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Start a free womens healthcare clinic in Mississippi?
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I'll Provide Free Birth Control. Because access to long acting reversible birth control to teens and young women is good for a wide range of things. And it is proven to reduce the States' tax burden and increase tax revenues.
And I'll doi free health checkups. Because as L4 said, outcomes in the US are really good if we detect it in time.
Maybe I'll call it the Jackson Women's Health Organization...
The State shut that down.
Apparently providing full service healthcare for women is Mississippi (and Texas, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Oklahoma) is frowned upon...
What I told my kids, and anyone going to college is this:
If you like a subject, go talk to the professor. Tell them you like it and what you like. Ask for advice on how to make that a career. Professors have industry contacts. They know what are possibilities. Most of the time the feedback I've gotten is "Wow, I didn't know I could get paid to do that".
I feel confident in saying I would despise spending time with your self righteous, know everything ***.
Let me guess. You are under 35.
Reminds me of my chem E roommate years ago. I do not miss him.
Or better yet, iron out 80% of that decision in high school. Then, you get to college (whichever one is shaped by that 80% decision), your main job is to pass, refine the other 20%, and make relationships.
Just like I said about college not being a social phase of life.....neither is high school.
Not interested in a big argument with you over this but go back and slowly read exactly what YOU wrote. Peace to all.
Nah, not at the state level for state universities. They've literally cut funding. The federal government has no problem taxing for education. But the people don't appear to want that. This state and country do not prioritize education or healthcare.
College and High School are extremely social phases of life. They are crucial to social development. If you aren't social in these phases you'll never be social.
We definitely prioritize the money in pockets (digits in accounts) that come from education and healthcare. We just don't prioritize really good education and healthcare.
Healthcare should focus on those with, statistically, a lot of potential life left. Not those who have finished the race we all run.
Education should focus on teaching. The way a vast amount of money is spent these days has little to do with putting knowledge into heads.
^this. Everyone is different. I know I am a better person for the experiences that distracted me from my studies in college. Adversity builds character, etc.
Also, I know some not-the-college-types that did as he proposes, came straight out of high into developing trade skills.....and the money in the pocket of idiot 18yos led to drugs and bad women and ruined their lives. For many, there's value in the college path of staging out the emergence into adulthood.
College is not a rite of passage. That's the point. The social part isn't a requirement and certainly is not the focus for MOST students. Of course, if you're a rich kid and just coming to make connections, sure, go right ahead.
@Boom Boom I don't know what you mean by "did as he proposes", I didn't give details in the manner you're talking about. You're talking about some other poster. I am not sitting here looking at this in black and white terms, as in someone must go to college or shouldn't go to college. You are, though, by saying college is a required social element of life.
This conversation is actually much deeper. I hear people talk about social norms? WTF are those anyway, what you learn in school? It's a load of crap. I don't want to be a conformed idiot. I say that, but remember, I'm not talking about being anti-social or dysfunctional.
How in the hell do either of you draw that conclusion?
I graduated in the top 8% of my class from what is now a 6A public high school in MS, although it only went up to 5A then. I ended up qualifying for enough scholarships and aid to cover maybe 5-10% of total cost of attendance at MSU. It damn sure wasn’t free, or anything close to it.
And oh yeah, got an engineering degree and graduated with a 3.5 GPA from State. Guess I didn’t really belong there, though.
The median age of breast cancer diagnosis is 62. You're really just a host of grievances with poor reading comprehension skills. I suspect you'll be right about some things but you've given me no reason to believe you. Maybe less histrionics and melodrama. I know. I just want 30-year old women to die of breast cancer and ectopic pregnancies in Aberdeen. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/breast-cancer/about/how-common-is-breast-cancer.html
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Spread the word about this. Tell women to maybe ditch the humanities and social sciences. Maybe become plumbers and electricians too. Get those guidance counselors on it. I really don't believe that low starting salary. Even K-12 education, a feminized employment field, pays more than that.
- 66% of all student loan debt belongs to women.
- The average student debt for women in the U.S. is $31,726.
