Clarion Open..
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Van Ness majors Jeffrey Boyd 10-2 of WVU (former PA AAA state champ). Rode him for over 3 minutes.
Steen goes down. I'm sure it will cause a meltdown with some on the other board, but I've been posting for a month that he needs to make a lot of progress to be our most viable option this year. Not surprised by this.
Which is to be expected. There's only a few kids anywhere that are ready to go out of the box. Not fair to have expectations like he is a top 10 kid. Jefe made a good comparison the other day that is optimistic - Conaway - and if he can follow that arc I'm sure all but a few will be happy. That's a tall order for 99.5% of wrestlers.
Van Ness and Facundo are different level recruits and they are going to have some hiccups. Expectations can be out of hand.
Which is to be expected. There's only a few kids anywhere that are ready to go out of the box. Not fair to have expectations like he is a top 10 kid. Jefe made a good comparison the other day that is optimistic - Conaway - and if he can follow that arc I'm sure all but a few will be happy. That's a tall order for 99.5% of wrestlers.
Van Ness and Facundo are different level recruits and they are going to have some hiccups. Expectations can be out of hand.
Steen got handled 8-3 by Aiden Lewis (Bucknell). Got a reversal, and had a couple possible scoring moves wiped out with blood stoppages. Still, he's gonna need time.
Lewis was a PA state finalist in 2020 but did not get out of 2021 super regionals -- at 113, so he was lighter than Steen last year.
Lewis was a PA state finalist in 2020 but did not get out of 2021 super regionals -- at 113, so he was lighter than Steen last year.
Clarion Open Update 1:20 p.m. Steen 0-1 at 125
Evans 0-0 at 133 (yet to wrestle)
Wang 1-1 at 141 Van Ness 2-0 w/ MD and pin at 149
Facundo 3-0 w/ 2 MDs and a pin at 165
Bordon 1-1 at 165
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Cochran 2-1 at 197
Evans 0-0 at 133 (yet to wrestle)
Wang 1-1 at 141 Van Ness 2-0 w/ MD and pin at 149
Facundo 3-0 w/ 2 MDs and a pin at 165
Bordon 1-1 at 165
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Cochran 2-1 at 197
Evans 1st match at 133 3-2 seemed slow after RBY
Borden 165 cons.16 up 7-1 and gets the pin near the end
Borden 165 cons.16 up 7-1 and gets the pin near the end
Facundo 165 in the quarters quick a bit underpowered against Best of Maryland
1-1 into SV picked him up, couldn't shake and dump, lots of blood time outs in match. Head underneath too much. No score.
Out in 21 seconds. Lost by 13 seconds, Seemed confused by new rules.
1-1 into SV picked him up, couldn't shake and dump, lots of blood time outs in match. Head underneath too much. No score.
Out in 21 seconds. Lost by 13 seconds, Seemed confused by new rules.
Evans 133 in quarters up 6-3 in 3rd with over a minute riding time. Ridden out but avoids tilt, wins 6-3.
Steen 125 in cons #2 16, being ragdolled. 10-1 end of 2nd with tons of riding time. Gets a reversal, loses 14-4.
Steen 125 in cons #2 16, being ragdolled. 10-1 end of 2nd with tons of riding time. Gets a reversal, loses 14-4.
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Steen lost 14-4 to Braxton Brown (MD), a top 30-ish recruit this year -- which means he was considered more or less equivalent to Steen (or maybe a little ahead) coming out of HS. Losing this match isn't terrible, but losing by 10 pts indicates Steen has a lot of work to do.
Missed Wang earlier. Lost 2nd match, finished 2-2, DNP.
Borden in cons 16 #2 Takedown to back for 6, turn for 2, rides out the first. Wins 12-1.
Borden in cons 16 #2 Takedown to back for 6, turn for 2, rides out the first. Wins 12-1.
Steen 0-2 at 125 // DNP
Evans 2-0 at 133
Wang 2-2 at 141 // DNP
Van Ness 2-0 at 149
Borden 2-1 at 165
Facundo 3-1 at 165
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Cochran 4-1 at 197
Evans 2-0 at 133
Wang 2-2 at 141 // DNP
Van Ness 2-0 at 149
Borden 2-1 at 165
Facundo 3-1 at 165
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Cochran 4-1 at 197
SVN looks very aggressive on top, looking to score in a variety of ways. Looks like he MFd out just to be cautious
Evans 3-0 at 133 in the finals Can he drop to 125????
