Cristil Society - Additional Bulldog Club Giving

[vhdawg]

This popped up on my social media today. Haven't seen it discussed here yet. You can learn more here:

The Cristil Society - The Cristil Society

The Cristil Society for Mississippi State University Bulldog The Cristil Society

msubulldogclub.com

1) Glad to see our Athletic Director being in front of the curve on giving.
2) Obviously targeted towards "high-level" donors.
3) Curious if this has anything to do with the new "requirement" to share TV revenues with athletes (can't call them student-athletes any more).

Thoughts?

This is just Cristilmethod's new newsletter signup drive, isn't it?

 

[WilCoDawg]

We have the smallest living alumni group in the conference and we're in MS. It's numbers game we can't win. Percentage wise, our giving is on par. Money-wise, it's simply not possible to do what the big boys are doing. Just have to do the best we can.

How do we have the smallest alumni group when we’re larger than OM and Vandy?

 

[Bulldawg77]

I do give him credit for having some fundraising initiative. But his priorities are in the wrong place. He’s still doing very little to encourage NIL donations.

Do you and Goat just get together and make BS up? Selmon and the entire AD does work with the BI. Also we have an entire staff dedicated to helping us with NIL in the current legal environment within NCAA rules. This staff is also set up for when Rev sharing starts and when schools fund raising arm can donate money for the true NIL. That’s staff includes Terry Prentice who came from AR, Brandon Lee from Mizz, Maya Bulger, Jalen Washington and recently Emma’s Perkins has joined and she came from the Bulldog Initiative. All these people were hired by Selmon . You guys just thrive on BS.

 

[The Peeper]

Do you and Goat just get together and make BS up? Selman and the entire AD does work with the BI. Also we have an entire staff dedicated to helping us with NIL in the current legal environment within NCAA rules. This staff is also set up for when Rev sharing starts and when schools fund raising arm can donate money for the true NIL. That’s staff includes Terry Prentice who came from AR, Brandon Lee from Mizz, Maya Bulger, Jalen Washington and recently Emma’s Perkins has joined and she came from the Bulldog Initiative. All these people were hired by Selman. You guys just thrive on BS.

For somebody that knows the whole staff, one would think you would know how to spell the head guy in charges name. It's SELMON.

This staff change from what I was told came about largely because the old regime simply couldn't get along w/ the new. It started with Mike Richey back in February and has continued. There's always turnover w/ new management but some of the stories are pretty telling.

 

[Bulldawg77]

For somebody that knows the whole staff, one would think you would know how to spell the head guy in charges name. It's SELMON.

This staff change from what I was told came about largely because the old regime simply couldn't get along w/ the new. It started with Mike Richey back in February and has continued. There's always turnover w/ new management but some of the stories are pretty telling.

Ha yes I did have to edit. Still early
These staff additions that I referred to were a whole new department created by Selmon headed up by Terry Prentice specifically for NIL/Rev sharing. These position and this arm of the AD didn’t exists before

 

[peewee.sixpack]

Just have to do what has been successful in the past. Identify the overlooked kids. They give you a hometown discount on NIL when they develop.

I agree but the problem here is once they have developed they can jump ship with no wait time.

 

[travis.sixpack]

What I think of when I hear "Cristil Society":

 

[Maroon13]

I think this a great idea. The name is clever.

People that give a lot of money deserve special treatment. I'm not sure what all this idea will entail but good idea to encourage people to give.

As far as NIL v BC contributions, I still think it's a good idea to motivate people (who may not give to NIL) to give more ($25k and up...) our facilities need it.

 

[Seinfeld]

Does anyone know how the 22 million works? Is it all athletes in the university receiving some amount of money or only allocated to certain sports and equal or unequal amounts to different sports or players within the sports? I don't see how any of this works out.

I’m only basing this off of what I remember reading a couple months ago, but from what I recall, there are virtually no rules surrounding how the $22M gets doled out. If a school wants to split it amongst all athletes, they can. If another school wants to give it all to football, they can.

In other words, there is absolutely no possible way that this will turn into a complete $hitshow, right?