- Women can expect an average annual salary of $35,338 following college graduation, which is 81% of what men can expect to earn following graduation.
- : https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-by-gender
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That’s because they are Christians as a 5th or 6th priority item, if that.
Most folks seem to prioritize their family self-identity, money-making self-identity (career, military, etc), and their political self identity as the top 3 priorities. Order certainly varies, but nothing else really seems to come close to these.
Then comes their extracurricular self-identity. Their hobbies, favorite college sports teams, what they do on the weekends, whatever updates they want to do on their house, and so forth.
Then it’s religion / spirituality way below all that other stuff. People will always say publicly “God then family then country”, “Christian first and foremost”, etc. even though they know it’s BS. It’s always great when the religion / spirituality lines up with all that other stuff. Especially the Top 3. But in the event that there’s a conflict, everyone knows that it’s going to be self-interest above all.
The world would be a far better place if all those people weren’t so full of śhit, regardless of whether they truly practiced what they preached or just became totally agnostic in order to resolve that conflict.
But they still give out Pell Grants and low interest loans. That makes up for a TON of cuts in direct support, and then some. The country spends a HUGE amount of money on healthcare. Medicare, Medicaid... come on man.
Can we talk about the reason why? Anybody ever wonder why the majority of marketing is aimed at women?
Holler at me when you get that 10K. oh waitGood place to note:
Democrats introduce bill to eliminate student loan interest for current borrowers
Congressional Democrats on Thursday introduced legislation that would immediately cut interest rates to 0 percent for all 44 million student loan borrowers in the U.S. While the Student Loan …thehill.com
Haha, funny that you edited this.
Your deleted comment is what I was going to respond to.
And to be clear, it didn't seem like a bad comment to make.
I didn't realize the majority of college marketing is directed at females. That's honestly not something I have ever even thought about- the % of marketing directed at males and females.
If the majority of marketing is directed at females, it would be interesting to understand why.
Marketing is directed at women because more women go to college than men. It's no longer the 1950s. Women earn most college degrees. But, women earn 80% of the degrees in grievance studies fields (Gender Studies, Sociology, African American studies, ***** and Cultural studies fields). They'd likely make more as UPS drivers and would be better educated about reality after a couple of years if they ditched those fields). Did women in academia cause wokeness? - by Noah Carl (noahsnewsletter.com)
Incorrect. But you're getting closer.
You said earlier that they still don't make as much as men. Why isn't the marketing aimed at men? If men have more money, doesn't it make sense to go after that bigger pot?
Another nugget of evidence is that women are earning these degrees that do not pay off, like you said. Why? Why are they deciding to do this?
I just read this recently. Plus, student loan repayments are supposed to start back in October:
The number of people who made a hardship withdrawal during the second quarter surged from the first three months of the year to 15,950, an increase of 36% from the second quarter of 2022, according to Bank of America’s analysis of clients’ employee benefits programs, which are comprised of more than 4 million plan participants.
It’s a “pretty troubling” development if more people are resorting to making hardship withdrawals, Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree, told CNN.
“You understand why people do that in the heat of the moment, but the opportunity costs on that are really, really high over time,” he said.
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The number of people who made a hardship withdrawal during the second quarter surged from the first three months of the year to 15,950, an increase of 36% from the second quarter of 2022, according to Bank of America’s analysis of clients’ employee benefits programs, which are comprised of more than 4 million plan participants.
It’s a “pretty troubling” development if more people are resorting to making hardship withdrawals, Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree, told CNN.
“You understand why people do that in the heat of the moment, but the opportunity costs on that are really, really high over time,” he said.
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Women have money and ambition to earn college degrees and college officials still think its the 1950s and women are discriminated against in college admissions instead of the reality that women are just out-competing men academically but choosing more self-actualizing majors. Women spent more consumer dollars than men in America. It's hard for regionals to have some STEM programs likely to attract more men because those fields are expensive. The humanities and social sciences are inexpensive and have a great ROI compared to the sciences. More college administrators are women, women dominate recruiting and student life programs on college campuses.
