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THIS IS WHAT SUCKS ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Y'all complain about NIL and transfer portal and disloyalty of players, but the ability for the few Big Boys to be able to steal a coach who was undefeated at another major university and on the doorstep of a national championship is absolute horse manure.
Washington is us. We, meaning all tier 2 teams, gives a guy like that the opportunity and obviously give him the chance for success. He realizes that success and we don't become a Big Boy because he then <17>n' leaves. Why bother if you have no chance and are just feeding the behemoths?
There is no buyout that is worth not having the fair chance to elevate your program.
Washington is us. We, meaning all tier 2 teams, gives a guy like that the opportunity and obviously give him the chance for success. He realizes that success and we don't become a Big Boy because he then <17>n' leaves. Why bother if you have no chance and are just feeding the behemoths?
There is no buyout that is worth not having the fair chance to elevate your program.
Not saying he isn't a great coach, but it looks like he inherited a very good Fresno State program that Jeff Tedford had built up. Then at UW he got a team that Chris Petersen had turned around into a 2-time Pac-12 champion.
Chris Petersen turned UW around. He won or tied for the Pac-12 North in 2016, 2017 & 2018, winning 12, 10 & 10 games regular season. Lost some, starters in 2019 so took a small step back, after which he decided to retire from coaching.
2020 Covid season under their former DC saw them win their Division again, but unable to play in the Pac-12 CG due to not enough players because of Covid. Under same coach 2021 became less than stellar as that coach got in trouble for shoving a player on the sideline...something he got fired for at the end of that season.
So it does look likely that DeBoer inherited a very good program that had a 1-year problem with a messed up HC.
Right. You'll win, but are you going to win the 11-12 games you'll need to get into the playoff?
Your non-conference is nothing, but in-conference, you have Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Mizzou, Oklahoma, and Auburn.
Why is he a fit? He's literally been an FBS head coach for 4 seasons and in the Power 5 for 2. Yes, he helped turn Washington around, but where has he maintained success? 20 years ago in NAIA? Please.
I think he's a hot name right now because of the past 2 seasons, but he made it into the most suspect CFP field since its inception by skating through single digit wins over a weak schedule (though not as weak as FSU's).
I'm not debating that he's a "pretty damn good" coach. Clearly he is, but two "pretty damn good" seasons in the Pac-12 doesn't equate to what they'll be expecting at Alabama. I'll take "pretty damn good" as a semi-regular Alabama opponent all day every day, but he won't be there long enough to really impact Mississippi State outside 1 or 2 seasons.
Where is the sustained success? Where has he shown that he can build and maintain a program? Washington fans were all excited to make it into the CFP championship. Bama fans expect it.
I think some of y'all are looking at two good seasons in a conference that may not exist in 12 months and thinking "oh, well, what can he do with better talent?" and that makes sense, but there's no evidence he's not just a 'quick fix' guy. I could be wrong. We'll see.
Doubt it. Honestly, I think they have a better chance of ending the regular season 9-3 in 3 years than winning a national championship. I think this is good news for the rest of the conference.
You mean Sioux Falls in the NAIA? That was 15-19 years ago.... in, again, the NAIA.
Agreed. It was a pretty big deal when he transferred in the National sports media.
Don't have to win 11-12 games to get in the playoffs any more. There is going to be a least one 9-3 team make regularly.
Jalen Hurts was #2 in the NFL MVP voting last season and damn near out dueled Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
Saying a kid who has never even taken an NFL snap (and will not even be a Top 10 pick) is better is a massive reach.
Is 104-12 in his career. Let that sink in. I don't care what league it is, he's a proven winner. That song is for him.
The only “sustained success” guy they could get would be Dabo…..who nobody in Tuscaloosa wants. There’s not that guy out there in college football right now besides Kirby and Harbaugh, who aren’t leaving their alma maters where they already won NC’s in order to jump into the Bama job. Norvell has had no more “sustained success” than DeBoer. Neither has Lanning. Neither has Sarkisian. All those guys have essentially peaked in the past 2 seasons.
Who else should they have gone after? Ryan Day….who has already proven to be a playoff choke artist? James Franklin, who has yet to elevate Penn State into CFP contention? Venables, who also has no track record before this year? Lincoln Riley, who tanked badly this season?
I think they landed the best guy on the market personally.
Well they were 8/5 3/2 and 4/8 the 3 seasons before BeBoer and immediately he got them winning. So that 3 off years. Doesn't sound turned around to me
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Incorrect. 2019. 8-5. with 4 of the 5 losses by one score. That was also a transition year for them, having to replace several starters. 8-5 in that situation is pretty damned good. 2020 was 3-1 due to Covid. They were Division Champs, but could not play in the Pac-12 CG due to not being able to field the minimum players. 2022 was a rough year at 4-8, but even then they lost 5 games by 1 score. Granted, one of those was a bad loss to a lesser program, but it was also the year they suspended, then fired the HC for shoving a player on-the-field. Lost their last 3 games after that. That was the one bad year, and it was the first & only full season for that HC. I think we can give them a pass on that season.
2018 they were 10-4 Pac-12 Champs, with a 5-point loss to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.
2017 they were 10-3 with a 7 point loss to Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl. Other 2 losses were by 6 points at ASU & 8 points at Stanford.
2016 they were 12-2 Pac-12 Champs with a 17-point loss to Bama in the Peach Bowl.
In the 6 years prior to Chris Petersen they were a combined 34-38. By his 3rd year as HC they won the Pac-12. His 4th they lost their division and the chance to play in another Pac-12 CG due to a tie-breaker. His 5th they won the Pac-12 again. So, yeah, I'd say Chris Petersen rebuilt that program. The next HC came in and had one bad year...the year he was suspended and ultimately fired. That one bad year did not leave the program in shambles for DeBoer.
