Conference Record

Nickerous

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I was bored this morning so crunched some numbers.

Woods 5-11 31.25
Scott 13-26-1 32.50
Holtz 19-29 39.583
Spurrier. 44-40 52.381
Elliott 1-3 25.00
Muschamp 17-25 40.476
Beamer 10-14 41.667

After year 3
Scott 10-13-1 41.667
Holtz 10-14 41.667
Spurrier 11-13 45.833
Muschamp 12-12 50.00

Year 4 record
Spurrier was 4-4, everyone else 3-5
 

18IsTheMan

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Hasn't made much difference who our coach was.

Spurrier through 3 years was 11-13 in conference play. Beamer is 10-14.

This is why I've argued we should just give Beamer 10 years and see what happens. We've got nothing to lose. Most likely we'll end up being who we always have been, regardless of coach. Maybe we get lucky and something clicks for Beamer down the road. What might take 4 or 5 years somewhere else could realistically take a decade here.

If we fire Beamer after Year 5 if he underperforms, the most likely scenario is that his replacement will perform about our historical mean.

The 10 year plan is radical, I know, but we've been playing football for 130+ years and here sit about where we always have been.

I think we will ALWAYS regress to our mean, no matter what. We've had a few blips of success...1984, the 9 win seasons under Holtz, 2011-2013, Mushcamp's and Beamer's 9 win seasons...but we always regress back to our mean. We've also had times of total failure...1991, the back-to-back 1-21 seasons, 2015, 2020...but we've always regressed back to our mean.

We've actually had more good-to-really good years than we've had completely awful years. It's just that we've had far and away more simply mediocre seasons.

I can just about guarantee if we gave Beamer a solid 10 years, we'd have the same usual ups and downs we always do and end up back where we always end up.
 
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PrestonyteParrot

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Hasn't made much difference who our coach was.

Spurrier through 3 years was 11-13 in conference play. Beamer is 10-14.

This is why I've argued we should just give Beamer 10 years and see what happens. We've got nothing to lose. Most likely we'll end up being who we always have been, regardless of coach. Maybe we get lucky and something clicks for Beamer down the road. What might take 4 or 5 years somewhere else could realistically take a decade here.

If we fire Beamer after Year 5 if he underperforms, the most likely scenario is that his replacement will perform about our historical mean.
Hence the argument for trying something different instead of the 5-year rotating coaches plan we are known for following.
 
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18IsTheMan

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As much as I hate to say it, I'm honestly not looking forward to this season . . . AGAIN!
I'm always hopefully optimistic...what if??? Last season that optimism was destroyed beyond recognition when the UNC DL beat 2 double teams on the same play to sack Rattler. Once you see a game like that, you know the season is toast, which is kind of deflating, to say the least. You wait 9 months for college football to come back only to find out midway into Game 1 that your season is stillborn (as @KingWard put it).
 
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rockingamecock

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I'm always hopefully optimistic...what if??? Last season that optimism was destroyed beyond recognition when the UNC DL beat 2 double teams on the same play to sack Rattler. Once you see a game like that, you know the season is toast, which is kind of deflating, to say the least. You wait 9 months for college football to come back only to find out midway into Game 1 that your season is stillborn (as @KingWard put it).
We've seen it too many times to think any different. It's a shame.
 
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