New law in Cali allows community college to offer 4 year degrees. Naturally, 4 year colleges oppose that. Atheletics at small 4-year colleges are incredibly expensive and require annual transfers from the general fund. Students at regionals aren't there for athletics but end up paying a lot for sports few people support.
https://calmatters.org/education/higher-education/2023/08/bachelors-degrees/
https://calmatters.org/education/higher-education/2023/08/bachelors-degrees/
You got the correct answer in there. Women spend more (much more) than men. But why?
But, the rest of your post makes no sense. You say women are most of the college administrators, then you say women are being discriminated against. By……other women? Who is pushing them to easy degrees? Other……women?
Your blanket answer is sexism but you just proved that you don’t even believe that.
I meant that women and others believe they are being discriminated against which leads to favoritism at universities (there are something like 10-1 schollies specifically for women rather than men). Most students like getting an easy degree. Women like self-actualizing degrees and working with people. And while I didn't actually write that, I do think that women influence other women to behave in certain ways. BTW, I didn't say "most" administrators. I said more meaning more than previously. Women are influential (see the Bud Light fiasco and how so few decided on that marketing campaign). Male admins are pretty weak willed and can be easily outmaneuvered by women. An argumentative woman, or one who cries because women's tears win, are hard for such men to deal with and tell no to.
Why do women spend more money than men? Because they can, I suppose. Our administrative state favors those with college degree, a credential.
I gotcha. Guess I misunderstood that a little bit.
And your post pretty much summed up the ‘why’. To go much further will bring out the SPS Squad.
You sound like a very good person with a good heart we really just need more people like you.
Healthcare is complicated with many stakeholders with competing interests and responsibilities. This includes the person we see in the mirror everyday.
It's expensive but if he bought one of the new M chips it should last through college without a problem.
That’s a nice sound bite but blue collar workers are more likely to live with their parents than are social workers (see below photos).
Blue collar workers need more education and training. They can’t just be average in Mississippi.
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We prioritize the **** out of healthcare. We’re just dumb about it. We subsidize health insurance, pour a bunch of government money into it, have some of the highest rates of third party payment in the world.
even the really stupid **** we do like severely restrict supply is because enough voters think it’s about protecting quality of care.
Women don’t spend more than men on the whole. Not even close. But they are the ones that dominate discretionary spending in most single family middle-class households, which is the bread and butter focus group for every damn product there is. With remote work and other social shifts that have been happening, that balance is starting to tip back a little bit towards men more than before, but it’s still women-dominated.
It’s really just the typical household roles that have always been there. To all you hetero married dudes on here, ask yourself who does most of the grocery shopping? Who is the one who normally buys the kids clothes and toiletries when they are needed? School supplies? Thats daily discretionary spending and that’s the type of spending where marketing costs actually generate the biggest rate of return.
Men, meanwhile, tend to still be the big decision makers for home purchases, vehicles, insurance policies for both, new expensive toys like boats and riding lawnmowers and big screen TV’s, etc. So they are spending more on the whole. But not on the day to day commodities which are heavily targeted by marketing investment strategies.
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Maybe women should be the big decision makers when it comes to these purchases too when considering the Ford Lightning thread…
Me, me and me. I married a woman who makes more and works longer hours. I was the head butt wiper too. Meanwhile, we built a house, a nice one, that she wanted and in a neighborhood she preferred with maybe the highest price per square foot where we live (I enjoy living here, though). She bought her own car, it wasn't cheap, and decided what cars the girls should get. I bought my own which cost less than the cars driven by any female in my household. She also insisted that the girls attend private school (I'm public school trash). She was right to do so. She's not my boss and she's not bossy to me. It's an arrangement that works best. The girls shop for themselves now often with my credit card. "Not even close" is a stretch. There are studies showing that men spend more and women spend more than men. The numbers aren't far off. What's "not even close" is that women spend more time shopping and make most consumer purchases, sometimes it's not for them. But, this isn't the 1950s. Women are independent and they make their own decisions. They aren't victims of the patriarchy or some other abstraction.
All of this clearly indicates to any reasonable person that I'm a mysoginist who loves Andrew Tate.***
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