Chris Petersen era (2014–2019)
Washington hired Chris Petersen as head football coach on December 6, 2013. Petersen previously spent eight seasons as the head coach at Boise State.
In his third year Petersen led Washington to a Pac-12 title and the program's first College Football Playoff appearance, the 2016 Peach Bowl. On April 11, 2017, the Washington Huskies Athletic Department extended Petersen's coaching contract through 2023, with a reported annual salary of $4.875 million, paid entirely from Washington Athletic Department revenue, such as ticket sales and television rights or gifts.
Washington finished the 2017 season with an invitation to participate in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl. In the 2018 season, Petersen led the Huskies to their second Pac-12 title in three years and Washington's 15th Rose Bowl appearance. On December 2, 2019, Petersen announced he would step down as head coach and move into an advisory role.
Jimmy Lake era (2020–2021)
Defensive coordinator Jimmy Lake was named Petersen's successor following his departure. He coached the team to a 3-1 record and a Pac-12 North division title during the COVID-19 shortened 2020 season. The team was unable to play in the 2020 Pac-12 Football Championship Game due to numerous COVID-related absences.
During the 2021 season, Lake was suspended without pay for shoving a Washington player during a loss to Oregon. Lake was later fired, finishing his tenure with a 7-6 record. Defensive coordinator Bob Gregory served as interim coach for the final three games of the season.
Kalen DeBoer era (2022–2024)
Washington hired Kalen DeBoer as head football coach on November 29, 2021. DeBoer spent the previous two seasons as head coach at Fresno State. DeBoer posted an 11-2 record in his first season at Washington, defeating Texas in the 2022 Alamo Bowl 27-20. In his second season with the team, DeBoer led the Huskies to a 14-1 record, winning the final Pac-12 conference championship against Oregon, and winning the Sugar Bowl against the Texas Longhorns in the 2024 College Football Playoff. The Huskies appeared in the 2024 National Championship game, losing to Michigan 34-13.
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All that is right there on the internet buddy. That record is straight off the website so it is correct. I understand your opinion tho. It's amazing to me all the people crapping on them for hiring the coach that led his team to the NC game.
Sorry, you are correct. He won it in his second full season as head coach, just like Deboer took the Huskies to the championship in his second full season. So it kind of proves my point even more. Where's the sustained success at one program?
Actually the only guy with less DI experience than Deboer (4 seasons at 2 DI schools) on your list is Lanning (2 seasons at 1 school).
Mike Norvell coached 4 seasons at Memphis and now 4 seasons at Florida Sate (8 total DI seasons). Not to mention his 4 seasons at Memphis were better than Deboer's at Fresno State and his last two at Florida State have been just as good as Deboer's at Washington. His 8 years coaching have all been winners except the first 2 years at Florida St.
Sarkisian coached 5 years at Washington, 1.5 years at USC, and now 3 years at Texas (9.5 total DI seasons). He's also got a winning record in all but 2 of those seasons (the first year at Washington and Texas) which shows he's built winning teams and sustained that success.
The guy you also conveniently left off your list is Lane Kiffin. Not sure how you made a list of top candidates and didn't add him. He has coached 1 year at Tennessee, 3.5 seasons at USC, 3 seasons at Florida Atlantic, and 4 seasons at Ole Miss (12 total DI seasons). Out of those 12 seasons he's had a losing record once (his second year at Florida Atlantic).
Everyone knows Dabo and Franklin's track records and I didn't read Ryan Day, Venables, or Riley in consideration anywhere so there's no point discussing them as it didn't appear anyone thought they were candidates. But to say that Deboer has just as much sustained success as Norvell, Sarkisian, or Kiffin is flat out wrong. And I'd argue that he was the best guy on the "market" is also probably wrong. He's one of the hottest names but the only thing his track record can tell you is that he should give you two good years because that's all he's done.
The only 9-3 teams regularly making it are going to be the odd 5th/6th ranked conference champion. Having 6-7 at large teams doesn’t open up the CFP as much as some folks think.
The vast majority of at large teams are going to have 11+ wins.
He will never have the same success at his new position as he would if he were as brilliant as the coaches on this board. I don't know if there's any coach who is as intelligent as the guys who hang around here.
"Best guy on the market" is debatable, but let's assume you're right and he is the best available guy on the market. That's not really what I said is it? I said I don't think he's going to be a good fit at Alabama.
I just don't think that offense is going to work in the SEC and I think he's going to struggle with the physicality of the SEC compared to the Pac-12, Mountain West, or NAIA. If he stayed at Washington, they would have struggled in the Big Ten, too.
I could be wrong, but I think this is good for the rest of the SEC.
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I agree with this…Kiffin was the lower risk choice, he has proven that he can win in this conference. They could have taken Twitter away from him and easily handled some of his antics. Mississippi have really lucked up on him, good offensive mind who should warrant other jobs but too childish to get a real look. Looking like if we want Kiffin gone then we are going to have to take care of that ourselves by beating him and get him fired.
Mine is off the UW website and others. UW claims exactly what I did. I'm definitely not one of those crapping on Bama's decision. As I've said, he could be a great coach. The truth is, he will be stepping into a situation as good or better than he did at Fresno State and UW. So, he doesn't need to have a proven record of rebuilding a struggling program. He has shown he can achieve great results when he takes over one already rebuilt by others.
Not all coaches can do that, and few can take/keep a program to the top without skipping a beat. Clearly competition will be much tougher, but if he maintains the recruiting level Bama has become accustomed to under Saban I wouldn't bet against them.
Time will tell.
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