Dabo in denial

[Prestonyte]

Dabo Swinney is getting obliterated on social media on Wednesday for his "concerning" quote on the future of Clemson's 2023 season.

Clemson was trounced by Duke on Monday night. The Tigers had a truly disappointing performance against the Blue Devils to open the season.

But while many are down on the Tigers moving forward, Swinney is not.

"If we do what we did offensively for the rest of the year, we won’t lose another game. It’s just that simple.”
Yikes.

"Hoo boy. Dabo, the rest of the ACC would love for you to do what you did Monday night for the rest of the year," one fan wrote.

"PLEASE do what you did offensively for the rest of the year, Dabo. PLEASE do that. exactly that. and only that," one fan added.

"Someone check on this man, for real," another fan wrote.

"This is an incredibly concerning quote," one fan added.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/07/cfb-world-baffled-dabo-swinney-comments-clemson-offense

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, he’s partly right. Prior to the game against Duke, they were 150-0 all-time (or close to that number of wins) when amassing 200+ yards passing and 200+ yards rushing.

Objectively, if that was our game, and we lost in the manner Clemson did, we would be saying the same thing. Just have to clean up the mistakes.

 

[Prestonyte]

Hope they do it for our game. He did not mention anything about correcting the following:
Turnovers
Special teams mistakes
No open receivers

 

[Statelinecock]

Clemson as an elite program days are numbered. NIL, Portal, and conference affiliation is what it's all about. 2017 may as well have been a hundred years ago. Dabo is now considered a joke across the world of fb and the "All In" no longer sales to recruits but actual money deals do. They don't check the box on anything that gets programs to the elite level in today's world of college fb.

 

[Deleted11512]

Duke looked decent. But let’s not pretend. They’re a middling ACC team. Give them the 2 TDs instead of fumbles and they still lose 28-21. Idiot.

 

[keydet#]

Dabo Swinney is getting obliterated on social media on Wednesday for his "concerning" quote on the future of Clemson's 2023 season.

Clemson was trounced by Duke on Monday night. The Tigers had a truly disappointing performance against the Blue Devils to open the season.

But while many are down on the Tigers moving forward, Swinney is not.

"If we do what we did offensively for the rest of the year, we won’t lose another game. It’s just that simple.”
Yikes.

"Hoo boy. Dabo, the rest of the ACC would love for you to do what you did Monday night for the rest of the year," one fan wrote.

"PLEASE do what you did offensively for the rest of the year, Dabo. PLEASE do that. exactly that. and only that," one fan added.

"Someone check on this man, for real," another fan wrote.

"This is an incredibly concerning quote," one fan added.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/07/cfb-world-baffled-dabo-swinney-comments-clemson-offense

Absolutely amazing - perhaps we should concentrate on getting our own house clean vs. criticizing Clemson. Like Clemson, let's not forget that we are starting out 0-1.

 

[Backyard Archer]

Duke looked decent. But let’s not pretend. They’re a middling ACC team. Give them the 2 TDs instead of fumbles and they still lose 28-21. Idiot.

If we give Clemson two TDs for the fumbles then we have to take one away from the Duke punt return fumble and give Duke 3 for their fumble before halftime when setting up for a FG. So that's 31-14. Dabo's an idiot.

 

[Deleted11512]

Not to worry….they were just out of shape. 🫣

 

[BftCocks09]

Absolutely amazing - perhaps we should concentrate on getting our own house clean vs. criticizing Clemson. Like Clemson, let's not forget that we are starting out 0-1.

No thank you. Reveling in Clemson’s misery will do just fine for now.

 

[Forkcock]

Not to worry….they were just out of shape. 🫣

If I were his coach, he'd be puking his guts up this week.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Clemson as an elite program days are numbered.

Hey, at least they got there. That 6 year stretch from 2015-2020 is better than any 6 years you could choose from our history.

I just find it a bit hard to dance on the grave a coach who individually has accomplished more that we have in our entire program's history.

 

[Deleted11512]

Absolutely amazing - perhaps we should concentrate on getting our own house clean vs. criticizing Clemson. Like Clemson, let's not forget that we are starting out 0-1.

