Not bad for a team picked to finish next to last in the SEC West. Good job players, Coach Leach and staff.
No offense but being ranked 22 isn't world beater status.Pretty amazing considering all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from people on here. You’d think we would have a losing record. If we win our bowl game, this would be a better season than Dan Mullen ever had other than 2014.
The UK loss is all the Leach haters have so they will never let it go. We lost our best RB and O lineman in the first quarter and lost on the road at night. If we had won, these same guys would be talking about LSU. They will never be happy. Can’t imagine how miserable their wives are, if they have one.No offense but being ranked 22 isn't world beater status.
ETA: Laying an egg against Kentucky almost ruined the entire season.
Geez. It puts us in the top 17% of college football teams this year. There are 107 teams that played Division I FBS football that were ranked below us.No offense but being ranked 22 isn't world beater status.
ETA: Laying an egg against Kentucky almost ruined the entire season.
Seriously??? 107 teams we're better than? 75 of them aren't even at our level (power 5). Give me a break. We shouldn't be pissed about this season, but it's not like we had a tremendous season.Geez. It puts us in the top 17% of college football teams this year. There are 107 teams that played Division I FBS football that were ranked below us.
Only 16 teams are playing in bowls that have payouts higher than the bowl that we are playing in. We are 17th in that regard as well.
We kicked them out with The Egg Bowl Victory. They are now relegated "Votes".Where did the s*it birds finish?
Leach haters keep moving the goalposts. They will never be happy with any success we have with him as our coach because they hate the offense so much. If he ran the power spread and finished ranked 22nd with a win over OM in Oxford they’d build him a statue.The UK loss is all the Leach haters have so they will never let it go. We lost our best RB and O lineman in the first quarter and lost on the road at night. If we had won, these same guys would be talking about LSU. They will never be happy. Can’t imagine how miserable their wives are, if they have one.
He could win the natty and they'd complain it wasn't the Super Bowl.Leach haters keep moving the goalposts. They will never be happy with any success we have with him as our coach because they hate the offense so much. If he ran the power spread and finished ranked 22nd with a win over OM in Oxford they’d build him a statue.
Nobody's sayin' it's "World Beater Status". We spent the entire year being unranked then whipped tsun at THEIR place knocking them out and replacing them in the polls. But if you wanna be miserable and continue to dwell about the KY loss, by all means knock yourself out.No offense but being ranked 22 isn't world beater status.
ETA: Laying an egg against Kentucky almost ruined the entire season.
Dude I'm not miserable at all. I'm just not pumping threads and bragging to others about being ranked 22.Nobody's sayin' it's "World Beater Status". We spent the entire year being unranked then whipped tsun at THEIR place knocking them out and replacing them in the polls. But if you wanna be miserable and continue to dwell about the KY loss, by all means knock yourself out.
How often has State been able to compete with the top of the conference? Very rarely.We just wanted a chance to compete with the top teams in the conference and we still aren't able to do that bc we can't move the ball despite thinking Mike Leach would be able to do it because he's re-written the record books everywhere he's been.
Yes he's a good coach, he's just not a great coach and he had he been a HC in the SEC at school not UGA or Bama, he'd probably have us in the same area Dan had us in.
I just hate seeing things like 27 straight passes like we did against Auburn. Even in the Ole Miss game we just kept trying to throw our way out of bad offense and yet it was our running game and usually is our running game that gives us our biggest wins under Leach.
We're not innovative on offense and we're playing the best defenses in the country every week. That's not great coaching.
Yeah and we always gripe about it.How often has State been able to compete with the top of the conference? Very rarely.
Well, in any other time we have done that we usually take the LI shouldn't have to see 27 straight pass attempts though and blow a 3 TD lead at home and be told be happy with what we got.
We have finished the season ranked in a poll just 17 times before this season.Dude I'm not miserable at all. I'm just not pumping threads and bragging to others about being ranked 22.
I was very excited we beat Ole Miss. It was the only time I rang my cowbell in our house all year! Would just be nice to not lose games we shouldn't and then have an offense that allows us to compete with the better teams.
I'm just seeing the forest from the trees. No disrepsect to your opinion.
ETA: spelled rang "range" originally.
