COHEN REACHES SWEET 16!!!!
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Kind of like Stans hasn't beaten a Top 10 team in the tourney and NEVER will either...
We failed to beat a non-Top 10 team in 4 out of Stans 6 tourney trips...
Your point is irrelevant and you are obviously trying to take up for your buddy, Stans...
Cohen > Stans ??
02 MSU was a #3 seed and lost to #6 Texas
03 MSU was a #5 seed and lost to #12 Butler
04 MSU was a #2 seed and lost to #7 Xaiver
05 MSU was a #9 seed and lost to #1 Duke
08 MSU was a #8 seed and lost to #1 Memphis
09 MSU was a #13 seed and lost to #4 Washington
We failed to beat a non-Top 10 team in 4 out of Stans 6 tourney trips...
Your point is irrelevant and you are obviously trying to take up for your buddy, Stans...
Cohen > Stans ??
02 MSU was a #3 seed and lost to #6 Texas
03 MSU was a #5 seed and lost to #12 Butler
04 MSU was a #2 seed and lost to #7 Xaiver
05 MSU was a #9 seed and lost to #1 Duke
08 MSU was a #8 seed and lost to #1 Memphis
09 MSU was a #13 seed and lost to #4 Washington
there's no winning on this point today. None. Time to give it a rest.
I'm a huge Stans fan. But the simple fact is that Stans, his wife and his children are hated on this board. I wish it weren't the case, but it is. It's simply the latest fad on here. Just like the old fad of everyone loving Croom and hating Sherrill. Wasn't a big fan of that one either.
And let's be honest here. Stans isn't doing his fans any favors. He's accomplished a good bit while at State, better than most anybody would have in my opinion, but even having said that, he's failed repeatedly to get us to the next level. Even if that failure is by a basket or two. Twice.
Until Stans can do something to quiet the critics, it's not going to get any better.
I'm a huge Stans fan. But the simple fact is that Stans, his wife and his children are hated on this board. I wish it weren't the case, but it is. It's simply the latest fad on here. Just like the old fad of everyone loving Croom and hating Sherrill. Wasn't a big fan of that one either.
And let's be honest here. Stans isn't doing his fans any favors. He's accomplished a good bit while at State, better than most anybody would have in my opinion, but even having said that, he's failed repeatedly to get us to the next level. Even if that failure is by a basket or two. Twice.
Until Stans can do something to quiet the critics, it's not going to get any better.
I think Stansbury understands it as well but I also am smart enough to know be careful what you wish for, it could be another Croom. All I know is Big Sid has lost 35 lbs this summer working out so I think he got the message and hopefully this team will step up. All the garbage on here by the so-called experts who have never once coached on a collegiate level is comical at best. Players win games and Cohen was being bashed a few weeks ago and now he is a hero. It is the nature of the beast but I still have faith and unlike Coach 34and a few of his trolls, I want MSU to succeed in basketball and I am not sure some of them really do because they would rather act smart than ever admit they were wrong.MadDawg said:
It could be another Crooms, or it could beanother Mullen. Point is- everybody knows what we have in The Recruiter after 13 years, and being decent just isnt good enough anymore.Dawgbreeze said:
You dont have to coach on the collegiate level to recognize coaches that can get it done and the ones that cant. You telling me because Scott Stricklin and Keenum havent coached collegiately, theycan't possibly hire a new coach?
Players win games? Sure. Well-coached players win even more games- like the ones that get you into the Sweet 16.
You want State to succeed in basketball? Well no ****, so do we. Thats why we want to get a new basketball coach.We're tired of not succeeding. 1 at-large berth in the last 6 years doesnt cut it.
Dan Mullen- Top 15 ranking and NYD bowl
John Cohen- Sweet 16 Super Regional as an underdog
The Recruiter? A cluster-17 of a season that was nationally embarrassing- called a "dumpster fire" by the national media.
We see who is successful and who isnt.
All I know is Big Sid has lost 35 lbs this summer working out so I think he got the message and hopefully this team will step up... he had a year to get in shape two years ago... you think a coach in control of his program would "start" a player that has done nothing to deserve it
we all knew frazier was better than frost, but cohen made frazier step up before benching frost
we all knew relf had more talent than lee, but mullen made relf mature to work to become a leader
...all most of us are saying is we are letting stansbury kill this program to the levels of polk and croom, because he is the all time winning coach ...who gives a **** he has also created a "dumpster fire" in 3 years!!
i agree stansbury has done great thing in the past, but this athletics programs is wanting us to buy-in now!!
we all knew frazier was better than frost, but cohen made frazier step up before benching frost
we all knew relf had more talent than lee, but mullen made relf mature to work to become a leader
...all most of us are saying is we are letting stansbury kill this program to the levels of polk and croom, because he is the all time winning coach ...who gives a **** he has also created a "dumpster fire" in 3 years!!
i agree stansbury has done great thing in the past, but this athletics programs is wanting us to buy-in now!!
Coach is always good for a 3-5 page thread. Bulldog Blitz and their 1990 style message board sure could use your talents!
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I haven't supported Stansbury in about five years. I never once believed Croom deserved to coach our team. Cohen knows what the hell he's doing. Stansubry is a f******* idiot and has no idea what the hell he's doing. It's that simple. If Stansbury makes the sweet 16, he will be our coach again next year but he'll still be a f****** joke and there's no getting around it. Stansbury supporters are like the mom's in the stands at a pee wee game that are happy because their kid stayed on his feet for a whole play. Anything positive turns into praise. Meanwhile, the kid is still a disgrace of a football player.
you may not hate them, but I'm not so sure about everyone. It seems very few people who are unhappy with Stans limit their criticism to just his coaching. I wasn't too keen on Cohen at times the past two years. Still think he makes some pretty bone-headed decisions. But I would never in a million years take pot-shots at his wife or kids. Even if he brought them to the game and let them sit in the dugout. I realize it's just kind of the nature of the board to be a little "over-the-top" when criticizing. I just wish it wasn't pushed so far sometimes. I sometimes wonder if people would be allowed to talk about anybody else like they do Stans. I could see a thread where someone takes shots at Houston Nutt's wife and kids being locked up.
No they won't. In case you havent noticed not every team in the sweet sixteen has to go through a top ten team to get there. That is kind of impossible
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