Facundo 4-1 at 165
Borden 5-1 at 165
Cochran 4-1 at 197
Van Ness 2-0 at 149 (ended day w/ 2 MFs, not losses)
Steen 0-2 at 125 // DNP
Wang 1-2 at 141 // DNP
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Facundo 4-1 at 165
Borden 5-1 at 165
Cochran 4-1 at 197
Van Ness 2-0 at 149 (ended day w/ 2 MFs, not losses)
Steen 0-2 at 125 // DNP
Wang 1-2 at 141 // DNP
Kelly 1-2 at 174 // DNP
Evans is 133, and we MAY need him there for a month. Also, we need to temper the enthusiasm. First win 3-2 was over a guy who was 2-19 in his career, his win in semis was over a guy who was something like 1-10 last year.
We have a couple of veteran options at 125 to hold down the fort until second semester. With some good wins in their career. And I wouldn't count out Shunk who is improved.
Or it wouldn't surprise me if they were our 125 and 133 for November. No inside info but interesting that none were at Clarion.
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Got pretty physical at end. Left and right clubs from both. I think Lawrence threw the first club, no back down from young kid
Expectations/Hopes were pretty high for Teske, and he wasn't ready on day one either. Now look at the kid. Good to know that it's still very early for Steen and he may take some lumps if he's called into action. And even if he does, shouldn't be any rush to judgment.
Teammates didn't wrestle. Poor Borden with 3 straight no-contests on the backside.
May be nothing, but seeing SVN take a couple medical forfeits doesn't thrill me.
Adding onto this about Evans: he's a freshman. His best finish in PA was AA 4th, and he was not a national-level recruit. (Only presented as factual. I was very happy that Cael landed him and said so at the time.)
Within that context: Titus was a very good win. Koderhandt was not a bad loss, except for the 10-1 score. Lots to like as long as we don't think of him being true freshman RBY.
Meh. When they pulled him ahead of quarters, the next match worth wrestling would've been in the finals.
The MD loss to Brown looked less concerning the more matches Brown wrestled. After losing in the first round to the eventual champion (Bailey), Brown won by fall - major (Steen) - major - major (Luke Werner) - dec. He didn't wrestle in his last match.
The MD over Werner in particular caught my attention.
Bailey (if not shirting) would be Lehigh's 3rd stringer this year behind Lane and Seymour. I'd agree about the Werner match, except Werner lost to Fischer, so it's kinda hard to contextualize this right now.
I'm taking the long view with Steen -- today is about establishing a baseline, let's see where he goes from here. And hopefully Cael does land Suriano or Hildebrandt, so Steen can shirt instead of trying to qualify out of a brutal B10 tourney (ten returning 125 national qualifiers not including Howard).
A few shots from today. There'll be more at some point.
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I watched his matches, and I watched him before and after. Shayne nor his father ever appeared to be concerned about anything physical before, during, or after any matches.
My guess is, they wanted to hit the road. Who knows, he could have an 8:00am class today. I do not think he withdrew over a physical ailment.
My guess too, especially if Rod was the driver and wanted to get all the way home to north Jersey that night -- over 5 hrs from Clarion.
I admit to not knowing about Evans, but “I am impressed.”
I really think he looked comfortable, confident, and ready if needed. I’m sure the work with RBY has already paid dividends.
Long road to go and tougher competition, but, for a first outing, you have to feel positive about him.
I really think he looked comfortable, confident, and ready if needed. I’m sure the work with RBY has already paid dividends.
Long road to go and tougher competition, but, for a first outing, you have to feel positive about him.
Evans impressed me. Up 7-2 in the 3rd in the semis… he throws a headlock and gets the pin.
Hearing the team talk today about getting more bonus this year… I thought of that match from Evans. How many first year guys in their first action stall out a 7-2 lead in the third in the semis? I think almost all of them.
Same from Facundo and others. The men were after bonus yesterday. It was really a strong showing.
Hearing the team talk today about getting more bonus this year… I thought of that match from Evans. How many first year guys in their first action stall out a 7-2 lead in the third in the semis? I think almost all of them.
Same from Facundo and others. The men were after bonus yesterday. It was really a strong showing.
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