 and as in Lot 41, there are plenty of unused reserved spaces five or six games every year. I've often wondered what it would take to see them filled more often than not. Maybe this new plan will accomplish that. I have no idea. It may cause some to drop reserved parking because the extra $1,000 isn't worth it. OTOH, there may be people who would like to be in a reserved lot but don't want to pony up $2,500. Maybe $1,000 would be an easier pill to swallow. Apparently ICA feels the latter is more true.
I'm still unsure if you need to donate a minimum of $2500 to be eligible to get reserved parking. I think so, which means it is a $3500 tab to get the first reserved spot. Then $1000 for each after that as well. But, I could be misunderstanding that.
I received my courtesy call this morning. It's my understanding none of the prior NLC threshold giving amounts exist. The number of tickets purchased, their location, and the parking together all determine the NLC donation amount required. Linked below is the 2022 donation chart and corresponding benefits. I have absolutely no idea what an updated 2023 chart will look like.
2022 NLC
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So if we keep our current seats in EHU, donation for NLC stays the same and if we keep parking in 34, there is no extra charge for parking.
Thanks for posting this. Was this in the email or did you hear it from the NLC? It (having any NLC contributuon count towards hockey tickets) was a good run while it lasted, lol.
I think, if I am reading correctly, my football donation decreases by $100 (6 in south endzone and preferred parking... been paying $1k.... if that was too much, maybe I made a decision to keep it there years ago lol... now $900 I think). Hockey will now be an extra $200 (up from $0 since football covered it). So, net increase of $100 between the two. On rhe whole, not horrible. But add in NIL $$$ for both as well, so actually a bit more than that lol.
I was told today that our $2500 donation (Two seats in section EF) will still get us a reserved spot in Lot 41.
I was also told by the Athletic Department and my Athletic Department contact that this will hold true through the 2024 season. I expect that the seat license fee to sit in the Black Zone will go back up.
In your case it seems you could get the same thing for $2,200. $600 for each seat plus $1,000 for the reserved spot. The folks with a lot of tickets are the ones who could see a big increase depending on where their seats are. If someone had four seats in EF and reserved parking, it would require an NLC donation of $3,400. At least that's how it reads to me. If someone loves their parking, buys a lot of season tickets, and doesn't want a huge donation increase, they'd likely drop some tickets to reduce the financial bite.
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