Partner, not a damn thing any of us are going to do about our woes. So concentrating on them doesn’t sound like fun to me. Making fun of Dabo and clemsoning however….

 

[Carolina Doc]

Not to worry….they were just out of shape. 🫣

You can't get yourself into shape in a week, buddy. You must have been loafing for the past three months.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

You can't get yourself into shape in a week, buddy. You must have been loafing for the past three months.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he wasn’t exactly talking about physical shape.

 

[Deleted11512]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he wasn’t exactly talking about physical shape.

He was talking about needing to get in some extra running.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

He was talking about needing to get in some extra running.

Definitely not. But carry on.

 

[rkierstead8]

Definitely not. But carry on.

I'm confused. What else could he be talking about?

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm for anyone who resists the portal.

 

[Deleted11512]

Definitely not. But carry on.

Dude, did you watch it?? He literally said he needed to “get some extra running in and make sure my conditioning is where it needs to be”. His words….out of his mouth. WTF?

Let me guess...your guys over on Tigerillustrated said it was fake news??

 

[Gradstudent]

Dabo is just being Dabo, and it has worked for him for a long time, but all things do eventually come to a end.

His comments do make me smile,

"I’m proud of what I saw on tape' in Clemson's Week 1 loss to Duke"​

"I was very encouraged by what we saw and it’s unfortunate that got overshadowed because we lost the game"

 

[18IsTheMan]

I kind of get where he's coming from. It's typical coach strategy. When the whole world is dumping on your team, the coach has to build them up. When the whole world is praising you, the coach has to keep them humble.

 

[Carolina Doc]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he wasn’t exactly talking about physical shape.

He used the words "get my conditioning where it needs to be to play four quarters". If it isn't physical, what is it? Mental?

 

[Big JC]

Clemson's run was the result of Dabo having two great coordinators, Venables being the most critical piece of the puzzle. Dabo is a self promoting, cheerleading, creepy youth pastor type "look at me" clown and all of college football outside of the Pickens county cult knows it and has known it for a while. Dabo has done all of his promoting from within because he wants to keep control and not risk an outsider coming in and seeing how inept he is.

Clemson will win 9 or 10 games on talent alone every season in the ACC and will win the conference championship most years. Dabo knows he will never be fired if he keeps doing that. The tater fans will live off of the two national championships for the next 40 years if they have to.

 

[Deleted11512]

I kind of get where he's coming from. It's typical coach strategy. When the whole world is dumping on your team, the coach has to build them up. When the whole world is praising you, the coach has to keep them humble.

Then I don't want to see another word about Beamer being too soft in a post game presser.

 

[Deleted11512]

He used the words "get my conditioning where it needs to be to play four quarters". If it isn't physical, what is it? Mental?

Prior to that, he said "i need to get more running in..."

This guy spends A LOT of time defending clemsux....I'm getting an aroma of potato in the air.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Then I don't want to see another word about Beamer being too soft in a post game presser.

Different scenarios.

 

[Deleted11512]

Clemson's run was the result of Dabo having two great coordinators, Venables being the most critical piece of the puzzle. Dabo is a self promoting, cheerleading, creepy youth pastor type "look at me" clown and all of college football outside of the Pickens county cult knows it and has known it for a while. Dabo has done all of his promoting from within because he wants to keep control and not risk an outsider coming in and seeing how inept he is.

Clemson will win 9 or 10 games on talent alone every season in the ACC and will win the conference championship most years. Dabo knows he will never be fired if he keeps doing that. The tater fans will live off of the two national championships for the next 40 years if they have to.

Something is off with him. You don't hear a lot of "best is the standard" talk anymore. Before our game last year he was asked about what he thought about our UT performance. Old Dabo would have talked us up, then said something to the effect of "we play to our standards...we're going to play Clemson football". But, he said something to the effect of "not too worried about it, UT's defense sucks and ours is much better"....as he casually chuckled.

After our game, same story. Beat ourselves, shot ourselves in the foot...yada yada yada. After the UT bowl game...beat ourselves. Now after Duke...beat ourselves. Clem is missing that edge. And it's an edge that he instilled in the team, but he doesn't carry it anymore. On top of defending that pitiful performance, now he's also having to defend his stance on the TP as it related to losing that game.