 

[patdog]

I’m only basing this off of what I remember reading a couple months ago, but from what I recall, there are virtually no rules surrounding how the $22M gets doled out. If a school wants to split it amongst all athletes, they can. If another school wants to give it all to football, they can.

In other words, there is absolutely no possible way that this will turn into a complete $hitshow, right?

That's pretty much it. SEC has said its schools will be distributing to each sport based on revenue generated. Which is about what I think most schools will do unless they want to move to Division II in football.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

How do we have the smallest alumni group when we’re larger than OM and Vandy?

I'd compare to the big boys (I know exactly not his post). OM and Vandy are in the same boat as us.
Just think about this too. We only have like 8600 BC members. The numbers don't work out vs the big programs in our conference. Then compare the educational programs we don't have that others do. Less money with no law school especially and limited medical. Engineers are stingy with money, we know that ! This new deal lets the rich folk brag a bit and flex even more & we know those guys will. Got to keep up that status.

 

[TimberBeast]

I’m only basing this off of what I remember reading a couple months ago, but from what I recall, there are virtually no rules surrounding how the $22M gets doled out. If a school wants to split it amongst all athletes, they can. If another school wants to give it all to football, they can.

In other words, there is absolutely no possible way that this will turn into a complete $hitshow, right?

It's amazing to me that we have title 9 and something like this is allowed to go through this way. I get the higher revenue sports part but I don't see how this would pass if lawsuits were brought about. I don't know much about the rule but I can't believe it won't be challenged and don't see how it would hold up if so.

 

[patdog]

Do you and Goat just get together and make BS up? Selmon and the entire AD does work with the BI. Also we have an entire staff dedicated to helping us with NIL in the current legal environment within NCAA rules. This staff is also set up for when Rev sharing starts and when schools fund raising arm can donate money for the true NIL. That’s staff includes Terry Prentice who came from AR, Brandon Lee from Mizz, Maya Bulger, Jalen Washington and recently Emma’s Perkins has joined and she came from the Bulldog Initiative. All these people were hired by Selmon . You guys just thrive on BS.

Do these people do anything? Just saw a list of NIL collectives. We're still woefully behind.

SEC Conference Schools 2023-24:​

School	2023 Conf	2024 Conf	Collective Funding *	Total Support	Ticket Sales	Contributions
Alabama	SEC	SEC	$ 15,995,406	97,324,316	44,211,016	53,113,300
Arkansas	SEC	SEC	$ 11,544,039	70,239,900	48,073,959	22,165,941
Auburn	SEC	SEC	$ 11,588,953	70,513,179	34,140,396	36,372,783
Florida	SEC	SEC	$ 15,802,237	96,148,974	34,784,702	61,364,272
Georgia	SEC	SEC	$ 18,326,566	111,508,298	37,192,353	74,315,945
Kentucky	SEC	SEC	$ 11,254,204	68,476,390	40,538,111	27,938,279
Louisiana State	SEC	SEC	$ 20,137,141	122,524,769	46,594,942	75,929,827
Mississippi	SEC	SEC	$ 8,872,378	53,984,130	19,574,652	34,409,478
Mississippi State	SEC	SEC	$ 6,467,166	39,349,578	16,737,350	22,612,228
Missouri	SEC	SEC	$ 7,146,859	43,485,183	13,929,479	29,555,704
South Carolina	SEC	SEC	$ 9,554,700	58,135,731	24,301,862	33,833,869
Tennessee	SEC	SEC	$ 11,602,164	70,593,563	35,110,289	35,483,274
Texas A & M	SEC	SEC	$ 17,228,714	104,828,397	50,624,287	54,204,110
Vanderbilt	SEC	SEC	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
Oklahoma	Big 12	SEC	$ 14,817,595	90,157,905	46,977,771	43,180,134
Texas	Big 12	SEC	$ 22,272,474	135,517,239	57,543,166	77,974,073

 

[Seinfeld]

It's amazing to me that we have title 9 and something like this is allowed to go through this way. I get the higher revenue sports part but I don't see how this would pass if lawsuits were brought about. I don't know much about the rule but I can't believe it won't be challenged and don't see how it would hold up if so.