I've been a big Leach critic but credit where it's due, 8-4 is a really good season at MSU.Seriously??? 107 teams we're better than? 75 of them aren't even at our level (power 5). Give me a break. We shouldn't be pissed about this season, but it's not like we had a tremendous season.
Our bowl game is solid. Glad we beat Ole Miss or we'd be in the Libery Bowl.
And yet they've been to TWO NY6 bowls. I'd trade the run they just went on for what we did the past few years. Actually didn't they win the Sugar under Freeze? So they've been to 3 NY6 bowls in the last 5-6 years?Saw somewhere that despite all of our normal fan angst over whatever spectacular things Ole Miss is doing in their program, we have finished the season ranked ahead of them 10 of the last 13 years. That's gotta suck for them and their leftover ego from the 60's.
So you're entire basis of dissatisfaction is what Ole Miss has done? Why don't you go cheer for them?And yet they've been to TWO NY6 bowls. I'd trade the run they just went on for what we did the past few years. Actually didn't they win the Sugar under Freeze? So they've been to 3 NY6 bowls in the last 5-6 years?
I shouldn't have to see 27 straight pass attempts though
Yeah I gave this season a B+. Would be A or better had we beaten UK. I don't know what the fuss is about.I've been a big Leach critic but credit where it's due, 8-4 is a really good season at MSU.
That's what you got out of that? Someone compared us to OM and I just made a comparison and said their run has been better and only an idiot would rather not go to 3 NY6 bowls instead of losing the Liberty and Outback bowls. I think we might have beat Wake and NCST in a bowl game over that stretch.So you're entire basis of dissatisfaction is what Ole Miss has done? Why don't you go cheer for them?
This is a misleading and meaningless comparison. Close to half of those teams have no business playing in the top division of college football. A better comparison is we're 22nd out of about 66 P5 (plus Notre Dame & BYU) schools. Still a good season.Geez. It puts us in the top 17% of college football teams this year. There are 107 teams that played Division I FBS football that were ranked below us.
Actually, we should have won both of them. Seriously.The UK loss is all the Leach haters have so they will never let it go. We lost our best RB and O lineman in the first quarter and lost on the road at night. If we had won, these same guys would be talking about LSU. They will never be happy. Can’t imagine how miserable their wives are, if they have one.
I don't qualify my enjoyment of MSU based on what Ole Miss does and I don't want to trade a single thing with them. I want to be as far away from being like them that I can. I will say that if we lose to them in football, it tells me that we we are still not relevant in the SEC West hunt and that is frustrating because they are a perennial also ran.And yet they've been to TWO NY6 bowls. I'd trade the run they just went on for what we did the past few years. Actually didn't they win the Sugar under Freeze? So they've been to 3 NY6 bowls in the last 5-6 years?
SHOULD have? Come on now.Actually, we should have won both of them. Seriously.
We outgained Mississippi offensively. And outgained them by a lot in return yards.SHOULD have? Come on now.
COULD have? Sure. But SHOULD have?...nah.
Claiming we should have won 2 games we lost is the same as claiming we should have lost to OM even though we won. After all, they outgained us, won the turnover battle, and more.
I gave the season a B+. It's like some people just want to focus on what they don't agree with rather than the larger context.
I don't like Leach's offense or his play calling, but I'm not calling for him to be fired or a terrible coach. I just acknowleged we hoped to compete with top of our conference with hiring him and we can't.
I agree with what you said 100%. I just said their run of NY6 bowls has been better than our run of bowl games.I don't qualify my enjoyment of MSU based on what Ole Miss does and I don't want to trade a single thing with them. I want to be as far away from being like them that I can. I will say that if we lose to them in football, it tells me that we we are still not relevant in the SEC West hunt and that is frustrating because they are a perennial also ran.
Because we had a shitastic coaching hire in Joe Moorhead.Last time we finished the regular season ranked was 2017
So yeah. You wish we were Ole Miss.That's what you got out of that? Someone compared us to OM and I just made a comparison and said their run has been better and only an idiot would rather not go to 3 NY6 bowls instead of losing the Liberty and Outback bowls. I think we might have beat Wake and NCST in a bowl game over that stretch.