 

[Deleted11512]

Different scenarios.

One coach loses a game in which they were underdogs to a ranked team...in his 3rd year of trying to rebuild a program. Another loses (by a bigger margin) against a team they were favored to win by 2 TDs...in his 15th year when they're supposed to be playoff contenders. I agree....different scenarios.

 

[Big JC]

Something is off with him. You don't hear a lot of "best is the standard" talk anymore. Before our game last year he was asked about what he thought about our UT performance. Old Dabo would have talked us up, then said something to the effect of "we play to our standards...we're going to play Clemson football". But, he said something to the effect of "not too worried about it, UT's defense sucks and ours is much better"....as he casually chuckled.

After our game, same story. Beat ourselves, shot ourselves in the foot...yada yada yada. After the UT bowl game...beat ourselves. Now after Duke...beat ourselves. Clem is missing that edge. And it's an edge that he instilled in the team, but he doesn't carry it anymore. On top of defending that pitiful performance, now he's also having to defend his stance on the TP as it related to losing that game.

I don't think anything is off with him. He is exactly who he has always been. The issue is; he doesn't have that psycho Venables around to push the "standard" thing. Dabo is all about being "aw shucks" and everybody's friend and a buddy to the players. Dabo has always been a little delicate about criticism, he will not accept that the team wasn't ready to play because that would reflect poorly on him. He has to act like every loss is some sort of anomaly that the stats show shouldn't have happened and Clemson is still the best team in the land.

 

[Deleted11512]

I don't think anything is off with him. He is exactly who he has always been. The issue is; he doesn't have that psycho Venables around to push the "standard" thing. Dabo is all about being "aw shucks" and everybody's friend and a buddy to the players. Dabo has always been a little delicate about criticism, he will not accept that the team wasn't ready to play because that would reflect poorly on him. He has to act like every loss is some sort of anomaly that the stats show shouldn't have happened and Clemson is still the best team in the land.

All good points. The comments last year prior to our game just stood out to me. You can't go in front of the nation media and say "we're not really worried about our next opponent b/c their last opponent sucks, and we're better than them". I'd never heard that kind of stuff from him before.

 

[18IsTheMan]

One coach loses a game in which they were underdogs to a ranked team...in his 3rd year of trying to rebuild a program. Another loses (by a bigger margin) against a team they were favored to win by 2 TDs...in his 15th year when they're supposed to be playoff contenders. I agree....different scenarios.

When the main sound bite that went viral from Beamer's post-game presser was an angry take about the chain crew eating hot dogs, I don't think we're in any position to throw stones.

 

[Big JC]

When the main sound bite that went viral from Beamer's post-game presser was an angry take about the chain crew eating hot dogs, I don't think we're in any position to throw stones.

Especially when he said that was his biggest disappointment from the game. It is still enjoyable seeing Dabo exposed.

 

[Big JC]

All good points. The comments last year prior to our game just stood out to me. You can't go in front of the nation media and say "we're not really worried about our next opponent b/c their last opponent sucks, and we're better than them". I'd never heard that kind of stuff from him before.

I think he is that dangerous combination of arrogant and dumb.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Especially when he said that was his biggest disappointment from the game. It is still enjoyable seeing Dabo exposed.

Right. Our fans would be having an absolute heyday if Dabo had said his biggest disappointment from their loss was the chain gang eating hot dogs.

I'm not unaware that more than one pundit has likened Beamer to Dabo in their relentlessly and overwhelmingly positive approach. It's hard to really come down on Dabo when Beamer is cut from mostly the same cloth.

Personally, I'd love it if Beamer channeled a bit of SOS from the time he coached under him, but that's just not his style. He and Dabo are positive, upbeat, glass half full guys.

 

[Deleted11512]

When the main sound bite that went viral from Beamer's post-game presser was an angry take about the chain crew eating hot dogs, I don't think we're in any position to throw stones.