Right, and I think what you said about lawsuits is the key. How this money should be split up can always be debated. What isn’t debatable, however, is the fact that all this WILL end up in court

Oh joy

 

[patdog]

Right, and I think what you said about lawsuits is the key. How this money should be split up can always be debated. What isn’t debatable, however, is the fact that all this WILL end up in court

Oh joy

Yep. Divide it equally and the football players will sue you. Give football the bigger share, and all the minor sports will sue you. Ain't no way lawyers see this much money floating around without getting their share.

 

[8dog]

I agree but the problem here is once they have developed they can jump ship with no wait time.

That’s my point though. It’s much cheaper to keep them. So we don’t necessarily have to always have the money others have.

 

[8dog]

Do these people do anything? Just saw a list of NIL collectives. We're still woefully behind.

SEC Conference Schools 2023-24:​

School	2023 Conf	2024 Conf	Collective Funding *	Total Support	Ticket Sales	Contributions
Alabama	SEC	SEC	$ 15,995,406	97,324,316	44,211,016	53,113,300
Arkansas	SEC	SEC	$ 11,544,039	70,239,900	48,073,959	22,165,941
Auburn	SEC	SEC	$ 11,588,953	70,513,179	34,140,396	36,372,783
Florida	SEC	SEC	$ 15,802,237	96,148,974	34,784,702	61,364,272
Georgia	SEC	SEC	$ 18,326,566	111,508,298	37,192,353	74,315,945
Kentucky	SEC	SEC	$ 11,254,204	68,476,390	40,538,111	27,938,279
Louisiana State	SEC	SEC	$ 20,137,141	122,524,769	46,594,942	75,929,827
Mississippi	SEC	SEC	$ 8,872,378	53,984,130	19,574,652	34,409,478
Mississippi State	SEC	SEC	$ 6,467,166	39,349,578	16,737,350	22,612,228
Missouri	SEC	SEC	$ 7,146,859	43,485,183	13,929,479	29,555,704
South Carolina	SEC	SEC	$ 9,554,700	58,135,731	24,301,862	33,833,869
Tennessee	SEC	SEC	$ 11,602,164	70,593,563	35,110,289	35,483,274
Texas A & M	SEC	SEC	$ 17,228,714	104,828,397	50,624,287	54,204,110
Vanderbilt	SEC	SEC	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
Oklahoma	Big 12	SEC	$ 14,817,595	90,157,905	46,977,771	43,180,134
Texas	Big 12	SEC	$ 22,272,474	135,517,239	57,543,166	77,974,073

There is no way anyone knows these collective numbers. It’s not public. Looks like they just took a percentage of giving and ticket sales which is dumb.

 

[gtowndawg]

There is no way anyone knows these collective numbers. It’s not public. Looks like they just took a percentage of giving and ticket sales which is dumb.

Exactly. I've been in the NIL for quite a while now and I have absolutely no idea how much money they have or what they do with it. I certainly don't think it's just publicly available to go look up.

 

[The Peeper]

I've been in the NIL for quite a while now and I have absolutely no idea how much money they have or what they do with it

How many other "investments" do you have like this?

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Do these people do anything? Just saw a list of NIL collectives. We're still woefully behind.

SEC Conference Schools 2023-24:​

School	2023 Conf	2024 Conf	Collective Funding *	Total Support	Ticket Sales	Contributions
Alabama	SEC	SEC	$ 15,995,406	97,324,316	44,211,016	53,113,300
Arkansas	SEC	SEC	$ 11,544,039	70,239,900	48,073,959	22,165,941
Auburn	SEC	SEC	$ 11,588,953	70,513,179	34,140,396	36,372,783
Florida	SEC	SEC	$ 15,802,237	96,148,974	34,784,702	61,364,272
Georgia	SEC	SEC	$ 18,326,566	111,508,298	37,192,353	74,315,945
Kentucky	SEC	SEC	$ 11,254,204	68,476,390	40,538,111	27,938,279
Louisiana State	SEC	SEC	$ 20,137,141	122,524,769	46,594,942	75,929,827
Mississippi	SEC	SEC	$ 8,872,378	53,984,130	19,574,652	34,409,478
Mississippi State	SEC	SEC	$ 6,467,166	39,349,578	16,737,350	22,612,228
Missouri	SEC	SEC	$ 7,146,859	43,485,183	13,929,479	29,555,704
South Carolina	SEC	SEC	$ 9,554,700	58,135,731	24,301,862	33,833,869
Tennessee	SEC	SEC	$ 11,602,164	70,593,563	35,110,289	35,483,274
Texas A & M	SEC	SEC	$ 17,228,714	104,828,397	50,624,287	54,204,110
Vanderbilt	SEC	SEC	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
Oklahoma	Big 12	SEC	$ 14,817,595	90,157,905	46,977,771	43,180,134
Texas	Big 12	SEC	$ 22,272,474	135,517,239	57,543,166	77,974,073

Nobody has a clue what NIL collective amounts are

 

[patdog]

Nobody has a clue what NIL collective amounts are

Based on HS & portal recruiting rankings, our number in relation to the rest of the conference isn’t much wrong.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Do these people do anything? Just saw a list of NIL collectives. We're still woefully behind.

SEC Conference Schools 2023-24:​

School	2023 Conf	2024 Conf	Collective Funding *	Total Support	Ticket Sales	Contributions
Alabama	SEC	SEC	$ 15,995,406	97,324,316	44,211,016	53,113,300
Arkansas	SEC	SEC	$ 11,544,039	70,239,900	48,073,959	22,165,941
Auburn	SEC	SEC	$ 11,588,953	70,513,179	34,140,396	36,372,783
Florida	SEC	SEC	$ 15,802,237	96,148,974	34,784,702	61,364,272
Georgia	SEC	SEC	$ 18,326,566	111,508,298	37,192,353	74,315,945
Kentucky	SEC	SEC	$ 11,254,204	68,476,390	40,538,111	27,938,279
Louisiana State	SEC	SEC	$ 20,137,141	122,524,769	46,594,942	75,929,827
Mississippi	SEC	SEC	$ 8,872,378	53,984,130	19,574,652	34,409,478
Mississippi State	SEC	SEC	$ 6,467,166	39,349,578	16,737,350	22,612,228
Missouri	SEC	SEC	$ 7,146,859	43,485,183	13,929,479	29,555,704
South Carolina	SEC	SEC	$ 9,554,700	58,135,731	24,301,862	33,833,869
Tennessee	SEC	SEC	$ 11,602,164	70,593,563	35,110,289	35,483,274
Texas A & M	SEC	SEC	$ 17,228,714	104,828,397	50,624,287	54,204,110
Vanderbilt	SEC	SEC	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
Oklahoma	Big 12	SEC	$ 14,817,595	90,157,905	46,977,771	43,180,134
Texas	Big 12	SEC	$ 22,272,474	135,517,239	57,543,166	77,974,073

You just lifted off a damn website that has zero sources evidence of NIL…. The website was complied by a CPA from Washington…. He says on his site…
To present the data on estimated funding available from NIL Collectives we rely on data from multiple sources as well as certain assumptions regarding the data. Unlike public Universities, virtually all NIL Collectives are privately controlled and have no obligation to publicly report information such as their annual fundraising or how funds are spent. Additionally, most NIL collectives are very protective of their funding.

Again you just love pulling in BS. And this proves it
Here’s the link for anyone else interested https://nil-ncaa.com/methodology/

 

[Bulldawg77]

Based on HS & portal recruiting rankings, our number in relation to the rest of the conference isn’t much wrong.

Portal is all you seem to care about when in actuality we did pretty good for year one. There more to it than just here’s 100Gs be my LG. There is still recruiting and there is still fit. Sometime kids jump in the portal cause they weren’t fitting in at there other schools, maybe there are some issues. This ain’t Amazon you still have to pick and move with the right person. This just goes back to your assumption that we don’t have money and the assumption that Selman isn’t working.
None of what you posted is truth or factual yet you pass it off as that