Or, you could just choose to watch the entire presser and not overreact to headlines. You let a 10 second sound bite cloud your judgement. That's on you.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Or, you could just choose to watch the entire presser and not overreact to headlines. You let a 10 second sound bite cloud your judgement. That's on you.

lol, that's EXACTLY you are doing with Dabo's presser quote: Taking one line out of context and spinning as if he was saying their effort against Duke was good enough to win the rest of their games, when it's not even close to what he was saying. He was speaking specifically of the good things they did offensively in moving the ball. The context of his quote was if they move the ball like they did against Duke, they can generally expect to win. YOU did not listen to his entire presser but overreacted to headlines and let a 10 second sound bit cloud your judgement. That's on YOU.

In the same presser, he also said: "we lost the game but that’s what happens when you don’t do some of the routine things. We had a cadence situation, we had ball handling, we put the ball on the ground a couple times. Three trips inside the five we get nothing. Couple low kicks."

In his post-game presser he was more than forthright about the ways in which they fell short. The entirety of comments basically said "We moved the ball well enough to win but we made too many mistakes." And that is factually correct.

You picked ONE article from online that cites only the single line and does not give any context at all from the rest of the presser and all the other things Dabo said about the things Clemson did not do well. Yet I'm the one with clouded judgement? Okey doke.

 

[Deleted11512]

lol, that's EXACTLY what our fans our doing with Dabo's presser quote: Taking one line out of context and spinning as if he was saying their effort against Duke was good enough to win the rest of their games, when it's not even close to what he was saying. He was speaking specifically of the good things they did offensively in moving the ball. The context of his quote was if they move the ball like they did against Duke, they can generally expect to win. YOU did not listen to his entire presser but overreacted to headlines and let a 10 second sound bit cloud your judgement. That's on YOU.

In the same presser, he also said: "we lost the game but that’s what happens when you don’t do some of the routine things. We had a cadence situation, we had ball handling, we put the ball on the ground a couple times. Three trips inside the five we get nothing. Couple low kicks."

In his post-game presser he was more than forthright about the ways in which they fell short. The entirety of comments basically said "We moved the ball well enough to win but we made too many mistakes." And that is factually correct.

You picked ONE article from online that cites only the single line and does not give any context at all from the rest of the presser and all the other things Dabo said about the things Clemson did not do well. Yet I'm the one with clouded judgement? Okey doke.

I didn't listen to his whole presser, but I did read the transcript. And I still think he's an idiot. Hope that clears it up.

I couldn't imagine the outrage if Beamer had said "if we get the level of play out of Spencer every game we're going to win them all. Just need to clean up some blocking issues and coverage issues on the back end." lol

 

[18IsTheMan]

I didn't listen to his whole presser, but I did read the transcript. And I still think he's an idiot. Hope that clears it up.

I couldn't imagine the outrage if Beamer had said "if we get the level of play out of Spencer every game we're going to win them all. Just need to clean up some blocking issues and coverage issues on the back end." lol

Fact is, Spencer did play well enough for us to win.

And, Dabo was basing his comment in historical fact: Over their entire history, when Clemson has gained 200 yards on the ground and in the air, they were undefeated at 158-0. That's not a small sample size.

You also need to be able to tell when something is hyperbole.

 

[Deleted11512]

Fact is, Spencer did play well enough for us to win.

And, Dabo was basing his comment in historical fact: Over their entire history, when Clemson has gained 200 yards on the ground and in the air, they were undefeated at 158-0. That's not a small sample size.

He did. But that's not the point of my post and you know it.

It also has zero relevance to the 2023 season. Good teams execute. Good teams don't have ridiculous turnovers. Big time players make big time plays in big time games. Clem's issues in those three categories extend beyond Duke. But hey, lets keep making excuses for Dabo's soft presser and lambasting our own for his.

 

[18IsTheMan]

He did. But that's not the point of my post and you know it.

It also has zero relevance to the 2023 season. Good teams execute. Good teams don't have ridiculous turnovers. Big time players make big time plays in big time games. Clem's issues in those three categories extend beyond Duke. But hey, lets keep making excuses for Dabo's soft presser and lambasting our own for his.

My only objection is cherry-picking one quote of context and intentionally misconstruing its meaning.